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Moonlord Ticonderoga
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-06-03 05:54:28 UTC
Has anyone been able to squeeze some utility out of this ship? I'm a lower sp character, newish to pvp and kinda poor. I like the price of the hull and was thinkin' you fellers could help me fit one for small gang pvp, and solo.

This is what I've been playing with thus far:

Medium Pulse Laser II x2 - Scorch

Limited 1MN Microwarp Drive
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor
Cap Recharger II

200mm Rolled Tungsten Plate
Basic Nanofiber Internal structure
Heat Sink II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Hobgoblin II x2
Whisperen
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#2 - 2012-06-03 07:16:43 UTC
[Tormentor, Activepew]

Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Small Armor Repairer II
Small Armor Repairer II

Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Experimental 1MN Afterburner I

Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S
Dual Light Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency S

Small Nanobot Accelerator I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I


Hobgoblin II x2


Ive had a lot of fun roaming around in one of these. Pick your targets and use overheat. It wont always win but it will often get away when things go sour.
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-06-03 08:31:46 UTC
Try:

Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Tracking Enhancer II
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
Tracking Enhancer II

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
J5 Prototype Warp Disruptor I
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[Empty High slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router I
Small Energy Collision Accelerator I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I


Warrior II x2

100dps @15.9+4.1
4.27k ehp
2880m/s

Kite at around 15k.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#4 - 2012-06-03 10:12:04 UTC
The tormentor is a great example showing that the DEVS don't understand combat. It can't do the role they invented for this ship, it's not a logical ship to use in any sort of way. "It works sometimes against idiot targets" is hardly a valid rebuttal.
Whisperen
Resilience.
The Initiative.
#5 - 2012-06-03 15:18:58 UTC
It has a role? I thought it was a t1 ship a mini Armageddon hence the flexibility. Its role is what you make it and its a welcome change to all the cookie cutter specialized ships that are such the rage these days.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#6 - 2012-06-03 15:40:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Tobiaz
The only real advantage of the Tormentor is that it's still only 50k isk to make. Still, without a proper role, it's still money down the drain. I'm not impressed with how CCP Ytterbium's Tiercide going so far.

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Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#7 - 2012-06-03 15:47:47 UTC
Whisperen wrote:
It has a role?.


My point exactly :)

CCP dreamt up some roles for ships based on... no actual eve combat logic and then started rebalancing ships to perform in those imaginary roles. The Tormentor can't even work in the role they made up for it, that's how useless it is. There's no logical fit that makes sense in an actual ingame scenario that makes it a good ship.
Gitanmaxx
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-06-03 16:56:50 UTC
Cheap tackle. Which amarr needed. 3 mid slots unlike the punisher for this. So I'd say it's a very good change and exactly what was needed. You want to fight in a t1 frig get the punisher, you want a disposable tackle fly his. I don't see the issue.
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#9 - 2012-06-03 18:25:57 UTC
Gitanmaxx wrote:
Cheap tackle. Which amarr needed. 3 mid slots unlike the punisher for this. So I'd say it's a very good change and exactly what was needed. You want to fight in a t1 frig get the punisher, you want a disposable tackle fly his. I don't see the issue.


This. And 170+ish DPS on a tech one frigate is nothing to sneeze at either.
George Whitebread
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-06-03 18:53:51 UTC
Whisperen wrote:
It has a role? I thought it was a t1 ship a mini Armageddon hence the flexibility. Its role is what you make it and its a welcome change to all the cookie cutter specialized ships that are such the rage these days.


Funny you should say that, since CCP clearly have stated that their remaking of frigates (and later other ship classes) is to make more specialized ships in order to remove "useless" ships that serves no purpose from this game. So "flexibility" is actually what CCP want to move away from. In that regard, they have failed if what you say is the case (never tried new Tormentor myself).

"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread
Roosterton
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-06-03 18:54:05 UTC
Gitanmaxx wrote:
Cheap tackle. Which amarr needed. 3 mid slots unlike the punisher for this. So I'd say it's a very good change and exactly what was needed. You want to fight in a t1 frig get the punisher, you want a disposable tackle fly his. I don't see the issue.


BLAPHSEMY.

ALL FRIGATES MUST EXCEL AT SOLO PVP.

On a serious note, though, it would be nice of CCP to actually make the tormentor a bit faster if they want it to be used as a tackler. Currently, it's slower than the Punisher. Sad
George Whitebread
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-06-03 19:04:18 UTC
Roosterton wrote:

BLAPHSEMY.


Typo? You mean Blap Sehmy right? link.

"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2012-06-04 08:04:22 UTC
It's the only Amarr laser frig hull with 3 mids in the game. That alone makes it special and useful.
Kaikka Carel
Ziea
#14 - 2012-06-04 08:33:47 UTC
So it's a tackleboat until new executioner kicks in?
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#15 - 2012-06-04 08:52:24 UTC
Kaikka Carel wrote:
So it's a tackleboat until new executioner kicks in?


Execution will still have 2 mids, but i bet they will make it a missile boat or at least a split system.
Vilnius Zar
SDC Multi Ten
#16 - 2012-06-04 08:55:49 UTC
I really don't get CCP. They remove the Amarr mining frigate and then let it all hang in limbo, there's no substitute for Amarr pilots who want to mine till CCP gets its arse in gear (which knowing CCP can take quite a while) and they replaced it with a ship that lacks a real purpose other than "3 slot tackler, even though it's not really that good".
Kaikka Carel
Ziea
#17 - 2012-06-04 09:05:26 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Kaikka Carel wrote:
So it's a tackleboat until new executioner kicks in?


Execution will still have 2 mids, but i bet they will make it a missile boat or at least a split system.


Split system? Why? Where does that info comes from?

2 mids? That's a fail for a tackleboat. Should be 3 and to hell with the flavor, the role demands it, period.
Drew Solaert
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2012-06-04 23:47:44 UTC
PvP yes it is a tad lacking. I was messing around with a Beam and TD kite fit to see how it did.

PvE though its an interesting choice for a newbie, being able to do 1/4 of your damage as explosive on a laser boat should not be sneezed at

I lied :o
The VC's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-06-05 00:37:23 UTC  |  Edited by: The VC's
I've been having some fun with this. Swap the Memory Cell for another Locus if your cap skills are good. The tracking disruptor is your tank/protects your drones for a bit.


[Tormentor, td]

Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
F85 Peripheral Damage System I

Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
Fleeting Warp Disruptor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Tracking Speed Disruption Script

Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S
[Empty High slot]
Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch S

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Energy Locus Coordinator I
Small Semiconductor Memory Cell I


Hobgoblin II x2

111 dps at L5. The Tormentor isn't really gonna chuck out high damage levels and keep a rounded fit but it's steady dps and can wear the target down.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#20 - 2012-06-05 04:40:44 UTC
Oh no. The Tormentor is flexible in its role and fittings! How do the Amarr pilots know how to fit it? That's unheard of!

Imagine what they are going to do to the Prophecy, the Augoror and the Maller! Imagine, an Amarr battlecruiser with HAMs, or HAM/Lasers?!?!

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