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Can we clarify what is a post for general discussion?

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Vanria Vexed
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#101 - 2012-06-04 04:05:14 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:


The mods can only censor the forums and the forums are limited to an already paying population.


Paying your subscription doesn't entitle you to berate/insult employees of CCP, it only entitles you to ability to agree with the EULA and play. You always have the option of not paying CCP and not playing the game if you are so truly offended by their ability to handle their customers. Feel free to fill out the survey they have for you as you cancel your account as to why you are doing so.

**Playing EVE at times feels like putting a 10000 piece puzzle together, enjoying the accomplishment of succedding in completing it, then having some random stranger walk by and flip your table over. **
EVE Roy Mustang
Doomheim
#102 - 2012-06-04 05:18:24 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Once again can we get one example of a topic that would uniformly fall under general discussion?

Or are we at the point of open air admission of bias?


yes one thing you dont do:

Reopening a locked thread by creating a new one is not allowed.

Recreating or reopening a thread that has been closed by a moderator is prohibited. Threads that have been closed by a moderator have been closed for the benefit of the community. Reopening a locked thread will result in its removal.


as we've heard you have done

Post constructively.

Negative feedback can be very useful, provided that it is presented in a civil, factual manner. Tell us what you don't like and why and how you feel it could be improved. Posts that are not constructive, insulting or rude may be deleted, no matter how valid the ideas behind them may be.

Trolling is prohibited.

Trolling is the word used to describe a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting the players. Posts of this nature are disruptive and do not contribute to the sense of community we want for our forums.

Ranting is prohibited

A rant is a long-winded, redundant post, often filled with angry, non-constructive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and helpful in the development of the game, but rants are disruptive and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise, clear manner and avoid going off on rambling tangents.

Its not long winded no, but its a rant

This thread really violates these

and Im too tired to find the one that says you cant discuss moderation but there is one and again, you did it in the OP

also; read here:

http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules

Maybe itll answer your question
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#103 - 2012-06-04 05:31:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
I do not rant or ramble. I try and present an argument as concise as possible. To state otherwise is being intellectually dishonest. None of you are moderators, get a life.

Also you'll note that i'm not banned. You want to know why? Because I haven't violated any rules in spite of the lemmings parroting that fallacy.

And no the forum rules on this page nor the wiki convey what is acceptable topic for general discussion and as such haven't answered my original post.

I am still under the assumption any topic is allowed unless you are able to defend your idea better than the trolls likely to attack you.

As a matter of fact until CCP starts enforcing moderation of personal attacks I don't take the rules seriously at all. Sure they can be used vindicitively to punish a vocal poster but it doesn't make them or CCPs approach any more credible.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#104 - 2012-06-04 05:38:26 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
If by freedom you mean to overtly display bias and prejudice you are correct. But to go on fraudulently proclaiming yourself fair and impartial in all things EVE, you're wrong. The last time the community was treated as a worthless factor the company downsized. Are you sure thats the best course of action?

They are not treating the community as a worthless factor tho.

Just you.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#105 - 2012-06-04 05:40:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
If by freedom you mean to overtly display bias and prejudice you are correct. But to go on fraudulently proclaiming yourself fair and impartial in all things EVE, you're wrong. The last time the community was treated as a worthless factor the company downsized. Are you sure thats the best course of action?

They are not treating the community as a worthless factor tho.

Just you.


And you as well when you decide to discuss a topic they find too disruptive or difficult to answer. You just sit back, drink a soda and buy a monocle from the nex store lemming.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#106 - 2012-06-04 05:43:58 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
If by freedom you mean to overtly display bias and prejudice you are correct. But to go on fraudulently proclaiming yourself fair and impartial in all things EVE, you're wrong. The last time the community was treated as a worthless factor the company downsized. Are you sure thats the best course of action?

They are not treating the community as a worthless factor tho.

Just you.


And you as well when you decide to discuss a topic they find too disruptive or difficult to answer. You just sit back, drink a soda and buy a monocle from the nex store lemming.

Already been moderated more than once, sonny boy. Difference between me and you is I learned to stop doing what pissed them off.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#107 - 2012-06-04 05:45:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Im not disagreeable. If we can get a concise listing of acceptable topics that are equally applied to everyone as well as posting rules applied in the same fashion i'd gladly do so. You can't expect me to guess at it can you?

I have an inclination that if The Mittani decided local had to go he wouldn't have his posts/threads removed/buried.

But alas were getting off topic, a forum violation! The topic is what topics are acceptable for general discussion?

And for the daft i'm looking for clarity by people who enforce the rules not an inconsequential trolls' attempt at stating factually that which has never been factually stated.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#108 - 2012-06-04 05:50:14 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Im not disagreeable. If we can get a concise listing of acceptable topics that are equally applied to everyone as well as posting rules applied in the same fashion i'd gladly do so. You can't expect me to guess at it can you?

I have an inclination that if The Mittani decided local had to go he wouldn't have his posts removed.

But alas were getting off topic, a forum violation! The topic is what topics are acceptable for general discussion.

Your posts were not removed.

This thread was removed.

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#109 - 2012-06-04 06:03:36 UTC
Caliph Muhammed -

Don't bother with these people, all they want to do is harass and enrage you, trying to derail and lock this thread.

I already gave you some ideas on how to get your message out to the public. Need to gain support first, then after a while can bring it back with reinforcements to counter all the anti-posting being done. If you honestly can't refrain and need to reply to this thread, use the 'Report' option.

Anyway, I'm done for today and need a rest, I suggest you do the same.


DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#110 - 2012-06-04 06:21:57 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
No the community does not. Just because you state it doesn't make it so.

This line of argumentation sounds eerily familiar. I wonder where I might've seen this before.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
ISD Eshtir
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#111 - 2012-06-04 06:25:24 UTC
Hi Caliph,

If you want to know why your thread was locked, please file a petition under the community tab and you will have your question answered.

This thread is actualy discussing moderation, which is prohibited as stated in the forum rules and therefor it is now closed.

ISD Eshtir

Captain

Community Communication Liaisons

Interstellar Services Department