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Can we clarify what is a post for general discussion?

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Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#61 - 2012-06-04 02:36:15 UTC
File a petition and ask them to.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#62 - 2012-06-04 02:36:25 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Shian Yang wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
No sir i'm not fishing for inflammatory responses. Under that logic nothing that would change EVE from 0 day could be discussed because not a single change in EVE has ever occured without having upset at least one person. I genuinely believe in that which I type and to insinuate I do not is a grave insult to my character.


Greetings capsuleer,

Then desist with this public display of rage and take it to a formal petition. As we cannot provide you with a response and it is exceptionally unlikely that CCP will provide a public response in a thread that was created and sustained to antagonise other capsuleers.

Regards,

Shian Yang


A petition does not allow the community to weigh in on the issue presented. And further any response recieved from the petition wouldn't be allowed to be discussed with the public. Therefore what you are suggesting is in essence never posting that which I feel affects the community in any way that the community would be allowed to involve themselves in the discussion.



You are questioning forum moderation, a discussion that one of us can have, hence Shians suggestion that you take this to a petition.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#63 - 2012-06-04 02:38:34 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Shian Yang wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
No sir i'm not fishing for inflammatory responses. Under that logic nothing that would change EVE from 0 day could be discussed because not a single change in EVE has ever occured without having upset at least one person. I genuinely believe in that which I type and to insinuate I do not is a grave insult to my character.


Greetings capsuleer,

Then desist with this public display of rage and take it to a formal petition. As we cannot provide you with a response and it is exceptionally unlikely that CCP will provide a public response in a thread that was created and sustained to antagonise other capsuleers.

Regards,

Shian Yang


A petition does not allow the community to weigh in on the issue presented. And further any response recieved from the petition wouldn't be allowed to be discussed with the public. Therefore what you are suggesting is in essence never posting that which I feel affects the community in any way that the community would be allowed to involve themselves in the discussion.



You are questioning forum moderation, a discussion that one of us can have, hence Shians suggestion that you take this to a petition.


No im not. Im asking for clarification on topics that are allowed or disallowed in EVE general discussion and toying with incompetents.
Shian Yang
#64 - 2012-06-04 02:39:12 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
A petition does not allow the community to weigh in on the issue presented. And further any response recieved from the petition wouldn't be allowed to be discussed with the public. Therefore what you are suggesting is in essence never posting that which I feel affects the community in any way that the community would be allowed to involve themselves in the discussion.


Greetings capsuleer,

OP wrote:
I'm not getting it. What exactly is able to be posted in this forum? It appears i've struck a nerve and now anything I post is removed. Yet slurs, snide remarks and general harassment isn't. Enlighten me, what qualifies as a general discussion of EVE?


The answer to your question does not fall within the province of capsuleers. It is the sole domain of CCP. As to the community; the rest of them seems to have a pretty good grasp of where the boundaries lie.

For example. The vast majority would not re-create a locked thread three times over after the original had been moved to a more appropriate location.

Regards,

Shian Yang
Vanria Vexed
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#65 - 2012-06-04 02:39:43 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer.


I did read the rules, and I didnt find anything either of my posts violated sans discussing moderating bias. And I never drew first blood in the threads and no action or moderation was taken against those who did. So don't slap me with the whip and then cry out in pain.


Once again to repeat something that was stated before that you fail to understand; these forums belong to CCP, hence their property. They can do with it as they see fit, even censor people, so conduct your self accordingly to the rules even with loose interpretations of the rules.

**Playing EVE at times feels like putting a 10000 piece puzzle together, enjoying the accomplishment of succedding in completing it, then having some random stranger walk by and flip your table over. **
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#66 - 2012-06-04 02:40:08 UTC
No the community does not. Just because you state it doesn't make it so.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#67 - 2012-06-04 02:41:20 UTC
caliph muhammed is a martyr of oppression by the pro-local tyrants

(or at least he feels that way vOv)

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#68 - 2012-06-04 02:41:47 UTC
Vanria Vexed wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Kimmi Chan wrote:
If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer.


I did read the rules, and I didnt find anything either of my posts violated sans discussing moderating bias. And I never drew first blood in the threads and no action or moderation was taken against those who did. So don't slap me with the whip and then cry out in pain.


Once again to repeat something that was stated before that you fail to understand; these forums belong to CCP, hence their property. They can do with it as they see fit, even censor people, so conduct your self accordingly to the rules even with loose interpretations of the rules.


I would be glad to and have thus far, sans discussing of forum topics that are not listed as incompatible with EVE general chat and asking for clarification of those un noted yet apparently taboo subjects.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#69 - 2012-06-04 02:42:13 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
No the community does not. Just because you state it doesn't make it so.

The community does not WHAT?

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#70 - 2012-06-04 02:42:25 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Shian Yang wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
No sir i'm not fishing for inflammatory responses. Under that logic nothing that would change EVE from 0 day could be discussed because not a single change in EVE has ever occured without having upset at least one person. I genuinely believe in that which I type and to insinuate I do not is a grave insult to my character.


Greetings capsuleer,

Then desist with this public display of rage and take it to a formal petition. As we cannot provide you with a response and it is exceptionally unlikely that CCP will provide a public response in a thread that was created and sustained to antagonise other capsuleers.

Regards,

Shian Yang


A petition does not allow the community to weigh in on the issue presented. And further any response recieved from the petition wouldn't be allowed to be discussed with the public. Therefore what you are suggesting is in essence never posting that which I feel affects the community in any way that the community would be allowed to involve themselves in the discussion.



You are questioning forum moderation, a discussion that one of us can have, hence Shians suggestion that you take this to a petition.


No im not. Im asking for clarification on topics that are allowed or disallowed in EVE general discussion and toying with incompetents.


So you admit you are attempting to discus moderation, good, now we are getting somewhere.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-06-04 02:44:31 UTC
It appears English comprehension isn't your strong point.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2012-06-04 02:44:50 UTC
CSM topics go in Jita Park

Discussions of ideas for the game go in F&I

Scams, mercs, etc go in C&P

Alliance Tournament discussion goes in the AT subforum

Market talk goes in MD

These things are not difficult to grasp

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
gulftobay
Mesotopia
#73 - 2012-06-04 02:46:03 UTC
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-06-04 02:47:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
This isn't relevant to the current topic. I know where the thread is. This topic once again for the daft byproduct of western education is about clarification of topics that are allowed in EVE general discussion.

If there is a subforum for every topic of EVE then what is General Discussions purpose? Is it to ask A/S/L/ of EVE players? Enlighten me.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#75 - 2012-06-04 02:50:49 UTC
EVE GD is for EVE-related discussions that do not fit in the context of the other sections. If you posted a thread in GD asking about the sweet spot between DPS and tank on a Proteus it'd be moved to Ships and Modules. If you posted a thread asking what setup is best for blitzing Guristas missions it'd be moved to Missions and Complexes. The moderators are not obligated to agree with your wish to reach out to the largest possible audience.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#76 - 2012-06-04 02:52:03 UTC
You should learn how quoting works, you know that?

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#77 - 2012-06-04 02:53:14 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Im asking for clarification on topics that are allowed or disallowed in EVE general discussion




As per forum rules, post a petition.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
gulftobay
Mesotopia
#78 - 2012-06-04 02:53:46 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
This isn't relevant to the current topic. I know where the thread is. This topic once again for the daft byproduct of western education is about clarification of topics that are allowed in EVE general discussion.

If there is a subforum for every topic of EVE then what is General Discussions purpose? Is it to ask A/S/L/ of EVE players? Enlighten me.


Fine. Then I'm all for abolishing GD and not having to listen to this type of blather. You had an idea, get it?
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#79 - 2012-06-04 02:54:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Okay can you provide an example of a topic that would fall under EVE General Discussion while not falling under another subforum. And If you can't could it be stated that the rules are selectively applied to posters and or ideas that certain people do not care for? And in doing so what that not indicate clear bias from a party that professes neutrality for the sake of the game?
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#80 - 2012-06-04 02:56:09 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Okay can you provide an example of a topicthat would fall under EVE General Discussion while not falling under another subforum.


I've already outlined this on this very page.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration