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Jumping into gate camps
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Koujjo Dian
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-06-03 20:46:58 UTC
If I jump through a gate in a punisher and find a gate camp on the other side is it better to try and warp away or try to crawl back to the gate?
Moonasha
Orcses and Goblinz
#2 - 2012-06-03 21:02:14 UTC
depends on the gatecamp. If they have fast lockers, you should burn back
Sokor Loro
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-06-03 22:08:30 UTC
Moonasha wrote:
depends on the gatecamp. If they have fast lockers, you should burn back


Yep, this. If you see interceptors I would crash the gate. Instacanes (or other sebo ships) can also lock/point you real quick.

The best thing I ever did to teach myself something in this game was to buy 10 Probes, find gate camps, and practice getting threw them or crashing the gate. I lost 7 before I figured out when was best to do what. Nothing beats experience.
Koujjo Dian
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2012-06-03 22:43:56 UTC
So the answer is "depends" lol. No really, that makes sense. Truthfully I can't even tell you what ship types they were. I saw flashy red and immediately started to warp out. I guess I should pay attention and see how long my cloak lasts when I jump through a gate so next time I know about how much time I have to make a decision. Thanks.
Red zeon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-06-03 23:03:08 UTC
depends
is it lowsec? u in a frig? just warp away
u in 00? is it bubbled? u in frig? warp away
00 and its bubbled, can u fly 8k+ M/s burn out and warp
00 and its bubbled, burn back to gate
Abbadon21
Ignotis Imperium
Usurper.
#6 - 2012-06-04 02:32:52 UTC
Yeah, in most cases if there is no bubble and you are in a frigate you can warp before anything can lock you.

I made a video about escaping camps a while back. You can check it out here: http://www.eveproguides.com/escaping-gate-camps-video-guide/

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Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-06-04 06:54:12 UTC
Is there a max align time one should keep in mind?

When deciding to wther or not you should burn to the gate or not?
Marsan
#8 - 2012-06-04 08:33:10 UTC
The thing to remember when you jump into a gate camp is to keep your head. Your gate cloak lasts for 30 seconds. Take a look at what you are facing. General I find a station, moon or customs office and target it. (Have an overview tab with this setup.) If you have a cloak and MW do this http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Cloak_Trick. If not just hit warp and hope for the best. If you get pointed burn for the gate.

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Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#9 - 2012-06-04 14:39:12 UTC
You have 1 minute of cloak time. Use that time to survey the camp and make an informed decision on what tactic to use. In something small warping off is typically the best alternative, where as something larger (and thus slower) usually burning back is best. But as has been said already its entirely dependent on the particular situation.

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FuzzyButt
The Lazy Crabs
#10 - 2012-06-05 06:51:45 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
You have 1 minute of cloak time. Use that time to survey the camp and make an informed decision on what tactic to use. In something small warping off is typically the best alternative, where as something larger (and thus slower) usually burning back is best. But as has been said already its entirely dependent on the particular situation.



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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-06-05 14:44:02 UTC
Mike Whiite wrote:
Is there a max align time one should keep in mind?

When deciding to wther or not you should burn to the gate or not?



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Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2012-06-05 14:45:16 UTC
Princess Nexxala wrote:
You have 1 minute of cloak time. Use that time to survey the camp and make an informed decision on what tactic to use. In something small warping off is typically the best alternative, where as something larger (and thus slower) usually burning back is best. But as has been said already its entirely dependent on the particular situation.


Wow, please visit my summer camp

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Pinky Feldman
Amarrian Vengeance
Ragequit Cancel Sub
#13 - 2012-06-05 16:46:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinky Feldman
Honestly, your best bet is to die to the gate campers and then make an angry post somewhere on the forums about how they have no skill and criticize how they choose to use their time playing EVE. Calling them sociopaths in real life who only like to prey on people who don't want to fight is also a good option.

It doesn't matter if you lose a ship in EVE as long as you are sure to call out the other group on being less skilled at the game than you, even though you're the one with the dead ship.

The key thing i'm trying to say here is, don't change your playing style based on how other people enjoy playing the game. If someone else isn't playing the game in a way that is convenient for you, THEY are the ones doing it wrong and therefore must be bad at the game.

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Aulx-Gao Ekanon
#14 - 2012-06-05 16:50:17 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Honestly, your best bet is to die to the gate campers and then make an angry post somewhere on the forums about how they have no skill and criticize how they choose to use their time playing EVE. Calling them sociopaths in real life who only like to prey on people who don't want to fight is also a good option.

It doesn't matter if you lose a ship in EVE as long as you are sure to call out the other group on being less skilled at the game than you, even though you're the one with the dead ship.


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Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
#15 - 2012-06-05 17:26:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinstar Colton
I've found success with warping as soon as I zone in, not waiting for a second. If they've been sitting there awhile and semi afkish...one guy in the group is probably watching the gate and may say "hey someone just warped in" to get the others ready to lock.

If the pointers happen to be the ones semi-afk in the time it takes them to realize its their cue, you're already gone.

If you sit and wait there for 30 seconds, it'll give them time to be ready to pounce the second you decloak.


I've landed in gate camps in my industrial and, after hitting warp immediately...had only one, maybe two guys in a 6-man gate camp start locking me.

The same tactic works if you jump into a gate camp from the back end and they all follow you through the gate.

This doesn't work if they have a scout and know you're coming.

In the cat-and-mouse game that is low sec, there is no shame in learning to be a better mouse.

Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-06-05 17:51:04 UTC
An attempt to warp out almost never works.
Arianne Stone
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
#17 - 2012-06-05 21:14:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Arianne Stone
Depends on the camp size and what ships there are, i've only been caught in a frig once or twice and gone through many gate camps.

And i usually just warp out.
Sarah Schneider
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2012-06-07 21:33:29 UTC
Pinstar Colton wrote:
I've found success with warping as soon as I zone in, not waiting for a second. If they've been sitting there awhile and semi afkish...one guy in the group is probably watching the gate and may say "hey someone just warped in" to get the others ready to lock.

If the pointers happen to be the ones semi-afk in the time it takes them to realize its their cue, you're already gone.

If you sit and wait there for 30 seconds, it'll give them time to be ready to pounce the second you decloak.


I've landed in gate camps in my industrial and, after hitting warp immediately...had only one, maybe two guys in a 6-man gate camp start locking me.

The same tactic works if you jump into a gate camp from the back end and they all follow you through the gate.

This doesn't work if they have a scout and know you're coming.

I concur with this. Depending on what ship you fly, waiting for [insert_random_numbers_here] seconds before you go when there are inties or light tackles about could be a worse idea than warping out instantly (generally, warping out when there are inties camping you while you're in a big ship isn't a good idea though), because in that time they can prepare themselves and wait until you break gate cloak.

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Arec Bardwin
#19 - 2012-06-07 22:22:41 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Princess Nexxala wrote:
You have 1 minute of cloak time.

Wow, please visit my summer camp
Yes, he'll be there as your instructor, nubbins. You have a full 60 seconds of gate cloak, even during summer P
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#20 - 2012-06-08 04:36:24 UTC
Koujjo Dian wrote:
So the answer is "depends" lol. No really, that makes sense. Truthfully I can't even tell you what ship types they were. I saw flashy red and immediately started to warp out. I guess I should pay attention and see how long my cloak lasts when I jump through a gate so next time I know about how much time I have to make a decision. Thanks.


In low sec I have found that if I have an MWD - I burn back. One quick pulse and your on the gate clicking(spamming) jump just in time. This works for me 99% of the time.

If no MWD - Look for a Celestial or something else in line (in front of your ship) with where you jumped in. Find whatever you are most aligned to, try warp to it and hope for the best.

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