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Can we clarify what is a post for general discussion?

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gulftobay
Mesotopia
#41 - 2012-06-04 02:07:34 UTC
So now you've developed a martyr complex? Oh this is good.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#42 - 2012-06-04 02:08:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Witty no? It plays on the whole Muslim stereotype. I never considered Joan, but I suppose that works too. But the word fits. When truth is silenced by oppressive tyrants those who dare speak it in spite of consequences are considered martyrs.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#43 - 2012-06-04 02:11:39 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Witty no? It plays on the whole Muslim stereotype. I never considered Joan, but I suppose that works too.


So now you are branching out in to racial/religious stereotyping? Because only Muslims are martyrs? Or because all Muslims are martyrs? Treading a fine line there mate.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#44 - 2012-06-04 02:12:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
Aemonchichi wrote:
Roisin Saoirse wrote:
The moderators are being very restrained.

i luld a bit there 8)

i been playing eve for some years now, and eve-forums always been a place to get info, hints, gossip and rumors

nowadays its pure shiat - ccp should be ashamed of these forums, just imagine a new player checks the forums before subscribing - byebye

only hatin and flaming goin on, every try of constuctive posts is ruined by horde of ppl hunting +1 posts or just writing shiat or flames

moderation is not really happening

considering a official forum is kind of a business card for eve towards new players and honestly its nothing ccp can be proud of, it was good, well maybe not good but way better, some years ago but nowadays its a cesspool of hate

There's a lot of truth to this ^

imho...

Religion and politics from RL have no place on these forums. They have nothing to do with the game. If your name is offensive to someone because they have religion butthurt then to hell with them, figuratively speaking of course P. If someone is berating you for your religion and you didn't engage with them on the topic or otherwise bring it up, you should petition it.

Signatures should be used responsibly...
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#45 - 2012-06-04 02:13:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
No im playing on the fact I often endure trolls and slurs that are based on the assumption i'm Arab Muslim do to my name. I only brought it up in answer to your comment about me using the word martyr.

Back to the topic at hand is there anyone with the intellect able to point me to what exactly is acceptable conversation in EVE general discussion. I think VV made it clear to a degree but i'm still waiting and hoping for a concise list of either what can or can't be posted.
Ban Bindy
Bindy Brothers Pottery Association
True Reign
#46 - 2012-06-04 02:17:38 UTC
A discussion is when many people want to talk about a topic. Not when you post over and over again that you are right about your idea even though not that many people are agreeing with you. By your own admission in the thread you moved the post to the top of the forum every day. The moderators let it go on for 40 pages and then decided that you weren't going to relent in the discussion and moved it. You have not been censored. Your thread is where people can read and post to it if they like.

This thread will likely be locked again because you are discussing forum moderation again, and that's not allowed. You don't really have free speech here, to the degree that you get to make the rules. Have your crusade if you want, and enjoy yourself.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#47 - 2012-06-04 02:18:34 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
No im playing on the fact I often endure trolls and slurs that are based on the assumption i'm Arab Muslim do to my name. I only brought it up in answer to your comment about me using the word martyr.


So you purposely use the name Caliph Muhammed, then you admit to using the word "Martyr" because people assume you are an Arab Muslim......interesting.

It is worth noting that not all Muslims are Arab, so that is an example of racial stereotyping. Also you chose to use the word Martyr specifically because of the Arab Muslim connection, another example of stereotyping by you, this time religious in nature. You assume that the word Martyr only applies to Muslims.

I would say that you have well and truly stepped over a line, and feigning ignorance is going to be of little help to you.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#48 - 2012-06-04 02:20:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Ban Bindy wrote:
A discussion is when many people want to talk about a topic. Not when you post over and over again that you are right about your idea even though not that many people are agreeing with you. By your own admission in the thread you moved the post to the top of the forum every day. The moderators let it go on for 40 pages and then decided that you weren't going to relent in the discussion and moved it. You have not been censored. Your thread is where people can read and post to it if they like.

This thread will likely be locked again because you are discussing forum moderation again, and that's not allowed. You don't really have free speech here, to the degree that you get to make the rules. Have your crusade if you want, and enjoy yourself.


No im not discussing forum moderation im searching for a answer to the OP and unfortunately it relates to moderation but not in the sense it explicitly discusses the act of moderation.

Thats an interesting spin on what occured.
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange Inc.
#49 - 2012-06-04 02:20:27 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
No im playing on the fact I often endure trolls and slurs that are based on the assumption i'm Arab Muslim do to my name. I only brought it up in answer to your comment about me using the word martyr.


So you purposely use the name Caliph Muhammed, then you admit to using the word "Martyr" because people assume you are an Arab Muslim......interesting.

It is worth noting that not all Muslims are Arab, so that is an example of racial stereotyping. Also you chose to use the word Martyr specifically because of the Arab Muslim connection, another example of stereotyping by you, this time religious in nature. You assume that the word Martyr only applies to Muslims.

I would say that you have well and truly stepped over a line, and feigning ignorance is going to be of little help to you.

Its that a violation of the very EULA they love quoting so much?

Inappropriate signature removed, CCP Phantom.
Shian Yang
#50 - 2012-06-04 02:22:43 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
And im not whining, im just not scared of consequences when I know im in the right. So why don't you scuttle of to a dark corner troglodyte?


Greetings capsuleer,

Right is determined by CCP on the discussion boards they own. They have decided you are not right.

Quote:
Look up the definition of general you simpleton before you involve yourself in a conversation of which you aren't really capable of providing any worthwhile point.


Says the capsuleer applauding a very good, humerous response from Vahrokha as if it had a basis in reality?

Capsuleer Muhammed, you know as well as the rest of us that you are fishing for inflammatory responses. If you had wanted an official response; instead of simply a way to soothe yourself by soliciting "interesting" responses you would have contacted CCP directly.

Regards,

Shian Yang
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#51 - 2012-06-04 02:24:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
No sir i'm not fishing for inflammatory responses. Under that logic nothing that would change EVE from 0 day could be discussed because not a single change in EVE has ever occured without having upset at least one person. I genuinely believe in that which I type and to insinuate I do not is a grave insult to my character.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#52 - 2012-06-04 02:25:42 UTC
Tallian Saotome wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
No im playing on the fact I often endure trolls and slurs that are based on the assumption i'm Arab Muslim do to my name. I only brought it up in answer to your comment about me using the word martyr.


So you purposely use the name Caliph Muhammed, then you admit to using the word "Martyr" because people assume you are an Arab Muslim......interesting.

It is worth noting that not all Muslims are Arab, so that is an example of racial stereotyping. Also you chose to use the word Martyr specifically because of the Arab Muslim connection, another example of stereotyping by you, this time religious in nature. You assume that the word Martyr only applies to Muslims.

I would say that you have well and truly stepped over a line, and feigning ignorance is going to be of little help to you.

Its that a violation of the very EULA they love quoting so much?



Why yes, I do believe that it is.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2012-06-04 02:26:24 UTC
Shian Yang
#54 - 2012-06-04 02:27:34 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
No sir i'm not fishing for inflammatory responses. Under that logic nothing that would change EVE from 0 day could be discussed because not a single change in EVE has ever occured without having upset at least one person. I genuinely believe in that which I type and to insinuate I do not is a grave insult to my character.


Greetings capsuleer,

Then desist with this public display of rage and take it to a formal petition. As we cannot provide you with a response and it is exceptionally unlikely that CCP will provide a public response in a thread that was created and sustained to antagonise other capsuleers.

Regards,

Shian Yang
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#55 - 2012-06-04 02:29:23 UTC
If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer.

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

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Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#56 - 2012-06-04 02:30:31 UTC
Shian Yang wrote:
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
No sir i'm not fishing for inflammatory responses. Under that logic nothing that would change EVE from 0 day could be discussed because not a single change in EVE has ever occured without having upset at least one person. I genuinely believe in that which I type and to insinuate I do not is a grave insult to my character.


Greetings capsuleer,

Then desist with this public display of rage and take it to a formal petition. As we cannot provide you with a response and it is exceptionally unlikely that CCP will provide a public response in a thread that was created and sustained to antagonise other capsuleers.

Regards,

Shian Yang


A petition does not allow the community to weigh in on the issue presented. And further any response recieved from the petition wouldn't be allowed to be discussed with the public. Therefore what you are suggesting is in essence never posting that which I feel affects the community in any way that the community would be allowed to involve themselves in the discussion.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-06-04 02:32:31 UTC
Kimmi Chan wrote:
If you really want to know what is and is not acceptable in GD then read the forum rules. If you have questions about the forum rules ask the forum moderators. Don't make yet another post questioning it and then berate anyone who dares answer.


I did read the rules, and I didnt find anything either of my posts violated sans discussing moderating bias. And I never drew first blood in the threads and no action or moderation was taken against those who did. So don't slap me with the whip and then cry out in pain.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#58 - 2012-06-04 02:34:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Take this post as a perfect example. Was anyone berated in the OP? Then on page one who started the berating? Is it removed? Are they still in the thread posting unhindered? I guess we have to learn to appreciate selective application of the rules.
Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
#59 - 2012-06-04 02:35:28 UTC
I'm debating if I would miss your posting if you were banned from the forums...

Nope.

"Grr Kimmi  Nerf Chans!" ~Jenn aSide

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Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#60 - 2012-06-04 02:35:32 UTC
Ah well... Since Cutter and Shian are doing a great job here, I will just stick to reading this one as long as it lasts.

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