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Is it time for Technetium to crash?

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#41 - 2012-05-29 01:03:29 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
thank you for your entrail readings they are highly useful


for me to poop on


I'll sit on a river shore.
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
#42 - 2012-05-29 03:05:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Akita T
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Akita T wrote:
P.S. In fact, you might as well get a blanket statement out with "goons will buy all fresh tech production from OTEC members at 195k per unit" P

that's an idea, i may do that but it would still be a giant pain in the ass since selling as much tech as we do is already annoying as ****

Eh, just throw orders up at exactly your target price, not even 0.01 more or less (with between 3 to 10 day's worth of market trade volume among the orders that are up) and let time sort them out...
"This is the price OTEC sells at, not a dime less" Twisted
Claire Voyant
#43 - 2012-05-29 14:22:21 UTC
EvilweaselSA wrote:
it might work somewhat, PL has a lot of moons that are individually owned and he can fleece them but i've been getting the production capacity to absorb excess tech ready for dealing with this sort of stuff, once that goes online i can start just sponging out the market anytime someone tries to crash and grab

Don't listen to Akita. This will work. All the rest is just words. Selling tech in Jita just feeds the speculators.
I worked in oil futures in the eighties, and speculators were never friends of OPEC.
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#44 - 2012-05-29 14:42:26 UTC
Akita T wrote:
EvilweaselSA wrote:
Akita T wrote:
P.S. In fact, you might as well get a blanket statement out with "goons will buy all fresh tech production from OTEC members at 195k per unit" P

that's an idea, i may do that but it would still be a giant pain in the ass since selling as much tech as we do is already annoying as ****

Eh, just throw orders up at exactly your target price, not even 0.01 more or less (with between 3 to 10 day's worth of market trade volume among the orders that are up) and let time sort them out...
"This is the price OTEC sells at, not a dime less" Twisted

No, the pain in the ass is actually selling the tech: it is a gigantic pain to sell something like 5m units a month, i don't even want to imagine selling 10m

though i suppose if i'm the only supplier on the block it might be easier but still eaugh
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#45 - 2012-05-29 15:42:22 UTC
First (tech) world problems.
Caecilia Arene
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-05-29 20:43:57 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
You are better to fix the market fast, because the current dynamic + static 180k support has been broken, then there is another at about 170k and then a very very steep dive to 155k.

I haven't been watching it for a few days but it's fallen off a cliff Shocked.

But yep. Looks like it breached 180k rather easily... So 155k here we come Blink.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#47 - 2012-05-30 01:36:28 UTC
A hero has stepped forth to rally the market.

Who is this masked financier? Will he continue to stave off falling tech prices?

Nobody knows.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#48 - 2012-05-30 02:00:03 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
A hero has stepped forth to rally the market.

Who is this masked financier? Will he continue to stave off falling tech prices?

Nobody knows.


I do.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

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Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#49 - 2012-05-30 02:03:44 UTC
lol

i was being poetical
EvilweaselSA
GoonCorp
Goonswarm Federation
#50 - 2012-06-03 13:07:58 UTC
Caecilia Arene wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
You are better to fix the market fast, because the current dynamic + static 180k support has been broken, then there is another at about 170k and then a very very steep dive to 155k.

I haven't been watching it for a few days but it's fallen off a cliff Shocked.

But yep. Looks like it breached 180k rather easily... So 155k here we come Blink.

told you, one week
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#51 - 2012-06-03 13:27:21 UTC
Disappointing "crash". Not nearly enough panic.

I think my expectations were too high, and disappointment was inevitable.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#52 - 2012-06-03 19:25:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Darth Tickles wrote:
Disappointing "crash". Not nearly enough panic.

I think my expectations were too high, and disappointment was inevitable.


Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

You are better to fix the market fast...


It's why I stay the hell out of this market, it's like gambling inside the lion's mouth.

But even then (assuming they did anything) they could not fake it. It still obeys the long term market structure.

Now, if the market was not manipulated, the "natural" first target of that 4D PB would be 197K, possibly going thu a DB first.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#53 - 2012-06-04 00:35:36 UTC
yes but if you'd leveraged the 5R GQ at 166 then maybe, just maybe you'd have gotten RDQ at 195k.

This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.

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Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#54 - 2012-06-04 00:46:55 UTC
corestwo wrote:
yes but if you'd leveraged the 5R GQ at 166 then maybe, just maybe you'd have gotten RDQ at 195k.


Oh man, you just made my candlestick drip.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#55 - 2012-06-12 02:12:55 UTC
all jokes aside, if techn is going to spike, now might be a good time to reevaluate the T2 market, most likely there's room to grow, and of course make my trading just that much more interesting with the goons taking over the world thing, eve wouldn't be the same without evil people takeing over the world.

I could be very wrong, but Im probably on the ball.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#56 - 2012-06-12 05:53:51 UTC
Kara Books wrote:

I could be very wrong, but Im probably on the ball.


You could read the second part of this post. It's just eyeballed though, as currently I am so busy with the last month of RL trading before summer stop that I don't have the time for EvE markets.
SetrakDark
Doomheim
#57 - 2012-06-12 13:20:48 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
You could read the second part of this post. It's just eyeballed though, as currently I am so busy with the last month of RL trading before summer stop that I don't have the time for EvE markets.


Your tech analysis has consisted of "see, I told everyone it was going to crash" every time it pauses in its inevitable climb based on strong fundamentals, until of course it then resumes its climb and you have nothing to say. I, fortunately for myself, don't read anything else you post, but your track record with tech is farcical, and your intermittent confirmation bias doubly so.


Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#58 - 2012-06-12 15:43:19 UTC
SetrakDark wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
You could read the second part of this post. It's just eyeballed though, as currently I am so busy with the last month of RL trading before summer stop that I don't have the time for EvE markets.


Your tech analysis has consisted of "see, I told everyone it was going to crash" every time it pauses in its inevitable climb based on strong fundamentals, until of course it then resumes its climb and you have nothing to say. I, fortunately for myself, don't read anything else you post, but your track record with tech is farcical, and your intermittent confirmation bias doubly so.



No, my tech analysis has been this;

Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
You are better to fix the market fast, because the current dynamic + static 180k support has been broken, then there is another at about 170k and then a very very steep dive to 155k.


... a fix that has been done and thus what would have naturally happened - the price drop - did not.

Strong fundamentals and technetium don't belong to the same thread. It's manipulated like sh!t. All what's possible to do is to watch the trails of what happens and use them as hint for that may come next - assuming it's not manipulated again.
SetrakDark
Doomheim
#59 - 2012-06-12 15:57:06 UTC  |  Edited by: SetrakDark
None of what you said contradicts my point about the value of your analysis, except your absolutely baseless assertion that it is "manipulated to ****", and actually only confirms my evaluation of your analysis. The only part you left out was the ten or so times you've done this song and dance before and been proven wrong over and over and over.

This is also a prime example of why "boarded window" technical analysis is stupid beyond measure. You assume all price movements are simply outputs of past prices, and not based on actual fundamental information. You have arbitrarily decided that after a certain point the price has been "manipulated", and everything that then follows is predictable by your voodoo charts.

I am happy to accept that there are psychological patterns to price variation, and that these patterns can, on occasion, be exploited to predict general short term price movements. However, to give yourself over completely to voodoo magic that directly contradicts observable changes based on relevant and connected changes in the state of the world is the height of navel-gazing stupidity, a stupidity that has been exampled multiple times now by you.

Anyone can fall back on "oh you'll see...you'll ALL see!"; it doesn't take a bunch of voodoo charts to engage in this fanciful and fallacious thinking.
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#60 - 2012-06-12 15:59:36 UTC
He's actually right that it's been manipulated to ****. The price correction back up to 190+ was even a manipulation. Twisted

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