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An Open Letter to the Minmatar Militia

Author
Salicaz
Verrimus Caelum
#21 - 2012-06-03 09:53:54 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:

Mhmm. Actually, we like Fweddit because they actually fight instead of crying on the forums.



Ahahahaha! Kettle, Pot, Black anyone?

Quick duck, an SOTF member!! To the forums!
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#22 - 2012-06-03 11:04:22 UTC
Sam Sabre wrote:
It is a real shame that a corp of pilots can join a militia and in days, be the talk of the town just because they don't care about losing ships as long as they get PVP. Faction Warfare is easy for PVP, especially in the Amarr Faction. Unfortunately it is difficult to unify the Amarrians due to some of the a-holes in the militia who prefer to berate new members instead of helping them. Some of 7th's guys are alright, however they have some guys need'n some boot'n to square away those ranks...

Don't worry, all you eve players out there, Fweddit is taking care of the lil ole Amarr militia. You are all welcome.
Funny, the bolded is the exact same thing we said about those people when they were in the Caldari militia and probably the reason that they didn't come back after they left.

SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#23 - 2012-06-03 12:17:13 UTC
Shylari Avada wrote:
Vordak Kallager wrote:

Over shipping? May: http://autoz.eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=100974&m=5&y=2012&view=ships_weapons July: http://autoz.eve-kill.net/?a=corp_detail&crp_id=100974&m=6&y=2012&view=ships_weapons We're in Cruisers, Destroyers and Frigates, mate. The Guardian supported Hurricane and Battleship fleets you claim we are always in are imaginary.



Confirming I have yet to see a single guardian, and only briefly glimpsed a few battleships on stations.

I do however, often see Loki/Tengu boosters on stations/gates; no idea who they belong to, and honestly we don't care. FWeddit has links, and we won't apologize for using them.


I know certain amarr boosters hug gates and stations. The matar boosters i know of use posses and are very reluctant to make them mobile.
Ashriban Kador
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-06-03 12:21:29 UTC
I for one love reading Milita Chat and occasionally adding, advice, intel, trolls as I feel like. Cool

As for Minmatar overshipping? Technically yeah. I mean, all the Vigils and Dramiels I find while wandering around plexes looking for fights always run away from my Tormentor. The Thrashers always engage me though. (And I always die lol)

I'll see what happens when my stock or frigs is gone (Only 3 or 4 left now!) and I start flying Coercers. (They can't fit Stabbers and Ruptures in Minor Plexes heh heh)

Your goals may align with some ... and with others, collide with the force of suns.

DurrHurrDurr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#25 - 2012-06-03 12:34:15 UTC
The 7th are pretty worthless. They've admitted that they don't like to fight and will only ever plex if they can. They chestbeat about ~victory point stats~ and ~killboard stats~ in Militia chat whenever someone calls them ****, but they only ever fight defensively in plexes and only when they outship their opponent. They're more or less the quintessential definition of the retards that make good PVP in EVE hard to find, and as a Fweddit diplomat I've already set a few of their specific members red and KOS.

Like every group, there are some cool dudes, but it's so chock-full of Shitlers and worthless retards that I've been tempted on occasion to just wardec them and start a civil war.
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
#26 - 2012-06-03 13:44:03 UTC
DurrHurrDurr wrote:
.Like every group, there are some cool dudes, but it's so chock-full of Shitlers and worthless retards that I've been tempted on occasion to just wardec them and start a civil war.

Do it. It's fun.

SCHALAC HAS SPOKEN!! http://eveboard.com/pilot/Schalac

DurrDurrDurr
Upvote
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#27 - 2012-06-03 13:47:00 UTC
Schalac wrote:
DurrHurrDurr wrote:
.Like every group, there are some cool dudes, but it's so chock-full of Shitlers and worthless retards that I've been tempted on occasion to just wardec them and start a civil war.

Do it. It's fun.


It would definitely make militia chat funny.
Tatarinov
Lisnave
Pandemic Horde
#28 - 2012-06-03 15:20:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Tatarinov
Back when I was in Amarr FW I had most stuff set to blink off. Some militia members were a disgrace, even in our own chat. Take Hotpockets as an example with his non-stop egocentrism. Literally whining one second, gloating the next. And others in chat (and thus Amarr miltia) were even worse. It reminded me of why I went and played CAL/TWL in the CoD series instead of pubbing. Susan Black wasn't much better in local unlike a lot of the minnies who typically gave respectful "o7" when passing through or looking for a fight. Both militias are sadly stuck with such pilots...
Anywho, no need to wait for intel when you can just fly around in a frigate (or disco domi and **** of Gritz1 :P ) and try finding peeps yourself.
The three different pipes from Kamela each typically had something going on.
I don't know about now with fwreddit guys in Amarr whether things are different or not (wassup fellow Redditors, proacex1 here), but if they can meet the Minnie blobs with Amarr blobs then props to em, bring the fights people, that's the whole point of FW. PVP without worrying about tech moons but still having some more stuff at stake then in RVB.
Imperial Fed. and I.LAWs were some of the most active (both in terms of plexing and nightly fleets) when I was in FW a couple of months ago. W-BR more or less held Kamela and did a lot of stuff on their own, plexing the nearby systems and running the pipes from Kamela. Pirates ran scared of them, and so did most Minnies (whole fleets, mind ya) when W-BR had more then a few people on (yet minnies would come in during the W-BR TZ low and poke the station; bamf carrier, poof, minnie fleet). I.LAWs had Arzad as a main priority, and the Imperial Feds had Auga/Dal to worry about. All of those corps came together for big events. 7th did some plexing but otherwise weren't very noticeable save for a couple of pilots who roamed a lot. Even 7th still participated in the bigger events (that big Huola battle for example).
Late Night Alliance, much the same, was always active in their TZ. Iron Oxide also. Neither really found many fights even though one or the other managed to have nightly blobs of +15 at times.
Amarr resistance was an issue due to a lack of will (people just continued on with plexing) or lack of decent TZ availability (most of the blob logged off when the Amarr blob started to build up, ect). Yea LTA had logi support at times. Plenty of ECM, especially the closer to Huola the fight was.
One could look at the TZ activity differences between Amarr/Minimatar blobs alone and see that the US/EU/RU TZs are the big issue for why bigger fights don't happen as frequently as both sides want. Yet the more people join FW on both sides, the better the chances are for more fights.
Something the Amarr fleets finally did a bit more themselves when the logi/ECM started to become really annoying was bring that along and try organizing fleets into generic armor/shield ship types, instead of small-time frig/dessie/cruiser ragtags with mixed tank that I saw outside of the three big corps in Amarr back then. The latter fleet comp did allow for Amarr to plex and take a lot of systems, granted those systems were taken back the next day due to TZ issues (lack of coverage across all TZs and coordination didn't exist in Amarr FW when I was in it). The newer changes helps to prevent that from what I've seen. I big issue within both militias was the annoyance of either side running from a fight, only to get plexed out. Forcing PVP back into plexing
Organization is picking back up within Amarr FW, and the FWreddit guys look to be a good catalyst along with the recently introduced mechanics .
I'm glad to see some fellow redditors pick up the slack, cause let's face it, W-BR, I.LAW, and Imperial Fed can only do so much when the rest of the militia either plex or sits back and watch in militia chat light up with calls of people running from minimatar fleets. The only other option to those guys a lot of the time is "engage and die." Organization within Amarr FW will change that (especially 24/7 TZ organization), but the structure has to be in place before participants decide to fleet up.
I'd like to see something more like back in the days of the Caldari and Gallente FW (when the lopsidedness was bit less then it currently is), when a call went out for militia support and the whole of the militia undocked to help (the Caldari were. The history of that drake train phenomenon was something that drew me into Eve originally.
TL;DR: Less qq, more pewpew.
PS: S*** talking is great for morale and otherwise an extent, but eventually it does get bloody annoying.
PSS: Fellow narwhals, troll the **** out of militia chat until they shape up or ship out. Try not to look stupid yourselves while doing it, or to 9gag with ya'all!
Kuehnelt
Devoid Privateering
#29 - 2012-06-03 18:48:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Kuehnelt
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Mhmm. Actually, we like Fweddit because they actually fight instead of crying on the forums.


Psst. Don't look yet. Look in a moment. OK, now: we are in a Fweddit whine thread, on the forums.

Seriously, look at this ******* crying, it's out of this world.

EDIT:

http://www.reddit.com/r/fweddit/comments/uh0jj/and_this_is_why_i_say_fuck_the_amarr_7th_fleet/

*sulk* *sulk* one of your guys was meeeeean, tell him to shuuuut uuuup *sulk *sulk*

... what? Are you condescending me? Did you just condescend me, using that as a verb, by offering to help? **** YOU. WAR. WAAAAR. NO FUCKS GIVEN. I GIVE SO FEW FUCKS, I WANT EVERY ONE OF YOU TO HUG ME AND COO AT ME TELL ME IT WILL BE ALRIGHT

Quote:
I can tell you now that AUTOZ literally doesn't have any T3 Boosting alts. LNA doesn't use Boosting alts unless very specific people are online that have access to them, which usually means there is some big operation planned.


It was clear that you haven't even heard of them in the other thread with your "IMAGINARY BOOSTERS", but: Iron Oxide is what people have in mind with such talk.
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#30 - 2012-06-03 19:00:29 UTC
waiting for them to finish crashing drones and frigates.
Shylari Avada
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2012-06-03 19:15:50 UTC
Crushing the 7th Amarr Fleet is going to be amazing.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#32 - 2012-06-03 19:27:16 UTC
Salicaz wrote:
Vordak Kallager wrote:

Mhmm. Actually, we like Fweddit because they actually fight instead of crying on the forums.



Ahahahaha! Kettle, Pot, Black anyone?

Quick duck, an SOTF member!! To the forums!


I'm confused. How is crying about mechanics even comparable about being upset that long-time blues told us to **** off in order to defend our WTs? Besides, we actually fought you then. And will continue to fight SOTF whenever you bring them and -A- over to help you. vOv

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation
#33 - 2012-06-03 19:49:01 UTC
The butthurt is strong with this one.

If you want to fight us you know where live, man up, grow some balls and do something about it - otherwise stop being a whiny child and get back under your rock.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#34 - 2012-06-03 20:12:29 UTC
Gallactica wrote:
The butthurt is strong with this one.

If you want to fight us you know where live, man up, grow some balls and do something about it - otherwise stop being a whiny child and get back under your rock.


Really? I have no doubt you will show up to help W-BR whenever they are in danger. No need for us to relocate.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation
#35 - 2012-06-03 20:55:33 UTC
Still think your a big girls blouse.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#36 - 2012-06-03 21:39:47 UTC
Gallactica wrote:
Still think your a big girls blouse.


You're free to think whatever you want, mate.

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.

Dread Pirate Pete
Doomheim
#37 - 2012-06-03 21:59:29 UTC
Despite the bitching by some Amarr over blobs and NPC's it does seem they now have a number of systems highly contested, and there are smaller fights to be had in backwater systems. I expect we will not be able to keep them in the sac forever, concentrated as they are, and a few more systems will be lost before we settle into something more stable.

Perhaps I have not been around Kamela enough, but here behind the lines there does not seem to be much blobbing, and good fights are to be had for those who enjoy flying internet spaceships more than crying on forums. Pirate
Moonasha
Orcses and Goblinz
#38 - 2012-06-03 22:25:44 UTC
7th fleet is a disgrace to all the Empire stands for. We will litter their corpses across the systems.
Gallactica
Shadows Of The Federation
#39 - 2012-06-03 22:33:48 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Gallactica wrote:
Still think your a big girls blouse.


You're free to think whatever you want, mate.


Cool cool, thanks for not disagreeing mate.
Vordak Kallager
Descendance.
GoonSwarm.
#40 - 2012-06-03 22:39:33 UTC
Gallactica wrote:
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Gallactica wrote:
Still think your a big girls blouse.


You're free to think whatever you want, mate.


Cool cool, thanks for not disagreeing mate.


I never agreed with you, mate. I think my opinion is perfectly justified, and a lot of other people (people in your own militia) think so too. You clearly don't care what anyone who doesn't have a SOTF ticker thinks, and that is your prerogative, as I said "You're free to think what you want."

Sa souvraya niende misain ye.