Science & Industry

To be fair, he didn't exactly suggest doing that. He just put up a hypothetical apropos about degree of fairness of some measures if new T2 BPOs would still be introduced, but he never directly said adding some more would be a good idea. He might have implied it to some small degree, but never outright said it.
Brewlar Kuvakei however did flat out suggest their reintroduction through unspecified means.

Hmm.
Now, that's somewhat surprising, but encouraging.

Just a thing though - how exactly would an "unlimited source of BPCs" differ from a plain old BPO ?
In that you would need to click more than once a month ? That's not really much of a change. So you probably are thinking of something else too.
I am curious on the exact details of your proposal that would make that a sufficiently fair substitute for a removed T2 BPO while also being able to eliminate enough of the initially intentional unfairness of T2 BPOs to satisfy current T2 BPO opponents.
Honestly, I doubt it would pass both criteria at the same time.

Also, again, why nerf T2 BPOs when you can buff invention instead ?
Invention is an annoying clickfest on top of being more wasteful than T2 BPO manufacture, so the more reasonable choice if you want to bring them closer to each-other would be to make invention much less of a clickfest while also making it less wasteful, not make T2 BPO production (or whatever thing you replace a T2 BPO with) more of a drag.

Don't get me wrong, I'd rather see T2 BPOs gone myself.
However, short of using a time machine to stop them from ever having existed, I don't believe there is any way to remove them that would not cause more harm than good overall.
Basically, call them necessary minorly evil genies that can't be stuck back in the bottle without some sacrifices not worth making.

sure, I BET If I would ask you now, to proove your ownership of T2 Ship BPO`s, we would just hear an excuse why you cant/want do that, right?

Sorry, but beefing up your reasoning by saying that you would accept to lose your 100b+ BPO`s ( that you seem to be even emotional attached with, since you even mentioned that you wouldnt sell it for no matter what) makes you just even more untrustworthy. It doesnt fit to your previous postings either.

The BPOs advantage is their efficiency (by being able to be researched). Your unlimited source of BPCs wouldn't negate that advantage in any way. All it would mean is that owners would be able to make their isk without having to actually build anything.

EvE has no bound items (besides implants, which are different). Making them bound items is a terrible idea.



That might work, but figuring out what properties are balanced would not be easy. It's a fine suggestion (I'd prefer nerfing the clickfest, myself, but..).

That doesn't really solve much, if anything.
You just add extra clicking to BPO production (instead of removing clicking from invention), and maybe extra hassle for BPO selling, everything else remains the same.
BPO opponents will still be against it for pretty much the same reasons they are against it now, ability to make stuff cheaper. That doesn't change in your proposal, not one bit.
And if you also go with the "can't be traded" option, you make getting a T2 BPO (or better said, its bizarre proposed equivalent) for somebody who does not have one (but has the ISK for it) even harder than it already is.
Bottom line, it's a pretty lousy "solution", if you can even call it that.

Well I am not really surprise that for irrevelant reasons people complaining...

in RL ppl complaining about neightboors having better car, pretty wife, succes in their job, thinking it was to them to be successfull, to have the nice girl, so wishing higher tax on them, illness and so ;)

Here ppl complaining about game mechanics when they was not successfull. Yes it is, it's called life, that is.
It was a lottery. In RL ppl complaining about lottery? of course not, they play once and once again.

Instead of trying to leverage by the bottom, why not seed T2 BPO again.

Let's take an example: CCP could analyze that for the size of TQ, there is a need of 2000 T2 small shield booster a day.
They could know how many are producing from BPO T2, and how many are producing from invention.

They see there is a gap of 500 pieces a day, so let seed 20 BPO T2 of this and see production increasing and price decreasing (maybe).

Let have also T2 BPO disapearing, being transformed into BPC if not used for a certain amount of time (3, 6 months?)
By this, they can seed new BPO and live is going forward.

But after reading several pages of unrevelant arguments written in this topic I didn't see any reason to change game mechanics.
After it is easy to complain on moon minerals ratio, unfair blablabla..., complain on bad gallente ship, or bad amarr, depending of what ship you fly, complain on scamers because you are stupid and get scamed, conplaining on slow concord response time because you mine afk...

complaining is an easy hatitude.

make ISK and drive your world

lets face it, no idea who came up with that, but the BPC-compesnation Idea is just a really bad one, for so many reasons.

you have to consider the the changes you are looking for would only take in place WHEN these BPC`s are used in a cple years later. This solution would kill inventions aswell, since the amount of BPC`s would inflate the bpc market to death for quite a while.

You can set a BPC's remaining runs higher than the normal max runs on a BPC in the system - proof that it is actually possible lies with older BPCs created before a reduction in max runs on certain items which actually have more runs than should be possible (and those were awesome to use for invention, because the obtained T2 BPC also had quite a few extra runs on it).
Theoretically, CCP could just as well issue a single BPC with many thousands of runs on it (enough to last years of production) in lieu of each of the BPOs, as opposed to many small run count BPCs (which would indeed create the problem you describe).
I mean, in case you really want to go the replacement route and want to keep the "damage" to minimum. Not that I would condone doing that.

What evidence do you have that BPO's have an effect on active markets?

Where are you getting "trillions of Isk"?

50b ships either cost that much due to rarity or mineral price. The Adrestia's a one off and is worth around that much. How much is a 3000 off ship gonna be worth?

I think..

There is another, alternative solution.

Next Fanfest, CCP should have a Pinata filled with all the T2 BPO's in the game, and 2 wooden baseball bats, one for Akita and one for Brewlar, some blindfolds and lots of beer.

Whoever beats the BPO's out of the pinata first wins the argument!