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Would you still pay to play?
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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2012-06-03 13:34:06 UTC
I hate carebearing with a passion, so I'd be really bummed.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Jame Jarl Retief
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-06-03 13:41:49 UTC
Honestly? No, no I wouldn't. Not 100% sure, but about 85% sure. I might come back, check out the latest expansion about twice a year, but that's about it.

It's the same deal as recently released Tera Online. I would play it if it was F2P. But at $15/mo, it's just not worth it. Note: I'm not saying I can't afford it, I'm saying that from a responsible consumer's point of view I can't justify throwing my money at an inferior product.

From where I'm sitting, decision-makers at CCP are their own worst enemy. The game could be very, VERY far ahead of where it is today, if they made simple, intelligent choices and made simple, intelligent modifications to the game. As it applies to EVE, I can't see myself spending money on an MMO that doesn't even have the ability to change the font or scale size. And no, I don't consider 100%-110%-125% and that's it a viable UI scaling system. I like to play on high resolution on big screen, and even at 125% it's still too damn small.

Until CCP starts fixing this very, very basic stuff that has been pretty much a standard feature for games post-2002, I don't see myself paying them for it. I'm not even talking "gankers vs miners" or the colossal failure that was Incarna. I mean very, very basic usability features.
Hathrul
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-06-03 13:44:09 UTC
i would still be playing. just not sure if i would have 4 active accounts all the time
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#24 - 2012-06-03 14:25:11 UTC
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities.



Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong.


I grew up in countries like Ecuador and Thailand. Even there, if you have an internet connection, I can pretty much guarantee you will make $15 faster.
Ten Bulls
Sons of Olsagard
#25 - 2012-06-03 14:25:32 UTC
If you play for fun, and you have 500M left over at the end of the month then you should buy PLEX.

If its a game then its wrong to compare it to work unless you work for fun also.
George Whitebread
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2012-06-03 14:29:50 UTC  |  Edited by: George Whitebread
Rajan Marelona wrote:
George Whitebread wrote:
Lin-Young Borovskova wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:
It is significantly cheaper from a time investment perspective to pony over the subscription. If it takes you less time to make 500m ISK than it does to make $15, then you ought to re-evaluate your priorities.

Probably in most poor countries, in richest ones if you can't make 15$ per hour you did it all wrong.

Indeed. I live and work in Norway, and probably make around $50 per hour. Not sure if Akirei Scytale really thought this through.

You understood it backwards. Akirei Scytale said "LESS" not "more".
If it takes less time to make 500m ISK compared to making 15$, assuming that you make at most 200m ISK per hour but probably much less, that means you make at most 7$ per hour but probably a lot less.


Ah... true. Sorry about that.

"I say what I like, and I like what I bloody well say" - George Whitebread
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#27 - 2012-06-03 15:06:10 UTC
sweetrock wrote:
In all honesty, if CCP removed plex from the game, would you still play?

Could you find it in your heart to pay £9.99 no wait sorry 14.99e no wait i swear that e-mail said £9.99 who knows, ccp arnt sure....... Would you still play if you had to pay?

Why are you still here?

Haven't you been quitting for weeks now? For someone tired of the game, you sure aren't tired of the forums.

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Roisin Saoirse
Doomheim
#28 - 2012-06-03 15:42:12 UTC
I mostly paid for my main account with £, but my alt accounts were paid for with PLEX. If PLEX hadn't been around I'd have just stuck with a single account, so in answer to the OP yes and no. Big smile
sweetrock
#29 - 2012-06-03 15:43:02 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
sweetrock wrote:
In all honesty, if CCP removed plex from the game, would you still play?

Could you find it in your heart to pay £9.99 no wait sorry 14.99e no wait i swear that e-mail said £9.99 who knows, ccp arnt sure....... Would you still play if you had to pay?

Why are you still here?

Haven't you been quitting for weeks now? For someone tired of the game, you sure aren't tired of the forums.


it hasnt even been 2 weeks yet, and im jsut waiting for subscirptions to expire that is all.
Len Ross
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-06-03 16:00:19 UTC
No. I can't, so wouldn't. I'm unemployed now. 9.99 a month is a small fortune to me. I've more time than money right now.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#31 - 2012-06-03 16:02:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Akirei Scytale
Len Ross wrote:
No. I can't, so wouldn't. I'm unemployed now. 9.99 a month is a small fortune to me. I've more time than money right now.


Spend a whole lot more time actively seeking employment.

Unless you're a felon or something, it doesn't take all that long.
Josef Djugashvilis
#32 - 2012-06-03 16:05:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Josef Djugashvilis
Jame Jarl Retief wrote:
Honestly? No, no I wouldn't. Not 100% sure, but about 85% sure. I might come back, check out the latest expansion about twice a year, but that's about it.

It's the same deal as recently released Tera Online. I would play it if it was F2P. But at $15/mo, it's just not worth it. Note: I'm not saying I can't afford it, I'm saying that from a responsible consumer's point of view I can't justify throwing my money at an inferior product.

From where I'm sitting, decision-makers at CCP are their own worst enemy. The game could be very, VERY far ahead of where it is today, if they made simple, intelligent choices and made simple, intelligent modifications to the game. As it applies to EVE, I can't see myself spending money on an MMO that doesn't even have the ability to change the font or scale size. And no, I don't consider 100%-110%-125% and that's it a viable UI scaling system. I like to play on high resolution on big screen, and even at 125% it's still too damn small.

Until CCP starts fixing this very, very basic stuff that has been pretty much a standard feature for games post-2002, I don't see myself paying them for it. I'm not even talking "gankers vs miners" or the colossal failure that was Incarna. I mean very, very basic usability features.


At just under £10.00 per month, it would have to be a really terrible product not to be worth the money.

For me, the cost is just over that of two pints of Guinness which would take me less than an hour to drink, whereas for the same price I can play Eve pretty much 24/7 for a month.

But, each person has to decide for themselves I guess.

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Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#33 - 2012-06-03 16:06:17 UTC
The better question is; if CCP removed local would you still play?
Len Ross
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-06-03 16:07:01 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:


Unless you're a felon or something, it doesn't take all that long.


And there you have it. One little mistake.
Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#35 - 2012-06-03 16:09:06 UTC
Len Ross wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:


Unless you're a felon or something, it doesn't take all that long.


And there you have it. One little mistake.


Felonies don't tend to be "little" mistakes unless you were falsely convicted.
Ravan Hekki
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-06-03 16:09:22 UTC
Um i do pay to play.
Ituhata Saken
Killboard Padding Services
#37 - 2012-06-03 16:10:28 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Len Ross wrote:
Akirei Scytale wrote:


Unless you're a felon or something, it doesn't take all that long.


And there you have it. One little mistake.


Felonies don't tend to be "little" mistakes unless you were falsely convicted.


I swear she didn't look that young!

So close...
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#38 - 2012-06-03 16:11:44 UTC
Akirei Scytale wrote:
Len Ross wrote:
No. I can't, so wouldn't. I'm unemployed now. 9.99 a month is a small fortune to me. I've more time than money right now.


Spend a whole lot more time actively seeking employment.

Unless you're a felon or something, it doesn't take all that long.


In my country we have 35% unemployment for young, > 10% for the rest.
Who is over 30 and does not know some very good politician to corrupt, will never, never, NEVER find a job.

The "welfare state jobs" are only available past 55, so those between 30 and 55 are basically as good as dead.
There's a (usually 240 days) long unemployment subsidy but then you are on your own and also lose rights to pension.

So yes, it can take all that long.

What saved me is that I learned trading in EvE.

This let me learn trading in RL.

With RL trading earnings I can self employ AND pay PLEX.

So, EvE => PLEX => RL => PLEX => EvE P

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-06-03 16:12:29 UTC
Never bought a PLEX (or any other form of it) does that answer your question.

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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#40 - 2012-06-03 16:13:46 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:


In my country we have 35% unemployment for young, > 10% for the rest.
Who is over 30 and does not know some very good politician to corrupt, will never, never, NEVER find a job.

The "welfare state jobs" are only available past 55, so those between 30 and 55 are basically as good as dead.
There's a (usually 240 days) long unemployment subsidy but then you are on your own and also lose rights to pension.

So yes, it can take all that long.

What saved me is that I learned trading in EvE.

This let me learn trading in RL.

With RL trading earnings I can self employ AND pay PLEX.

So, EvE => PLEX => RL => PLEX => EvE P


Clever solution to your problem. Kudos.

Spain?