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Recommended Skills for SCORPION NAVY ISSUE
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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-03 07:42:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Ivy Romanova
Well, I made up my mind , and I bought the SNI
now , I know theres a saying in New Eden
if you aren't worthy , you will lose it
so I'm now wondering , what sort of skills do I need to fly a SNI properly?
how high do I have to go before I even think about wandering in 0.0 in a SNI?


PS: I bought the SNI before the hyper-inflation from burn Jita set in ,cos I thought ships prices are gonna soar
so its kinda too late saying , i should try something else first :P

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Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-06-03 08:25:28 UTC
Wandering in 0.0 with a BS is generally not the best of ideas since you have very little ability to escape.
The SNI is a tankier Raven. Take one of those in 0.0 first and see how you do.
Skiils needed are shieldtanking, cruise missiles (or torpedoes) and general fitting/nav skills.
Vito Antonio
Doomheim
#3 - 2012-06-03 08:29:35 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:

how high do I have to go before I even think about wandering in 0.0 in a SNI?

What is this I don't even
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#4 - 2012-06-03 09:07:24 UTC
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
Wandering in 0.0 with a BS is generally not the best of ideas since you have very little ability to escape.
The SNI is a tankier Raven. Take one of those in 0.0 first and see how you do.
Skiils needed are shieldtanking, cruise missiles (or torpedoes) and general fitting/nav skills.


so should i get them to lvl 4?
get to CORE standard?
come on ,give me something here

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Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2012-06-03 09:34:12 UTC
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
Wandering in 0.0 with a BS is generally not the best of ideas since you have very little ability to escape.
The SNI is a tankier Raven. Take one of those in 0.0 first and see how you do.
Skiils needed are shieldtanking, cruise missiles (or torpedoes) and general fitting/nav skills.


so should i get them to lvl 4?
get to CORE standard?
come on ,give me something here


The minimum I'ld say is lvl 4 except where you need 5 for T2 stuff or some relevant certificate to standard.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-06-03 10:11:07 UTC
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
Wandering in 0.0 with a BS is generally not the best of ideas since you have very little ability to escape.
The SNI is a tankier Raven. Take one of those in 0.0 first and see how you do.
Skiils needed are shieldtanking, cruise missiles (or torpedoes) and general fitting/nav skills.


so should i get them to lvl 4?
get to CORE standard?
come on ,give me something here


The minimum I'ld say is lvl 4 except where you need 5 for T2 stuff or some relevant certificate to standard.


so, I should get all the recommended skills for a regular scorpion + lvl 4 on those skills?

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Canabi
Destructive Influence
Northern Coalition.
#7 - 2012-06-03 10:43:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Canabi
First off, and not to be rude or condescending, but if you don't have the skills to properly fly a SNI, you shouldn't have bought one. Starting out big is not the way to do things. Start small, learn basic PvP tactics, get a feel for how the mechanics work and work your way up to larger ships. I don't think trying to solo in 0.0 with a BS, much less an expensive one, is a good idea.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-06-03 11:02:56 UTC
Canabi wrote:
First off, and not to be rude or condescending, but if you don't have the skills to properly fly a SNI, you shouldn't have bought one. Starting out big is not the way to do things. Start small, learn basic PvP tactics, get a feel for how the mechanics work and work your way up to larger ships. I don't think trying to solo in 0.0 with a BS, much less an expensive one, is a good idea.


not trying to
my corp has set up shop in a few system mainly to do PI and ice mining , I'm just gonna go clear some anomalies and go ratting in the SNI

pvp is still a LONGGGGG away ahead for me

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Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-06-03 11:11:37 UTC
A SNI is very different from a standard scorpion. Try the Raven first. If you like the Raven but want more tank, go for SNI.
Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#10 - 2012-06-03 11:15:04 UTC
Lunkwill Khashour wrote:
A SNI is very different from a standard scorpion. Try the Raven first. If you like the Raven but want more tank, go for SNI.


i heard SNI is like a bigger drake
LOTS OF TANK , ok dps , definition of afk pve
while the raven is a dps factory , but takes more micro and doesn't last as long on the font and is a bit more sp intensive than the SNI
am I right?

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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#11 - 2012-06-03 14:00:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Kara Books
I suggest u sell it and get your hands around an active tank Rattlesnake.

Much more tank, Much more DPS, range versatility.

I did my homework out the kazoo with CNR CNI, the rattle is superior in every way except the price.

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If its PvP you want to do in Scorpion, you gotta hit those ECM skills, otherwise its only a drop better then CNR for PvE and for PvP the CNR doesnt even come close to the legendary scorp hull.

As for the rattle, expect to train for about 1 year from scratch, shield tanking skills, 2 long battleship skills, All core missile skills t2 cruise and about 4M into drones from zero drone SP, quite skill intensive but every single skill is superb core skill material.

Gallante battleship+ drones
Cruise T2 = is right in the ally for the future carrier training.
2 battleship skills, dont think I need to xplain that one
Shield skills, another big one you really should get plenty of 5's
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-06-03 15:22:04 UTC
A T2 HM Drake is much better for ratting in 0.0. I'm not sure about anomalies since I've never done those. A battleship is slow to align and if you're navigation skills aren't really good it's even worse. All this adds up to you being on someone's killboard if you're not careful.
Velarra
#13 - 2012-06-03 19:12:32 UTC
With regard to the security level of space you're in [High, Low, Null, or J] and SP/Skill levels of a character: There's little in the way of SP -required- before you can fly X ship in X type of space.

For better or worse, the pivotal aspect isn't your ship or your character's SP, but more your own player/personal familiarity and knowledge related to surviving and flourishing in these various levels of secured/unsecured space.

Find a simple easy to lose ship of no value or consequence, go to X type of space you want to fly in and get used to flying in that environment. Look into learning how to generate safes, tacticals, docks, undocks, use probes, use d-scan, how to setup the overview / use eve's map, how to employ bubbles for your benefit & how to adapt to their presence.

From there, increase the stakes or overall quality of your ship until you are comfortable flying whatever ship you want to fly where ever you choose.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#14 - 2012-06-03 22:01:28 UTC
I would train some EFT skils and get a navy raven instead.

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Ivy Romanova
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-06-04 07:01:16 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
I would train some EFT skils and get a navy raven instead.


EFT?

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Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-06-04 08:21:13 UTC
Eve Fitting Tool

Google is your friend.


As for skills needed for an SNI

Make sure you're doing good on your basic skills before flying Battleships.

The good and the bad thing about the Drake is you can relativly easy fly it and kick some cans.

When you want to efectivly use battle ships you need propper skills.

Short version:

Look in you certificate planner and make sure all core certificate skills are at 4 or higher

Defence shield certificate skills at 4 or higher

Missile support skills at 4 and higher.

Don't forget Missile precision for some strange reason that is not in there.


An SNI is not a Big Drake or a Big Scorpion for that matter.

It's active tanked, you could make it cap stable perama active tanked if you're willing to spend a small fortune.

Riggs should be used for your launchers, tank you can handle from mid slots.

It's a very good ship, just don't confuse it with a Drake, but if propperly fit it can even out perform a CNR in certain situations.