EVE General Discussion

Sorry for the delay, had to go out to gymn.




No, my idea is an hybrid with the new crimewatch plus a moving average of how many times the potential ganker had suicided ganked in the last day. That would unlock FFA. Both parties would have choices and consequences.





The angular speed of those POS ships is like an old fat aunt trying to execute full contact. It'd require 20 bookmarks plus in ice fields it's not like in mineral belts, the roids are huge, close, the collision bubble is even larger so it's really easy to get stuck.

The "corral concord" is really a more practical solution. They can corral it away but hey, the miner got eyes (20 minutes AFKers can die as it should) to see concord being take away and then do 1 + 1.



Also, inc massive rant.


I'd like to recap my vision of EvE, which makes most elites cower in fear.


Premises

1) EvE is not an hard game, requires very little personal micromanagement skill. Most other PvP MMOs do. Other MMOs have true collision detection, others have active collision detection (GW2), most have line of sight based gameplay and much more.

2) EvE is not an hard core game. In DFO you have full gear looting and money looting.
In Entropia (space zone) FWIK you have full "gear" looting and since everything is RL money purchased you lose actual RL money on death.

3) EvE is made wrong. Most (not all) other PvP games don't have any sec. You leave your postcard sized camp, you are game and HTFU.


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Hi sec is the wrong and half assed, quickly slapped together CCP style game design choice of old.

Other PvP games don't have hi sec, are harsher yet despite that, a casual player can play them with less RL inconvenience and restrictions than EvE.

What does this have to do with this topic? Everything! By starting wrong and NPC controlled, every subsequent iteration has been a fight to keep the clusterf*ck somewhat hold itself together.
The more the time lapses, the more the emergent players find new and bigger holes in this duct tape framework. Then CCP applies more, worse and exaggerated patches.

How comes that in that half failure of WAR:AoR I can log in 5 (five) minutes, leave warcamp and immediately find people to kill? But not in the oh-so-pro PvP king EvE?
How comes that WAR had all of 1 tiny starter area with level 1-2 mobs and then you were fair game to PvPers but EvE NEEDS hi sec?
What about DFO? Even tinier starter area (camp) and then you are out to kill very hard first mobs and you are fair game to any level other player. But not EvE. Yet DFO caters more to the casual player?

Because EvE would needs to be broken (be it Mittani or someone else) and re-birth as a proper game with all the features.

- Hi sec would be like today 1.0, only accept up to T1 cruisers, only span 2-3 systems around the local starting area. Feel free to rot in there forever, nobody cares.

- Then you are out, in a player driven universe where players can enroll as cops (accepting special rules else they are flagged -10 and insta kicked), as mercs, as smugglers, whatever.

- Sec does not exist outside of it any more, period.

- No immediate local chat, it's delayed everywhere.

- Probing skills made quicker to learn.

- No NPCs except ***maybe*** personal NPC guards you can hire at emergency, they are vastly worse than players though, can be tanked and killed. They give some buffs (say a pair of ECM cycles) to the protegee.

- Where now there's hi sec, there will be a gradually improving space (we have it now already). At the center it sucks, at the fartest extremities the resources, NPCs etc. are -1 sec grade.

- Players get given radars and generally what you'd expect to get in a post 1990 game. There'd be modules both to disturb and enhance those radars.

- Minerals are a fundamental asset of the game. There'd be large-ish belts (way less than today, you WILL find enemies) in key systems (minerals quality improves going towards the outer systems) where players would fight over them.
There'd be a lot more also grav sites where less committed people could go mine roids and other grav sites with ice (type = by empire as today).

- Restrictions about caps bubbles would be like sec still existed (same restrictions of today). But low sec pockets in hi sec would become restricted like hi sec and generally the whole restrictions would be 3 concentric rings from the center outwards (imagine a dartboard).

- Stations would cast a 1 minute debuff on those who arrive and leave making them unable to shoot (used to perform basic tasks like unloading stuff, refitting, taking a mission...). After that minute you are fair game. Lolcanflips for duels no more.

- Incursions pay doubled, but hey, there's no hi sec to save anyone's butt any more...

- PvE combat content all changed to be done in PvP fitting. PvE combat content requires specific equipment to be scanned down. When invaded you can fight / die and then return to the agent and be able to have the pocket moved away so you don't lose the ongoing mission but only have to redo the last half done pocket inside it.


This is the sandbox I envision and would love. As you see, there is not a lot of carebear left, yet everyone would be glued to the game yet even casuals would stand a chance.

If you check my killboard you'll see I've only lost 2 or 3 Hulks in my life.

However that's because I've stopped mining since Hulkageddon V and have already pulled the plug on this account.

Actually that's the other person's proposal, not the OP's. There's no restrictions on the OP only how many accounts you use to make the video. The more the harder actually to survive not getting ganked. Unless you fly with shield logi.

Pay for a webcam for me and I will.

Otherwise take your own advice.

Edit: and I won't do it in Caldari space unless you pay me an exorbitant amount of ISK to take my Hulk 20 jumps. Or you supply the Hulk, in which case I will move there tonight.

Wow, this thread....

I just don't know what to say, I WANTED to say some stuff, but it just seems that this thread is far to silly.

Also, someone more motivated than me should report OP for spamming with his posts containing NOTHING but the words 'PUT UP OR SHUT UP'.

Just sayin'

1) Nobody claims HS mining profits are great.

2) I uploaded a pair of Videos already.

3) The videos you demand likely violate the EULA's prohibition on RL identification.

4) Deposit your ISK with a trusted 3rd party and you might get a response. Time to Put Up or Shut Up yourself.

Now put your "prize" money in the hands of a 3rd party and PUT UP OR SHUT UP, as you so eloquently put it.

Yeah, but I don't believe OP actually intends to produce the isk for anyone.

I upped it to 100,000,000 and I'll give you the ISk if you wish to hold it.

Sure, what are the terms and conditions for release to the beneficiary?