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Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-06-03 13:18:39 UTC
Why was the most general discussion about locals detriment to the game moved to features and ideas? And then no dev post about it just a discrete transfer. Thats funny. It was fine for the first 40 pages then suddenly it isn't.

I see dev post in threads with far less discussion and in spite of having approaching triple digit likes its ignored as if NO ONE agrees with it and then buried. Not even so much as hey we hear ya but this or that, nothing. Just ignored and then sent to a inundated forum where no real discussion is going to be had.

I mean what can really be a general discussion about EVE? The moment you enter in any particular direction its going to fall into some obscure subforum.

The detriment of Local chat to EVEs gameplay is not a feature or an idea. Its a statement. One with easily conveyable points. Maybe we should determine the definition of general.

General - Adjective:

Affecting or concerning all or most people, places, or things; widespread: "books of general interest".

I do believe local chat covers that. And certainly local removal can fall under an idea label. But im not naive enough to fall for that. You fear having to make a choice when an idea gains popularity and you want it buried. Well theres alot more interesting conversations that can be had about EVE aside from local chat, you remember that.

And your forums aren't the only place to have them.
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-06-03 13:19:49 UTC
Because you're clearly the genius who first came up with the idea of removing local and there haven't been hundreds of threads on these forums about removing local

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#3 - 2012-06-03 13:21:20 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Why was the most general discussion about locals detriment to the game moved to features and ideas? And then no dev post about it just a discrete transfer. Thats funny. It was fine for the first 40 pages then suddenly it isn't.

I see dev post in threads with far less discussion and in spite of having approaching triple digit likes its ignored as if NO ONE agrees with it and then buried. Not even so much as hey we hear ya but this or that, nothing. Just ignored and then sent to a inundated forum where no real discussion is going to be had.

I mean what can really be a general discussion about EVE? The moment you enter in any particular direction its going to fall into some obscure subforum.

The detriment of Local chat to EVEs gameplay is not a feature or an idea. Its a statement. One with easily conveyable points. Maybe we should determine the definition of general.

General - Adjective:

Affecting or concerning all or most people, places, or things; widespread: "books of general interest".

I do believe local chat covers that. And certainly local removal can fall under an idea label. But im not naive enough to fall for that. You fear having to make a choice when an idea gains popularity and you want it buried. Well theres alot more interesting conversations that can be had about EVE aside from local chat, you remember that.

And your forums aren't the only place to have them.



Local chat is a feature of the game, discussions about its impact and possible ways to change it would indeed belong in features and ideas. Working as intended.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-06-03 13:22:47 UTC
Cry some more.

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2012-06-03 13:24:31 UTC
Must be nice sitting in the devs alliance talking trash.
Darth Tickles
Doomheim
#6 - 2012-06-03 13:36:46 UTC
Features and ideas thread gets moved to features and ideas section.

Drooly complains.
Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2012-06-03 13:38:19 UTC
Because forums are dictatorships and moderators are the kings.


Get used to it.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-06-03 13:38:44 UTC
Darth Tickles wrote:
Features and ideas thread gets moved to features and ideas section.

Drooly complains.


Nah it was general discussion for 40 pages. It was moved there to be buried because they realized I wasn't going to get bored.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2012-06-03 13:40:39 UTC
"I'm a misunderstood genious, if only the stupid moderators and stupid developers would understand!!! Damn fascists for moving my thread!"

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#10 - 2012-06-03 13:41:44 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Darth Tickles wrote:
Features and ideas thread gets moved to features and ideas section.

Drooly complains.


Nah it was general discussion for 40 pages. It was moved there to be buried because they realized I wasn't going to get bored.



Yes, that's the reason, of course. Nothing to do with the fact that maybe it just got over looked until someone actually went in and looked at the threads content. Any thread of that kind, left on GD for too long just becomes a troll thread full of whiners. So by moving it to the correct section of the forums CCP are trying to keep the thread ON topic and of some use, rather than letting it descend in to ship toasting and an eventual lock.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Rajan Marelona
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2012-06-03 13:42:13 UTC
In before lock for discussing moderation.
Also, what everybody else just said.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-06-03 13:42:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
Lord Zim wrote:
"I'm a misunderstood genious, if only the stupid moderators and stupid developers would understand!!! Damn fascists for moving my thread!"


Zim you're a -----Edit----- | ISD Tyrozan a factor or even well known.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2012-06-03 13:43:53 UTC
Why don't you rail some more against local about it?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#14 - 2012-06-03 13:47:19 UTC
Caliph Muhammed wrote:
Lord Zim wrote:
"I'm a misunderstood genious, if only the stupid moderators and stupid developers would understand!!! Damn fascists for moving my thread!"


Zim you're a awkward sub par intellect nobody in an alliance that runs a game of carebears. You aren't important, significant, a factor or even well known.




You just made yourself look really silly by the way Caliph. Lord Zim was poking fun at the OP. It's called sarcasm.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
#15 - 2012-06-03 13:50:07 UTC
The thing is this: Local has worked just fine for 10 years.

When someone says it's suddenly a 'detriment', that is specious.

Moved appropriately IMHO.

Actually, a new sub-Forum called "Out of Mind Experience" would be apt.

***
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#16 - 2012-06-03 13:51:51 UTC
Many people are naive lemmings. Don't be one.
Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#17 - 2012-06-03 13:52:11 UTC
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:
The thing is this: Local has worked just fine for 10 years.

When someone says it's suddenly a 'detriment', that is specious.

Moved appropriately IMHO.

Actually, a new sub-Forum called "Out of Mind Experience" would be apt.


Much as it pains me to agree with you, it seems that even you are capable of posting something right once in a while. +1 for an "Out of Mind Experience" section.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2012-06-03 13:52:46 UTC
Local can stay another 20 years it doesnt mean its not killing every aspect of the game that was listed in the OP from that thread.
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2012-06-03 13:55:00 UTC
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:
The thing is this: Local has worked just fine for 10 years.

When someone says it's suddenly a 'detriment', that is specious.

The reason's pretty easy to see if you just read absolutely all of his posts: he wants it to be much, much easier to be a ganker, and to hell with the effects on the rest of the game.

Don't bring that up, though, or "you're wrong", "that's just, like, your opinion, man" and "that's not proven!"

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-06-03 13:56:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Caliph Muhammed
Truth - removing local will hurt RMTs. Thats the motivation. The ability to actually die will prevent botters and such from farming isk to launder into plex to launder in to cash.

Suck on that lemmings.
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