Jita Park Speakers Corner

Its either an error or they are trying to get rid of alt corps. With the new wardec system you are now better off to have most of your alts in your primary corp.

As much as the current sov system sucks, it doesn't create a disparity between systems like POCO sov would.

Halving the jump range on capitals would be interesting but let's not mislead ourselves into believing that it'd be any significant nerf to force projection.

Defenders already have inherent advantages - if it's their home territory (like Goonswarm in Deklein) they have a logistical advantage, for example.

Industry needs a massive revamp in nullsec because the only worthwhile activity is building supercaps, and that's because it's the only place where you can build them.

As far as moons go, my opinion is that you should need racial moon minerals from Serpentis regions to produce Gallente/ORE T2, minerals from Guristas regions to produce Caldari T2, minerals from Angels regions to produce Minmatar T2 and minerals from Sansha/Blood Raiders regions to produce Amarr T2. Note that I'm not saying that the moons should only be in regions where those factions have sovereignty, but where the NPCs spawn in belts.

I believe the disparity would be a good think for instance in Deklein, the 2 best areas actually have the lowest number of planets. The lowest being -1.00 with 3 planets. So with this as a Sov system the systems Map UJY-HE and RG9-7U would probably turn over a lot. The highest number of planets in Deklein is 13 in CCP-US a -0.94 system.

Using this system would give the sov system variety rather than just having to kill 1 thing with a massive number of HP.
Perrigen Falls for another example goes from 5 planets up to 13 planets so this would once again add variety as well as introduce tactics instead of just brute force into the game.

The idea on the moon materials is not bad at all except the whole tree would have to be redone to accommodate it.

On Jump drives I will admit I am torn between the ideas of a distance reduction or a delay for movement after warp.

The trouble with Null, is that people just don't want to BE there … it's got nothing to do with ISK or SAFETY.

People forget that the most important commodity of the game, what makes new players stay or leave, isn't monetary or territorial capital … but rather, SOCIAL CAPITAL …. And Nullsec completely SUCKS at this.

In Hisec & Wormholes (Losec is irrelvant evidently) you can build tight knit corps with pilots who know and care about each other. In Null, you generally become nothing more than a member of a faceless blob. Even if you try to take your small corp into Null as a renter, you're still basically living at the whim of some wanna-be Hitler (either on your side or the other, probably both) who doesn't know or care that you even exist, and who can destroy anything your small corp might build up in a nanosecond.

If Nullsec could be made to provide significant amounts of missing SOCIAL CAPITAL, not offered by Hisec or Losec, maybe THEN people would want to move there.

When it comes down to it, Nullsec today is just not a game most people care to play ….

So on the subject of power projection.

Every cap fleet I have ever been in in null usually consisted of 50+ carriers and dreads. And every one of us had a cyno alt, just to move our own crap around on our own. And whenever the FC wanted to get everyone across the universe he'd pull up dotlan, scout a route, and tell a few of us to get our cyno alts at the midpoints.

All cutting the jump range in half would do is take a trip that would have normally taken 4 cyno alts then take 8 cyno alts. This isn't a very big deal when you have 50+ caps on field who have 50+ cyno alts.

Titan bridging is the one area where I could see a jump range nerf having any effect. This would help end the process of a titan sitting at a POS, bridging a fleet, and then scooting back into the POS. An attacker would have to set up more POSes along the route, or actually jump his titan with the fleet to keep the bridging chain going, but without the safety of a POS shield.

If you really want to **** off cap pilots and make deployments costly. Double the size of all fuel bays, and double all fuel consumption. Their costs would double right away, and ice prices would go up with the added consumption. Make it a major investment to move a blob across the galaxy.


That's based on how much your stuff can be threatened by distant empires.

In lowsec / highsec you only really have to worry about your immediate neighbors, anything you lose can be regained eventually, and it's harder for larger groups to hold smaller ones hostage. The size of the blob is usually entirely dependent on how charismatic the leaders are.

In null it's easy to be held hostage. Someone 2 regions away can easily threaten to take your space, and blow up your tech moons, which would effectively be a death blow to most alliances. This is why there are massive NIP empires. Loyalty is less about charismatic leaders and more about the threat of getting curb stomped.

Fix the blob and this problem goes away.

So the formula for a PoCo reinforcement timer is:

(X number of days) + (H amount of hours to hit the set reinforcement window)

Right now X is 1. We'd just need to slide that value up a bit until people feel comfortable.

Right now in theory if you had an entirely US timezone alliance that all took off a three day weekend over Thanksgiving or something. Then all their space could be quietly taken over by a handful of Russian dread pilots who don't care about your deep fried turkeys.

Maybe 2 days is a bit brutal. If we set X to 2 or 3 days then you'd have half a week to get things sorted out. Granted we'd want to keep it fairly low, otherwise we'd get the same power projection / safety problems we have now.


That's true. There is always a bit of an isk disparity between different alliances. A 10 bil purchase means different things to people with tech moons than people without tech moons.

But 2 hours of your life always costs the same no matter who you are.

And now the pipe dream has it's own thread
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=117189&find=unread

1. could be tweaked a bit, but uneven distribution does create a conflict driver, perfectly balanced tech distribution would remove a conflict driver.

2. could be tweaked a tad, but you still need good space and bad space to encourage conflict over the good space.

3. agree, needs to be adjusted, taking sov should still be a major undertaking, but needs less boring structure shoots.

4. disagree completely, huge fleet fights are a selling point of EVE (and thanks to tidi you can actually pull them off now), its something you simply dont get in any other game, and nullsec is where they happen.

5. there is absolutely nothing you can do to change this, "deal with it", there is no way you can stop one alliance from befriending another if they have common interests.

6. If you cant defend it, you dont deserve it. Nullsec is the sandbox at its largest scale, the logistics of running a large sov empire is a game in and of iteself. There needs to be a different system for smaller corps to have some type of holding (either through a lowsec improvement or a major improvement to wormholes)

There are plenty of things to do beside POS shooting blobs. If your alliance can't come up with anything, that isn't CCP's problem. This is supposed to be player driven content, and I don't know about you, but my alliance is constantly running roams, camps, and harassment ops for small groups in small ships.

You want CCP to come up with content? That is what missions are.

You want to be in a small band of guerrillas, running around enemy territory, disrupting shipping and ratting tax revenue, then go for it. Nothing is stopping you except your own laziness and ignorance.

If only there was a class of ship that could bypass stargates and carry cargo. IF ONLY.