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Did CCP ever fix that tracking exploit? Is this kill impossible?
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NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#1 - 2012-06-01 21:05:44 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Ok here's the situation.

I am in a Jaguar (assault frigate) the tank fit is as follows.


  • Damage Control t2
  • 2x Medium shield extenders t2
  • 2x core defence purgers t2 riggs


Now the war target is in a tornado and kills me in one shot with t1 scout artillary from 60km away...
Is that even possible? my sig radios was so low, i did not have my mwd on and i was moving..

Anyone know if that tracking exploit has re-surfaced?

Thanks for your time guys, i used a Jag as i thought it would be more fun killing the tornado with that due to its low sig radius..

..
Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2012-06-01 21:06:39 UTC
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#3 - 2012-06-01 21:10:51 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Angular_velocity


Thanks for the reply, but still even gong of that the war target should not have been able to 1 shot a minmatar assault frigate with large t1 guns from 60k away..

I went 1v1 with a t2 fitted zealot and that even had trouble getting my Assault frigs shields down..

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Darius Brinn
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-06-01 21:52:34 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Blawrf McTaggart wrote:
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Angular_velocity


Thanks for the reply, but still even gong of that the war target should not have been able to 1 shot a minmatar assault frigate with large t1 guns from 60k away..

I went 1v1 with a t2 fitted zealot and that even had trouble getting my Assault frigs shields down..


The Alpha from a 1400 arty Tornado is MONSTRUOUS.

I see Tornados one-shotting ANY kind of frigates every day. Also, Meta 4 guns with Faction ammo offer you comparable performance to T2 (more or less).

If the get you with low transversal velocity, or worse, if you turn on your MWD and approach the Tornado directly, you WILL be killed in one vollety most of the time.

The tank in the frigate is irrelevant, unless you can squeeze 8 or 10K HP or the Tornado pilot is not properly skilled.
Lady Spank
Get Out Nasty Face
#5 - 2012-06-01 22:10:53 UTC
It's entirely plausible that you simply got blapped. The purgers are worthless versus alpha and your sig ratio will not actually be low with dual MSE's.

What was your angular and how fast were you actually moving.

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Sverige Pahis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-06-01 23:22:22 UTC
You have the signature radius of a small moon, even if you were tightly orbitting the zealot which I presume you were at 60k tracking fit the tornado will track you. It doesn't need a full quality hit to one shot you, either.
Samuel Wess
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-06-01 23:23:46 UTC
Tornado can also choose damage type to your lowest resists while Zealot has EM/TH that are your highest resists.

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Kara Books
Deal with IT.
#8 - 2012-06-01 23:39:22 UTC
If you move in a straight line, you will be popped as-well.
GreenSeed
#9 - 2012-06-02 02:45:04 UTC
im guessing you think that being at range from him was actually something on your side... it wasnt, he had a mayor advantage due to that. if you were orbiting his ass at 3km, he could never track you with artys. being at 60km from him made you maximum angular velocity, with the mwd off, so low that you might as well stand still.

you could have had a better chance to stay alive if your mwd was on, even with the sig penalty, he still couldnt track your speed. just slowly change the orbit till you get closer. also, the MWDs on AFs have a role bonus!
uwai223
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2012-06-02 10:20:39 UTC  |  Edited by: uwai223
Don't believe the nerds in this thread, they just don't want their tracking exploit fixed...blapping someone at 60km yeah right as if that was possible without cheating. I'd say you petition this and you should probably try to escalate the ticket, as some GMs are in on this I hear.

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uwai223
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-06-02 10:27:11 UTC
Also that jag fit is really really terrible.

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Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#12 - 2012-06-02 10:39:14 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Ok here's the situation.

I am in a Jaguar (assault frigate) the tank fit is as follows.


  • Damage Control t2
  • 2x Medium shield extenders t2
  • 2x core defence purgers t2 riggs


my sig radios was so low


At this point, you might aswell have been a BC with the EHP of an untanked cruiser.

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im mrmessy
Woolloomooloo Sheep Dip
#13 - 2012-06-02 13:28:34 UTC
A wise man once said "Stationary objects do not react well to 1400s"
Alexandra Delarge
The Korova
#14 - 2012-06-02 16:03:02 UTC
OP fits 2 SMALL SHIELD EXTENDERS on a Jag and thinks that he lost his ship because of an exploit.
Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts.
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#15 - 2012-06-02 16:07:27 UTC
uwai223 wrote:
Don't believe the nerds in this thread, they just don't want their tracking exploit fixed...blapping someone at 60km yeah right as if that was possible without cheating. I'd say you petition this and you should probably try to escalate the ticket, as some GMs are in on this I hear.


I can't tell if trolling or just tinfoil hat. Either way, I lol`d.

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Blawrf McTaggart
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2012-06-02 19:37:36 UTC
nerds
Waylan Yutani
SkyLark Insurgency
#17 - 2012-06-02 20:51:36 UTC
always come in at an angle, and always keep moving
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#18 - 2012-06-02 21:16:06 UTC
Waylan Yutani wrote:
always come in at an angle, and always keep moving



I tried that and she slapped me.

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Aldeskwatso
Primus Societas
Crimson Interstellar Alliance
#19 - 2012-06-02 23:08:09 UTC
I'm not an PvP expert or anything but the concept and effects of angular velocity and increased sig radius from shield stuffs got stomped into me pretty early.

Flying in a Jag with increased sig radius at 60KM from a Tornado with 1400's is playing to the Tornado's strength. At that distance your relative angular velocity would practically be non excistant. A one shot pop I wouldn't know about but it could be possible. Under the circumstances you wouldn't have enjoyed a long and happy life at that distance anyway.

Take it in, reflect and learn from it.

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Cedo Nulli
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2012-06-02 23:23:44 UTC
Looking at the OPs char pic ... Im quite sure this was a troll.
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