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Jokerface666
Intergalactic Expeditionary Corp
#21 - 2011-10-05 15:12:34 UTC
woooooow..... "Character with low enough sec status shouldn't allowed into high security empire space at all"

hello kitty online is somwhere else dude....
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#22 - 2011-10-05 15:13:23 UTC
Thorn Galen wrote:
Zenith Intaki wrote:
Character with low enough sec status shouldn't allowed into high security empire space at all. I am fine with suicide ganking when character has neutral or high sec status, but it's just bad for the game that -10.00 sec status player can do 50 ganks per day if he wants to.

Concord should terminate their pod and ship straigth away and remove their clone into closest lowsec station without cloning facility.

And no, I can't mine ice.


I meant to stick that in my last post.
Most of you posting here are not reading the "-10" part.
The rest of the stuff you are inventing in your own mind.



you mean where we evade faction police designed to be evadable? you poor baby

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#23 - 2011-10-05 15:15:12 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Thorn Galen wrote:
Oh dear, I seem to be upsetting the players who like the exploit just as it is and will say anything to brush away the truth.

Most popular mode of retort among a lot of forum posters comprise of snide remarks, insults and general attempts at belittlement and denigration. I feel sorry for you. I will not enter into further discussion with unarmed folks.

Oh wait, you say "these are forums, that's what forums are for."

" Stop being so self-righteous" So funny coming from the self-righteous Big smile

Please take the bait, you'll just further cement my theory.

I'll leave this thread now and just remark in passing - point proven.

It's an exploit.



mommy make the bad man stop


You should post more.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#24 - 2011-10-05 15:18:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Thorn Galen wrote:
Most of you posting here are not reading the "-10" part.


It is INTENDED game mechanics that a -10 player can enter highsec if he choses. He has to suffer the fact that anyone and everyone can shoot him, and the faction police will spawn within about 3 seconds, wherever he goes.

Where is the exploit?
Did he
a) Find a way to stop you pointing his ship?
b) Find a way to stop you shooting his ship?
c) Find a way to stop CONCORD from destroying his ship?
d) Find a way to evade the faction police indefinitely?

Please post the exact exploit, please.

Them being a "bad man" is not an exploit, FYI.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Serial Chi
White Knights of Equestria
#25 - 2011-10-05 15:18:35 UTC
if ccp took away their invulnerability when undocking in high sec stations and their cloak when jumping high sec gates, this wouldn't be an issue anymore.

fact is ccp isnt good at risk vs reward. if ccp were good, you wouldn't see scammers who never have to leave their stations have such fat wallets.

make a macro to spam your scam all day long, come back to the pc, instant riches, no risk whatsoever.

gg

RISK vs REWARD needs rebalancing.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#26 - 2011-10-05 15:18:51 UTC
If you have the balls to run in high sec at neg ten, you should have the opportunity to try it.

You should not, however, be invulnerable.

Making gates not function for flashy pods would be a good compromise to my thinking. If you are in a ship you get through. If you are in a pod you don't.

That is the only way to make bounty hunting a viable profession while still still giving criminal scum a chance at survival.

Mr Epeen Cool
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#27 - 2011-10-05 15:22:07 UTC
Serial Chi wrote:
fact is players arent good at risk vs reward. if players were good, you wouldn't see players who never have to leave their stations get scammed out of their fat wallets

I fixed your typos

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#28 - 2011-10-05 15:30:45 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:

You should post more.

i'm posting as fast as I can!

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Serial Chi
White Knights of Equestria
#29 - 2011-10-05 15:35:20 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Serial Chi wrote:
fact is players arent good at risk vs reward. if players were good, you wouldn't see players who never have to leave their stations get scammed out of their fat wallets

I fixed your typos



you obviously don't understand how the risk vs reward system is SUPPOSED to work. there's all the risk for one side. theres no risk for the other side.

broken
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#30 - 2011-10-05 15:43:30 UTC
Serial Chi wrote:
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Serial Chi wrote:
fact is players arent good at risk vs reward. if players were good, you wouldn't see players who never have to leave their stations get scammed out of their fat wallets

I fixed your typos



you obviously don't understand how the risk vs reward system is SUPPOSED to work. there's all the risk for one side. theres no risk for the other side.

broken


There's no risk at all for one side, unless you're ******** enough to be scammable.

If the other side is truly using a bot, they risk permanent bans.

But, they're not using bots in most cases. If you try engaging them in conversation, they're there.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Serial Chi
White Knights of Equestria
#31 - 2011-10-05 15:46:39 UTC
ok say they are there. sitting there spamming ctrl + v. they just scammed someone. wheres the scammer's risk?
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#32 - 2011-10-05 15:47:22 UTC
we gots much better scams than your pathetic jita scams

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2011-10-05 15:47:43 UTC
so if i sit in a SEBO'd thrasher with arties i can kill these mean pirates that appear red? no matter the ship or pod or w/e?

cause i always thought that concord would kill me, even if they are red, unless flashing.

this could be a valid thing to do, completely gate and station camp a system of space to protect a huge mining fleet from the goon suicide force. if ice prices climb high enough ( which they wont) this would be worth it
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#34 - 2011-10-05 16:28:06 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
so if i sit in a SEBO'd thrasher with arties i can kill these mean pirates that appear red? no matter the ship or pod or w/e?
Unless you have changed the colour settings, red = valid target, whether it is is blinking or not.
CCP Zymurgist
C C P
C C P Alliance
#35 - 2011-10-05 17:32:29 UTC
Moved from General Discussion

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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#36 - 2011-10-05 17:34:08 UTC
Police only provide punishment,

You must provide protection!

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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2011-10-05 19:55:38 UTC
this is good... i might shoot at goons for the hell of it. i bet i turn red to them then though right.
Feligast
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2011-10-05 20:45:18 UTC
Herping yourDerp wrote:
this is good... i might shoot at goons for the hell of it. i bet i turn red to them then though right.


I'm sure you do, yeah. But you get the first shot, soo....
Solinuas
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2011-10-05 20:58:11 UTC
And no, i dont think you get corp agression, and really all you need to do is get a huge tank and point them until concord has fun (although assisting ganks is more amusing)
Spr09
Abyssal Echoes
Invidia Gloriae Comes
#40 - 2011-10-05 21:15:30 UTC
Zenith Intaki wrote:
Character with low enough sec status shouldn't allowed into high security empire space at all. I am fine with suicide ganking when character has neutral or high sec status, but it's just bad for the game that -10.00 sec status player can do 50 ganks per day if he wants to.

Concord should terminate their pod and ship straigth away and remove their clone into closest lowsec station without cloning facility.

And no, I can't mine ice.

u mad bro?

btw, this is eve and not hello kitty wonderland! you you die, buy a ship, kill them back, and get war dec'd by mercs and then get fleets together and get lots of fun killmails! problem solved!
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