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How do Womrholes compare to 0.0?
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Leontyne Gaterau
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2012-06-01 05:13:48 UTC
W-space is as fun as you make it. If you want to blap random Drakes and shoot structures while hoping that their cap fleet is smaller than your cap fleet, null k-space is for you. If you'd rather spend the time hunting and rolling, its way the **** better.
QT McWhiskers
EdgeGamers
#22 - 2012-06-01 05:36:11 UTC
Qui Shon
Lone Wolf Freelancers
#23 - 2012-06-01 06:36:10 UTC
Cybus Max wrote:
theres no blobs for a start.


http://i.imgur.com/lyCKC.gif
Tasiv Deka
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2012-06-01 06:42:11 UTC
QT McWhiskers wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/6mhPu.jpg

i love that picture

Oh, Do go on... no seriously ive got nothing better to do then listen to all the petty arguments and feeble trolling attempts... 

The sad thing is i'm not sure if i'm telling the truth.
Dorn Val
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2012-06-01 06:47:08 UTC
I was on vacation for 8 days in May and still managed to do over 5 billion ISK in damage. There are a wide range of skill levels and play styles in W space, from hard core PVPers to idiot carebears who act like they are in high sec (love to shoot them in the face). I play a few hours a day during the week, and a little more on the weekends. You could do what we do: Get into Stealth Bombers, scan down worm holes, and go diving in to them cloaked looking for targets. You could definitely get your PVP on without a huge investment in time.

I came back from vacation a few days ago and was too late to get in on a low sec / NPC null AHAC roam that the alliance was going on, so I just camped our high sec wormhole and listened to the op on Team Speak. In the two hours I was online I ran one guy out of our C2, and took out a Heron and the podded the pilot. I ended up seeing more action than the guys on the roam...

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Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#26 - 2012-06-01 07:22:51 UTC
Stop flying about in your shitfest blobs then.

You might not find a lot of engagable solo pvp in WH space but from the nullsec you are living in there is C5's, LOTS of them...c5's have plenty of nullsecs spawn in them or plenty of outbound.

Fastest way to get out of the blueclusterfuck of fail your living in to go pvp.
Hidden Fremen
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#27 - 2012-06-01 07:45:03 UTC
Dorn Val wrote:
I was on vacation for 8 days in May and still managed to do over 5 billion ISK in damage. There are a wide range of skill levels and play styles in W space, from hard core PVPers to idiot carebears who act like they are in high sec (love to shoot them in the face). I play a few hours a day during the week, and a little more on the weekends. You could do what we do: Get into Stealth Bombers, scan down worm holes, and go diving in to them cloaked looking for targets. You could definitely get your PVP on without a huge investment in time.

I came back from vacation a few days ago and was too late to get in on a low sec / NPC null AHAC roam that the alliance was going on, so I just camped our high sec wormhole and listened to the op on Team Speak. In the two hours I was online I ran one guy out of our C2, and took out a Heron and the podded the pilot. I ended up seeing more action than the guys on the roam...


Sounds dreadful, honestly. Wormholes suck.
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#28 - 2012-06-01 07:56:21 UTC
Rall Mekin wrote:
Denidil,

We are recruiting. If you fly US TZ prime, convo me sometime.


Dont, they are seriously terrible
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2012-06-01 11:08:50 UTC
Qui Shon wrote:
Cybus Max wrote:
theres no blobs for a start.


http://i.imgur.com/lyCKC.gif


youve never been to null have you?

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Ice Poljus
#30 - 2012-06-01 12:39:04 UTC
Denidil wrote:
So the part of Eve i really like is lawless space, i go into high sec occasionally for money, or to park my arse when i am inactive.. but i much prefer 0.0 to high sec ... well because i like shooting **** :P

the problem i had with 0.0 space is that it would eat my life 6+ hour fleet ops to find absolutely nothing to shoot .. or 6+ fleet op where were get to shoot only a few things.


how does w-space compare? can you get away with just playing for a few hours here or there.. get some pew pew in, or maybe some sites if there isn't any easily accessible enemy activity around?

well it depends... wh's are more profitable if u know how to work them but their very corp trust based an i found wh corps are super paranoid cuz of not being able to dock ships n anyone can steal them easily. 0.0 if ure in a big alliance like my main (not cfc so hault flaming lol) its better for op's and social part n such
Cybus Max
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#31 - 2012-06-01 13:41:55 UTC
Qui Shon wrote:
Cybus Max wrote:
theres no blobs for a start.


http://i.imgur.com/lyCKC.gif


QUI i realize that yours and my idea of a blob are two different things however w-space has become more popular since the hayday of CCRES however it is still fairly small gangs nothing compared to the blob fest of 0.0 their idea of a fairly small to medium fleet is our idea of a massive fleet. it's time to move on w-space has changed it will never be how it was before.
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#32 - 2012-06-01 16:23:51 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
If you think there arent enough targets in nullsec, you should stay well clear of WHs.
Theyre more about the thrill of the hunt than the actual fight.

If youre the kind of guy who sticks around for 8 hours to get a covops kill with a well laid trap EG, then theyre perfect for you.
If you just want to log on for an hour and go roam around and blow some **** up and get blown up, join red vs. blue or stay in null.



Jack is right.

The other angle on this is that WH corps don't want a guy who logs on and says "whats happening?" -- we want people to log on and be able to help make it happen. You'll not be appreciated if your contribution doesn't ever extend beyond X'ing up for whatever someone else has going on.

Hunting for target(s) in WHs can take hours, and it's work the whole time (rolling statics, scanning, waiting around watching Dscan) -- and sometimes the PVP isn't anything fun, like needing to camp and trap someone's scan alt for 5 hours.

Overall it sounds like you want something like faction warfare or RvB -- potentially the former if you want to make ISK.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#33 - 2012-06-01 16:32:21 UTC
n.b. the whole "no blobs" thing is an outright myth; you're just less likely to encounter them, as you are less likely to encounter anyone at all.

Your 10man roaming BC gang does about as well against 20 T3's with Guardian support as you would against 6 supercaps.

What IS true, is that you can plan for this and anticipate it, and you can win the rock-paper-scissors game since the other guy can't press F5 for a cyno.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#34 - 2012-06-01 16:42:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Apolyon I
being blobbed is fun, what are you talking about??

I'm not so good but this guy is absolutely awesome

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13384585

roam 0.0 is pretty fun unless you don't know what you're doing and die right after you jump your first gate!!!!!
Klarion Sythis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-06-01 16:56:16 UTC
Apolyon I wrote:
being blobbed is fun, what are you talking about??

I'm not so good but this guy is absolutely awesome

http://kb.eveaquila.com/?a=kill_related&kll_id=23435

roam 0.0 is pretty fun unless you don't know what you're doing and die right after you jump your first gate!!!!!


That's the second link from you guys that hasn't worked for me today. Anyone else having that problem or should I go back over my phone and get a new one?
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#36 - 2012-06-01 17:00:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Apolyon I
Klarion Sythis wrote:
Apolyon I wrote:
being blobbed is fun, what are you talking about??

I'm not so good but this guy is absolutely awesome

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=13384585

roam 0.0 is pretty fun unless you don't know what you're doing and die right after you jump your first gate!!!!!


That's the second link from you guys that hasn't worked for me today. Anyone else having that problem or should I go back over my phone and get a new one?

somehow that doesn't work for me, too.

I'll go rage to Gnaw, he's our technician

EDIT: I change it to eve-kill, hope it works
Klarion Sythis
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-06-01 19:39:32 UTC
I'll keep an eye out for the fix. I still want to see what Gnaw's doctored BRs look like.

Nice kill btw.
Longinius Spear
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#38 - 2012-06-01 21:06:05 UTC
I can spend about 2 hours going from high sec to high sec and finding holes to pop in. I can usually find action in atleast 2 of the holes i find. Most of the time you find empty pos.. but sometimes you hit gold and see wrecks on scan.

Sometimes you see ships but they are just pos'ed up with pilots in them.. and if your with a crew.. time to bait with an alt.

For solo pvp, i have much more fun in w-holes

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Qui Shon
Lone Wolf Freelancers
#39 - 2012-06-02 12:17:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Qui Shon
Tasiv Deka wrote:
QT McWhiskers wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/6mhPu.jpg

i love that picture


I love that pic too. But W-space has clearly moved more towards 0.0, with less free for all. Way too much co-operation between the big boys, and too much alliance level rather then corp level action, for that pic to hold true anymore.


Cybus Max wrote:
Qui Shon wrote:
Cybus Max wrote:
theres no blobs for a start.


http://i.imgur.com/lyCKC.gif


QUI i realize that yours and my idea of a blob are two different things however w-space has become more popular since the hayday of CCRES however it is still fairly small gangs nothing compared to the blob fest of 0.0 their idea of a fairly small to medium fleet is our idea of a massive fleet. it's time to move on w-space has changed it will never be how it was before.


Tchh. Like any old codger I will smoke my pipe in my rocking chair and tell the whippersnappers to get off my lawn, and how everything was better in the good old days. Why would you take issue with this?
Just because I may have to eventually adapt to the new blobby nature of high class w-space ;) doesn't mean I can't call 'em as I sees them.


Khan'rs-something, now he's got the jist of it in post #33, and that is how the difference should be explained.
Apolyon I
Shadow of ISW
#40 - 2012-06-02 16:09:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Apolyon I
noone wants to be outgunned, outnumbered, that's why we see wh fleet getting bigger and bigger

prop to russian first cus they never bring any fleet smaller than 20

last time I saw Starbridge, they brought 35 guys to fight 7,8 guys from Insidious Design. the only thing we could do back there is team up with insidious design or else we'll be blobbed 3:1

that'd answer your concern, Qui
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