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Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#61 - 2012-06-01 22:05:03 UTC
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

1.Do whatever the hell you please because this is a sandbox PVP game and pretty much everyone knows the rules.




First up I fixed your leaking diaper of a thread. And secondly, it's pointless whine threads like this that give miners and carebears a-like a bad name. Why don't YOU do something. Try fighting back, try realising that you are trying to play single player in a multi player world. Oh and you can also stop posting.[/quote]

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Archimedes Eratosthenes
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2012-06-01 22:05:17 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Doctor Benway Kado wrote:
So let me get this straight - I have to mine like the average miner, except the average miner (I'm assuming here) doesn't have 80+ war decs against his corp. I also have to announce that I'm doing this.

That... hmm. Yeah, I dunno. Gonna have to eat crow on this one, guys. I bow down to your invincible logic, Vaerah Vahrokha. Mining like an idiot is idiotic.


Hi sec miners have to learn and adapt to put their mining alts in NPC or other corps so they are impervious to wardecs.

I am saddened to learn this is too though for you guys.

Edit:

bah I apologize, you are actually a much nicer Goon than average, please don't take my challenging words as directed to your person.


At least Goonswarm has a legitimate motive for Hulkageddon with their tech production. However the guise of "hating afk miners" is very unhealthy for the game in general. Also if Goonies really hated afk-income, they'd get all the mission bots and disrupt/abuse the 0.01 ISK bots
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#63 - 2012-06-01 22:05:21 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
"Please go against all the advice you've given on these forums like not mining next door to a market hub and you'll get a total of 305 million ISK"


Sorry if you guys are so stupid to give impossible advice. Ice mining is where ice belts are, period. HTFU like the ice miners have to.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#64 - 2012-06-01 22:07:34 UTC
Archimedes Eratosthenes wrote:


At least Goonswarm has a legitimate motive for Hulkageddon with their tech production. However the guise of "hating afk miners" is very unhealthy for the game in general. Also if Goonies really hated afk-income, they'd get all the mission bots and disrupt/abuse the 0.01 ISK bots


Exactly.

Suicide ganking is good and weeds off the weak and the idiots.

But forming a whole scorched earth, organized hate campaign against a category populated by the weak is just rude.

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Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2012-06-01 22:09:14 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
"Please go against all the advice you've given on these forums like not mining next door to a market hub and you'll get a total of 305 million ISK"


Unless of course you die, then you lose. I promise I won't arrange this! I swear!

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2012-06-01 22:13:09 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Sorry if you guys are so stupid to give impossible advice. Ice mining is where ice belts are, period. HTFU like the ice miners have to.


Because all of the white glaze in the game is in The Forge and not Lonetrek, The Citadel and Black Rise

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#67 - 2012-06-01 22:14:42 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
"Please go against all the advice you've given on these forums like not mining next door to a market hub and you'll get a total of 305 million ISK"


Unless of course you die, then you lose. I promise I won't arrange this! I swear!


Those who know me in game know well how I'd never bother pouring in that much effort Blink

One thing is sure though: it would be exactly as good and as fair as what you organize yourself against all the average Joes.

You can't call unfair when it's exactly what you do.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#68 - 2012-06-01 22:16:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Richard Desturned wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Sorry if you guys are so stupid to give impossible advice. Ice mining is where ice belts are, period. HTFU like the ice miners have to.


Because all of the white glaze in the game is in The Forge and not Lonetrek, The Citadel and Black Rise


Hmm actually if you knew Bat Country patterns you'd know that The Citadel and Lonetrek are *as* visited as The Forge. Never went to check Black Rise though. The simple truth is that the ice systems are few enough that you can maintain an armed presence in all of them, hence the ice interdictions.

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Snow Axe
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#69 - 2012-06-01 22:17:25 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

Hmm actually if you knew Bat Country patterns you'd know that The Citadel and Lonetrek are *as* visited as The Forge. Never went to check Black Rise though.


Still doesn't explain why you limited your contest to the region that has Jita, though.

"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread["
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#70 - 2012-06-01 22:18:45 UTC
Snow Axe wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

Hmm actually if you knew Bat Country patterns you'd know that The Citadel and Lonetrek are *as* visited as The Forge. Never went to check Black Rise though.


Still doesn't explain why you limited your contest to the region that has Jita, though.


Because I'd like to keep remote trading while he bores himself to tears. P

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Ginseng Jita
PAN-EVE TRADING COMPANY
#71 - 2012-06-01 22:19:16 UTC
Le Dei Opus wrote:
If you hate people that semi-afk while mining (like me). Then I have a proposal:

Make a video of your self at the keyboard in front of your computer screen (this means with a webcam) mining in high-sec for two hours or more spamming D-scan.

If you can accomplish this, then you need to make a live stream of you doing it every day for a month.

Once you have accomplished this, you may declare war of the semi-afk miners who are "ruining this game." (when quite contrary to the fact miners are the reason this game even functions).

I'm beginning to believe that anyone who "hates miners" in a "video-GAME" are seriously mentally deranged.

Rules for making the video:
1) You may not alt-tab or minimize the game in anyway nor have any other application open that you may use to pass the time.
2) You must remain at the keyboard the entire time in front of your computer.
3) Your head must be facing the screen at all times watching the lasers strike the asteroids.
4) You must be in Caldari space.
5) You are not allowed to die to a suicide gank at any time during the video.

Each producer of such a video will receive an additional 5 million ISK from me personally to supplement their mining.


This has to be the dumbest thread I have ever come across on these forums...ever. Going to have to drink a beer because of it.
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#72 - 2012-06-01 22:25:26 UTC
This sounds like a wonderful idea. I will setup a Still Alive Board with automatic payments for every ten MPAA verified videos submitted.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#73 - 2012-06-01 22:26:31 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

Hmm actually if you knew Bat Country patterns you'd know that The Citadel and Lonetrek are *as* visited as The Forge. Never went to check Black Rise though. The simple truth is that the ice systems are few enough that you can maintain an armed presence in all of them, hence the ice interdictions.


Our interdiction also required the ice miners to not fit any kind of tank. We needed to make a profit on every kill to keep funding the event.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#74 - 2012-06-01 22:33:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
baltec1 wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

Hmm actually if you knew Bat Country patterns you'd know that The Citadel and Lonetrek are *as* visited as The Forge. Never went to check Black Rise though. The simple truth is that the ice systems are few enough that you can maintain an armed presence in all of them, hence the ice interdictions.


Our interdiction also required the ice miners to not fit any kind of tank. We needed to make a profit on every kill to keep funding the event.


And here is where it shows how kind I am. I fully allowed to fit the best tank.

Oh wait, I was not kind. I know that fitting a vaguely viable tank would make him warp to the station every cycle so he'd earn 3M per hour. You know, EvE has consequences...


*trollface.jpg*

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Drunk Driver
Doomheim
#75 - 2012-06-01 22:42:14 UTC

I'd rather watch videos of old women being shoved out of airplanes.

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Le Dei Opus
Doomheim
#76 - 2012-06-02 00:46:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Le Dei Opus
None of you wish to take up this challege? I'll add a more modest reward. I'll give you my last Hulk and Mack to supplement your pious mining dedication, as I no longer need them.
Doctor Benway Kado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#77 - 2012-06-02 00:51:59 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

Hmm actually if you knew Bat Country patterns you'd know that The Citadel and Lonetrek are *as* visited as The Forge. Never went to check Black Rise though. The simple truth is that the ice systems are few enough that you can maintain an armed presence in all of them, hence the ice interdictions.


Our interdiction also required the ice miners to not fit any kind of tank. We needed to make a profit on every kill to keep funding the event.


And here is where it shows how kind I am. I fully allowed to fit the best tank.

Oh wait, I was not kind. I know that fitting a vaguely viable tank would make him warp to the station every cycle so he'd earn 3M per hour. You know, EvE has consequences...


*trollface.jpg*

Wait, the average miner doesn't know how to use jetcans? Holy crap y'all are dumber than I thought.
Le Dei Opus
Doomheim
#78 - 2012-06-02 01:00:43 UTC
Doctor Benway Kado wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

Hmm actually if you knew Bat Country patterns you'd know that The Citadel and Lonetrek are *as* visited as The Forge. Never went to check Black Rise though. The simple truth is that the ice systems are few enough that you can maintain an armed presence in all of them, hence the ice interdictions.


Our interdiction also required the ice miners to not fit any kind of tank. We needed to make a profit on every kill to keep funding the event.


And here is where it shows how kind I am. I fully allowed to fit the best tank.

Oh wait, I was not kind. I know that fitting a vaguely viable tank would make him warp to the station every cycle so he'd earn 3M per hour. You know, EvE has consequences...


*trollface.jpg*

Wait, the average miner doesn't know how to use jetcans? Holy crap y'all are dumber than I thought.


To fit tank you must also sacrifice mining upgrades in your lows for that DCU and carry ecm drones instead of mining drones. Failure to fit a 30k ehp tank using tech 2 mods and ecm drones (at the expense of mining and cargo output) will either result in a swift death or force you to warp off every time a single dessie shows up, resulting in even less mining output. Fit a tank right and you can easily survive a T3 BC solo attack. Bring an armor tanked Arbitrator with large shield transporters and ecm in the meds and drones you can survive 4 tier 3 Bc's if you wish.

The problem however is that you may as well have a single account going into WH's with a Tengu instead for that much risk and effort.
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#79 - 2012-06-02 01:15:43 UTC
Two problems with the OP.

1) I don't play everyday. School isn't out yet.

2) I don't have a web cam.


Otherwise I'd be fine with your proposal. I mine actively anyway, and my computer could probably handle the overhead of a recording.

So... buy me a good webcam, do my homework, and we can have a deal. Otherwise, shut up.




Oh, also learn to mine aligned and all your troubles will go away... well except for potential insanity if ice mining.
Edit: no tank mods necessary.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#80 - 2012-06-02 01:18:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Doctor Benway Kado wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:

Hmm actually if you knew Bat Country patterns you'd know that The Citadel and Lonetrek are *as* visited as The Forge. Never went to check Black Rise though. The simple truth is that the ice systems are few enough that you can maintain an armed presence in all of them, hence the ice interdictions.


Our interdiction also required the ice miners to not fit any kind of tank. We needed to make a profit on every kill to keep funding the event.


And here is where it shows how kind I am. I fully allowed to fit the best tank.

Oh wait, I was not kind. I know that fitting a vaguely viable tank would make him warp to the station every cycle so he'd earn 3M per hour. You know, EvE has consequences...


*trollface.jpg*

Wait, the average miner doesn't know how to use jetcans? Holy crap y'all are dumber than I thought.


As per the rules my initial post you are to emulate an average joe. That is, it's you and your Mackinaw, no hauler. Game is a sandbox but can't enforce having multiple accounts, expecially on people who will probably not use scouts, cyno alts etc. Almost nobody use jet cans for ice anyway. If anything they fleet up with someone else (ARGH! Hi sec miners playing as a team, OH MY!) with an Orca.

The Mack will be tanked of course, since you guys believe it's so game changing, so it's cargo hold will be minimal. Have fun spending half your fine docking to station.

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