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Forum Alterson
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2011-10-02 15:13:29 UTC
I'm stationed in Mani, and run lvl4s in my Abaddon. The frustration of getting tracking disrupted is palpable. Where can I move to do lvl4s where the eWar of the NPCs don't bother my Abaddon much?
SexTrader
LOst BrotherhoOd
#2 - 2011-10-02 16:37:41 UTC  |  Edited by: SexTrader
I think it pretty much doesn't matter where you go. You are going to get some kind of ewar. If it's not tracking disruption, it will be target disruption.


Really, if it weren't for some kind of glitch in the missions, they would be worse than mining for boredom.
Gavin DeVries
JDI Industries
#3 - 2011-10-02 20:47:35 UTC
Sansha use tracking disruption. Blood Raiders use both tracking disruption and energy neutralizers. That would be even worse for your Abaddon. Guristas jam, Serpentis damp, and Angels target paint you. While painting is probably the least effective form of ewar to use against an Abaddon, the Angels do have the best resistances against the types of damage you put out. There's no way to avoid it, you can only deal with it.

Do NPC tracking disruptors still only reduce your optimal range and leave falloff untouched? Using beams or tachyons might help if so.

PVP is a question with no single right answer, but a lot of wrong ones.
AureoLion
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-10-02 21:49:30 UTC
Blood raiders neut, Sansha TD.
Choose your poison.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#5 - 2011-10-03 00:39:01 UTC
Gavin DeVries wrote:
Do NPC tracking disruptors still only reduce your optimal range and leave falloff untouched? Using beams or tachyons might help if so.


Yup. That's the trick. Abaddons don't have the range with pulses to make up for heavy disruption. Really neither do apocs. But introduce a bit of falloff and things get really easy really fast.
pussnheels
Viziam
#6 - 2011-10-03 08:01:07 UTC
Amarr ships shine if you use them against their natural enemies , sansha a,d blood raiders

You find sansha mainly in domain and tash and bloodraiders in kador and khanid but i could be mistaken on this i have to check dotlan maps for that

Indeed sansha TD you and bloodraiders neut you and sometimes TD you aswell
It is mostly the elite cruisers that do the TD ing or neuting so in genral there your first targets and in my opinion TDing is more frustrating than neuting , for the later it is just a question of keeping them outside their neuting range

For TD is another story and only 2 missions are really heavy on , the blockade and vengeance in most other missions the TD is general doable , but if you flying a abaddon you should be alright with your tank and kill those pesky elite cruisers and frigs one by one aslong you don't mess up the aggro

But in genral since your main damage is EM/thermal and both sansha and bloodraiders are vulnerable to EM/therm you will do well

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Shadowsword
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-10-03 09:08:58 UTC
Forum Alterson wrote:
I'm stationed in Mani, and run lvl4s in my Abaddon. The frustration of getting tracking disrupted is palpable. Where can I move to do lvl4s where the eWar of the NPCs don't bother my Abaddon much?



Invest in a faction-fit tachyon nightmare. It's expensive (without being gank-worthy), but Tachyons's optimal, high dps and the ability to fit 2-3 tracking mods reduce a lot the nuisance of being tracking disrupted.
Tyrnaeg en Varche
#8 - 2011-10-03 14:09:40 UTC
I don't understand how does TD affect you so much. I do missions vs. sansha in a Paladin, using T2 Mega Pulses with Scorch/Conflagration. Enemies. just. melt.

More details:
Frigs that use TD, orbit near you and drones pop them fast.
Cruisers that use TD, are usually disintegrated by Scorches.
When you are being TDed, don't keep firing at fast or distant targets. Switch to something large near you - Scorches will do the rest.

Paladin is similar to Abaddon when it comes to damage, rof and range.
Goose99
#9 - 2011-10-03 16:05:21 UTC
Tyrnaeg en Varche wrote:
I don't understand how does TD affect you so much. I do missions vs. sansha in a Paladin, using T2 Mega Pulses with Scorch/Conflagration. Enemies. just. melt.

More details:
Frigs that use TD, orbit near you and drones pop them fast.
Cruisers that use TD, are usually disintegrated by Scorches.
When you are being TDed, don't keep firing at fast or distant targets. Switch to something large near you - Scorches will do the rest.

Paladin is similar to Abaddon when it comes to damage, rof and range.


Invest in 4 faction tachs and fit it. With megapulse, yeah, your Paladin will be just like an Abaddon, under rat TD, of all things. A better idea would be invest in a NM. Paladin grid sucks.
Padma Daq
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-10-03 21:24:15 UTC
I don't fully understand why TD hurts you so much. With the exception of Sansha blockade (which is absolutly painful and not worth the time in a gun boat) I never found TD really that bad.

I'd rather fly missions against Sansha and Bloodraiders, accepting light forms of TD and neuting but have good damage, than fly against, say, Angel and have my damaged halfed.

That said, my only real tip would be to look for a system with 2+ level 4 agents, That way you can more easily decline the annoying missions and cherry-pick the good ones.
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2011-10-04 02:55:36 UTC
sansha and blood raider don't TD or neut much..... i mean vs sansha the only mission i can think off the top of my head the TD enough to matter is blockade.
pussnheels
Viziam
#12 - 2011-10-04 06:30:52 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
Tyrnaeg en Varche wrote:
I don't understand how does TD affect you so much. I do missions vs. sansha in a Paladin, using T2 Mega Pulses with Scorch/Conflagration. Enemies. just. melt.

More details:
Frigs that use TD, orbit near you and drones pop them fast.
Cruisers that use TD, are usually disintegrated by Scorches.
When you are being TDed, don't keep firing at fast or distant targets. Switch to something large near you - Scorches will do the rest.

Paladin is similar to Abaddon when it comes to damage, rof and range.


Invest in 4 faction tachs and fit it. With megapulse, yeah, your Paladin will be just like an Abaddon, under rat TD, of all things. A better idea would be invest in a NM. Paladin grid sucks.


this is what i rarely understand , why do people keep insisting you need to fit( pimp) your missionshup with tons of faction items to do lvl 4 missions ,

You don't need to t2 items do their job just aswell, tho it can get cramped with the cpu and grid needs

Yes i also have faction items on my paladin but these are the items you can get from the lp shop and compared with some of the pirate faction items they relative cheap

I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Tyrnaeg en Varche
#13 - 2011-10-05 13:16:00 UTC
pussnheels wrote:
this is what i rarely understand , why do people keep insisting you need to fit( pimp) your missionshup with tons of faction items to do lvl 4 missions , You don't need to t2 items do their job just aswell, tho it can get cramped with the cpu and grid needs
Yes i also have faction items on my paladin but these are the items you can get from the lp shop and compared with some of the pirate faction items they relative cheap


People that play more than 8h daily, can grind more missions with officer fit and increased dps. If you play 1-2h/day like i do, it does not make any difference - normal T2 are fine.

I also beleive that the effects of TD are more heavy on tachyons than pulses. When I fly at 40-45km from rats with MegaPulses, it's easy to get into 30km and kill them, even with TDed Pulses. If i am fighting at 80-100km with tachyons it takes more time to get into TDed tachyon range.