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No

Ummm, why not pvp in Hi-sec?

The rules support it and I'm *pretty* sure CCP knows that people fight in hi-sec space!

/me points to the log-in warning about burn Jita, etc., etc.,

You don't want to PvP?

Give me your stuff and biomass.

WoW, Hello Kitty Online and various other "friendly" MMOs are over

Hmm did i say somewhere that pvp should be banned or something? Why cant someone have tons of PVP in low sec or 0.0?

Why cant someone have tons of PVP in low sec or 0.0? Read befor you answer




To have pvp whenever and where you decide? sure not

Are you a CCP alt to keep us believing that killing noobs in high sec is a good idea and you dont have to go to low sec and 00?

What stops you having kills in low sec and 00? Maybe you suck at pvp?

Sure i agree, this thread is about to change the rules of pseudo pvp in high sec. Some people just dont have balls to fight in low sec or 00. They only can compete against industry noobs.




Can you read?



Are you scared to pvp outside of high sec? Do you feel safer while harassing industry noobs? Tell me more about your fears im sure i can help you

Nope nobody ganked me. Can you answer the question? what stops you having pvp in 00 or low sec?

If nothing stops you pvping in low sec or 0.0 why dont you go there than to pvp?
- Why do you need to blow up a noob miner who does not even have skils to pvp?
-Why should someone not be able to run incursions, for example, cause he is wardeced?
-Why should a 2 days old noob get ganked? Why should someone pvp without wanting it?
-Why shouldnt there be a safe place where new players can evolve to what HE wants?

You want pvp=low sec/0.0
You want incursions, missions, indy, mining, etc, you are a new player = hig sec.

and formost how exactly gonna stop a small corp a wardec? No way to do it with the new expansion. Until the aggressor accepts a surrender the wardec goes on forever.


If you want more raisons let me know

Because he/she might be unwittingly supplying minerals to my enemies.


Because that person:
- may be the alt character of one of my enemies and is using the income from Incursions to fund his war//struggle against me
- has very shiny loot and I want it (and don't want to be forced to deal with the market or Incursions to get it)
- that person insulted/shot at/looked at me funny and so I want revenge... for honor... and anything shiny I pick up from his/her loot is a bonus


It teaches the nubbin very early on that EVE is not like other MMOs... that you can be engaged anytime, anywhere... and that it's generally not a good idea to carry so much fancy stuff in one ship without taking precautions ahead of time.


Because the moment you create "safe places" in EVE will be the same moment that everyone and their mother will move their manufacturing and support to said safe place... thus creating logistics operations that are invulnerable and can continually support one's enemies indefinitely.


Incursions are not "new player content." Far from it.
Mining and industry can be done in low and null-sec too. It's just that more people do it in high-sec (0.0 alliances included) due to the hassle of the "Rules of Engagement."


Kemal Ataturk said...
and formost how exactly gonna stop a small corp a wardec? No way to do it with the new expansion. Until the aggressor accepts a surrender the wardec goes on forever.
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Understand something... combat and PvP can be performed in a variety of ways... not just straight ship-on-ship combat. This is especially so when it comes to corporations.
"People's skills" can go a LONG way to getting rid of an unwanted war dec (as does humor). All you have to do is not be an entitled asshat and WORK with your attackers to find a mutually agreeable solution. And yes, this DOES require you to swallow you pride to some degree... and yes, it isn't really fair. But guess what? EVE was not designed to be fair.
EVE is the only game where it is perfectly allowable to "throw sand" in your enemy's face to gain the upper hand.

EvE == Everyone vs Everyone...

Everything you do in EvE is related to competing with your neighbor. While mining, or mission running, or industry don't involve shooting your neighbor, they affect him. This game allows you to use aggression (wars, suicide ganking, etc) to attack anyone, thereby limiting their influence, restricting their activites, so you can game the system and get ahead.

Look at events like Hulkageddon. While it caters to the schoolyard bullies of society, it's effects modify the entire market, it psychologically changes how many players approach the game, and is a fundamental sandbox driver. I totally understand why people don't like getting ganked, or war decced by a random third party, but learning how to deal with it is a fundamental part of EvE. This is not like other MMO's, where the developers protect you. In this game, YOU are responsible for protecting yourself. The developers provide many, many tools available to you, so you can protect yourself.

Remember, CONFLICT is the biggest driver in EvE. Anything that creates MORE CONFLICT is seen as a great positive, and artificial limits on conflict are seen as undesired.