EVE General Discussion

Exactly
People once again are trying to dictate what a person does in game.
It is never going to happen.

In the end even though ganking doesn't need to be nerfed that is what is going to happen.
Eventually CCP is going to be forced to do something and past history shows us when a mechanic is used to much it gets nerfed.

Gankers are just shooting themselves in the foot.

I think you're onto something. Working the forums has become part of the game of influencing the Eve Online universe. Hiseccers should continue to post frequently, speak loudly and advocate for their vision(s) of the their part of the sandbox. And its working...in the past few months CCP has slowly limited hisec mechanics to make ganking less easy/profitable. There's room to go before the majority of hisec folks feel a proper balance has been struck between risk and reward, so we should continue to advocate for proper balance (from our perspective, of course).

Mitt and his lemmings have worked the forums to great effect for a long time now. Hiseccers should continue to do the same.

lol so your way is to afk mine in a cargo rigged hulk

and if forum whining is the new metagame i quit.

So, OP is trying to say that anyone who gets ganked in hisec should biomass and start ganking character.

Where's sandbox element in this game if there's only one thing you're allowed to do? Sounds more like theme park MMO or Elder Scrolls game to me.

If you can't see the irony in your statement, I'm not sure you can be helped. New has nothing to do with it. Your core argument is "this is the way the game works, deal with it." That means no complaints: adapt, die, or play something else. Just because the current cause d'jour isn't your issue, doesn't mean it isn't valid. You're argument is turning from "adapt or die" to "here are the things you are allowed to complain about." Whatever CCP introduces, adapt or die, whether its gold ammo or pets or whatever the f*ck. Follow your own ethos or shut up.

"A straw man is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position"

Thanks wikipedia.

The only argument we're having is about what a straw man is. What I originally said was not a straw man to your OP. It was an observation. My second observation is that your IQ isn't very high, due to the fact that you are trying to be a previously stated internet tough guy. I was never trying to say that Eve is not hard, hence I was never trying to disprove your point, and hence... I hope you get it now...

And just because other's are agreeing or disagreeing, that does not mean I'm debating. I'm not.

Eve is not a game of equals where "may the better man win" mindset is the rule.

Eve is a game a "may the smarter and better prepared man win".

Honestly, I haven't PvP'ed on this toon. I will eventually, but right now I find mission running to be a stress reliever from being a Regional Technical Program Manager.

I'm still not dumb enough to think that if I am running loot and salvage to sell that my ship can't or won't get ganked. I also keep an eye out for a posible gank while mission running. I also do not think it's unfair that the spoils of my hard work could easily wind up in the hands of a suicide ganker in a manner of seconds. They'll get to sell my loot and I'll have to buy another ship and start the process f building up my stores all over again.

That's Eve.

That's why I play Eve.

It's not safe. It's not without risk of losing everything I have on me.

Rather than trying to change Eve to fit your style of preferred playing, maybe you should allow some change in yourself by embracing the risk of the unexpected and calculating consequences for everything you do and everywhere you go. If you change it in a game, maybe it will spread to other areas of your life and you can start recognizing opportunities to take hold of and have the courage to do so. Maybe you'll start paying more attention to what's going on around you and realize that someone is attempting to take advantage of you before they actually succeed.

I got lucky last night. I was an idiot and headed out with about 65 million worth (sale price, not market average) of spolis in my hold. After I docked and opened up my inventory, I about crapped myself that I made it considering I auto-piloted for two jumps to take a wiz. If I had lost everything, I would not blame the gankers or CCP. I know the risks and I goofed up and brought more than I should have. I would have only blamed myself.

Worked out in my favor. Caught the market at a good spot and had alot of items that were in the green over market average.

If you want safe and predictable, then Eve is not, and hopefully will not ever be what you want.

Not so long ago you would have been celebrating the end of insurance payouts on gankboats and saying this is the end of mass ganking. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. This game is perfectly balanced in that, people who chose to not fit a tank are exposed to greater risk. Dont want that destroyer killing your hulk? Then protect yourself.

Ganking is here to stay and 9 years of EVE history tells us that it will not hurt the game.

lmao

I hadn't seen this before. Thank you for posting this link.

I lol'd every single time I saw Sveinn's gold chains.

That pimp got some bling!

Effin' Hilarious.

Yonis Kador

Many of you should log into the game and see for yourselves. It's not all 'The sky is falling!' like you make it out to be.