EVE General Discussion

I find Eve players a bit humorous when they post on the forums or talk like OP. It's as if they're trying to be tough while playing a video game, as if a hard video game proves they're hardcore....

I'm not sure I can make a strawman when there isn't even a debate going on.... And your OP is the common species of thread that is "I'm real tough. I play Eve. Eve is hard. It is mean to you".

But go ahead and feel free to keep trying to look tough on internet spaceships forum.

The way I see it, CCP designed a game(Eve); The Game is the Game, you either accept it for what it is and play, or you do not. Too many people trying to bend the game to their Favour, Style, Perception, Will and or Desires.

This is pretty accurate. I will admit that when I first started (I actually trialed the game several times on various trial accounts), I didn't read any of the stuff that I should have. Not because it wasn't SHOVED IN MY FACE, but because I just wanted to play & not read a bunch of stuff, so I clicked past it all. I didn't even do the tutorials.

After being killed by people a few times I decided to read a bunch of stuff on the forums. I was a little peeved at first, but soon realised that this is how the game works. I accepted that simple fact, my gameplay experience improved vastly. I can now look back & accept that everything that happened to me in the early days was solely my own fault.

Unfortunately, not everyone can see it that way & EVE has become invaded by the people with a huge sense of entitlement that have had their every whim catered to in every other game they've played.

TL;DR I started out as a moron, became less of a moron & began to love EVE for what it was. May still be a moron.



Your avatar is like a younger version of mine! I see you also like the poo-brown & baby poo-green background. Have you noticed the shadow wang?

Possibly yes, but that's introducing a NEW mechanic that also goes against the statement "eve is hard" if you can just pay2win.

suicide ganking is nothing new, the only thing that has changed is the number of players who feel that CCP should protect them from pvp

I didnt mean to say that people shouldn't complain about game mechanics of eve, but eves style of pvp is arguably a founding aspect and it is what sets it apart from other games.



"Inventing a fictitious persona with actions or beliefs which are then criticized, implying that the person represents a group of whom the speaker is critical."

seems like a strawman to me, feel free to prove me wrong though I am keenly waiting for you to post somthing useful.

And this thread seems like a debate to me, lots of people disagreeing/argreeing.

In before some mong says buying PLEX is pay2win.



They'd probably take it all back pretty quick, but yes. That is EVE.

FACEPALM, another one of these who believe that humans belong to a higher order and are not animals...and about only humans adapt their environment please see for example: ants, corals, birds.

Biota
Eukarya
Animalia
Chordata
Mammalia - yay we belong to the same clade as dolphins :)
Primates - you know, just because we have been the first (prime) chapter in Linne's classification
Hominidae
Homo sapiens - thats us.

P.s. sorry for not posting on the topic :)

So you're asking that if someone used an exploit to take someones stuff, would they be annoyed? Yes, they probably would be & the exploiter would get some time off to spend with their families. I don't see how this is related to something that is actually allowed within the game.

My Favorite is "EvE is a Sandbox, Learn to play"

EvE has sandbox elements but is not a sandbox.
If EvE was a true sandbox, this ganking miners in highsec would not be an issue at all because Miners could equip hulks with guns and pretend to mine until a ganker showed up. Then Said Hulk would ambush the ganker and gankers would have to worry about something for once.

EvE is also not hard, not even close to hard. Death does not hurt much at all, you lose a ship and maybe your implants but 90% of players in EVE have more then enough ISK to replace the ship they lose.

At least in a game like Everquest if you died, you had to work to get your stuff back. In EvE you die, you either fly you pod to the nearest location with your next ship, jump in it and go back to ganking or whatever or you get podded and magicly show up at the hanger, jump in the next ship and back to business as normal.

The only MoTo in EvE is "Don't fly what you cannot afford to lose". That is the only one that rings true.


Also if people are really honest with themselves then they know the real order of dangerous systems.
Low Sec - Most dangerous
High Sec - Next dangerous
null sec - Lease dangerous (If its not blue shot it)

If these so called "Big guys" want PvP then why are they ganking unarmed ships? Oh right they do not want PVP they want to pad the kill board, end of story.

Ganking a unarmed ship is not PVP, not even close.

EvE is a ganking and griefing game, not a pvp game. Sure there are so PvP players but mostly fake PvP players that will never engage in a fair fight ever.