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SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#61 - 2012-05-31 22:42:37 UTC
Sebastian Flux wrote:
I'm new to EVE, about a week or so. Can i just ask, why don't miners just join a corp and get someone from that corp to protect them while they mine and offer some of their reward as payment? Are there no corps that offer this kind of service? I find it hard to imagine. It sounds like solo-mining is just asking to get ganked. You will never change human nature, easy kill, easy reward, why not? Its been this way since the dawn of the genre. Ganking just human nature at work.

Coming into this game i expected 'protected' mining to be a thing of the norm, but you're telling me there's hundreds of people out there mining in dangerous space completely unprotected? Makes no sense. :S


Holy **** you all just got called out by a newbie. I'd be embarrassed that he found a solution that you couldn't.
Yonis Kador
KADORCORP
#62 - 2012-06-01 01:16:37 UTC
A while ago I noticed a large colony of ants had built a new mound in my backyard. As a nature lover, I enjoyed watching the way they grew their little colony and worked so diligently together for the betterment of all within. They had their good days and their bad days but they just kept on trying. One day the little suckers moved into the pot of my favorite flowering plant and it started to die. To save my plant, I had no choice but to flood it repeatedly with the garden hose. They were pretty resiliant lil suckers. I'd hose them and they'd rebuild. I'd hose them and they'd rebuild. Until eventually, one day, they just left and I never saw them again.

After reading this thread, I'm left to wonder: were the ants really just not fit for life in my flowerpot? Or after surviving 500 million years of evolution, was it the continuing cycle of disaster I unleashed that eventually caused them to leave?

Yonis Kador


OP - Don't quit. Mine in 1.0 systems. Locate and mine anomalies. Also many lower level missions contain tons of ore. Accept the mission and just think of it as a CCP anomaly. If you don't complete the missions, the rocks respawn after every DT for 7 days.

TL,DR: There are many ways to minimize the risks to your ship.
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
#63 - 2012-06-01 01:21:08 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Sebastian Flux wrote:
I'm new to EVE, about a week or so. Can i just ask, why don't miners just join a corp and get someone from that corp to protect them while they mine and offer some of their reward as payment? Are there no corps that offer this kind of service? I find it hard to imagine. It sounds like solo-mining is just asking to get ganked. You will never change human nature, easy kill, easy reward, why not? Its been this way since the dawn of the genre. Ganking just human nature at work.

Coming into this game i expected 'protected' mining to be a thing of the norm, but you're telling me there's hundreds of people out there mining in dangerous space completely unprotected? Makes no sense. :S


Holy **** you all just got called out by a newbie. I'd be embarrassed that he found a solution that you couldn't.


That's why you guys lost a freighter full of Zydrine a month ago, right? Because we all know that's what corpies do. Run around being baby sitters for Industrial Ops.

****-talking trolls.

Farewell OP.
Mina Hiragi
Perkone
Caldari State
#64 - 2012-06-01 03:25:11 UTC
Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:
Lemme ask you, if you go into the playground, and go into the sandbox, and all the little boys and girls are trying to stuff sand up their own butts, and you decide that particular game isn't for you, does that mean you don't like sandbox games??


Uh, yes? Nobody's forcing you to shove sand up your butt. The fact that some people are doing it is making you quit means, yeah, you don't like sandbox games.

And no, nobody's forcing you to freaking learn basic fitting, scanning and alignment techniques here in EVE.

You're totally free to not do that. Just as other players are totally free to take advantage of the fact that you aren't doing that.
Alderon Mizuchi
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#65 - 2012-06-01 03:34:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Alderon Mizuchi
All these pointless whining topics when all it takes are the miners going to a quiet highsec system so they can DScan for probes when a new face shows up in local, or even warp out to a new system if the new face is negative security. Hell, not even that, but just be aligned and warp out if you see a ship coming closer to you on DScan.

No, much easier to ***** and moan about having to work at keeping your ship alive. You know, like every other person who flies an expensive ship they don't want to lose has to do.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#66 - 2012-06-01 04:09:16 UTC
Alderon Mizuchi wrote:
All these pointless whining topics when all it takes are the miners going to a quiet highsec system so they can DScan for probes when a new face shows up in local, or even warp out to a new system if the new face is negative security. Hell, not even that, but just be aligned and warp out if you see a ship coming closer to you on DScan.

No, much easier to ***** and moan about having to work at keeping your ship alive. You know, like every other person who flies an expensive ship they don't want to lose has to do.


Move a Hulk 3 systems over. It's so easy. It isn't like the griefers can't just follow you. Oh wait..
Spikeflach
Perkone
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-06-01 04:46:34 UTC
Downside to MMOs is the fact that most high ranked entities are full of jerks, or actually the people take on the jerklike aspect of the entity even when they maybe the the nicest of persons.

Some people realize this and get out, others take it like a battered wife.

(Sorry, I mean no offense to women)
Valya Niell
Drunken Yordles
#68 - 2012-06-01 09:53:15 UTC
SmilingVagrant wrote:
Sebastian Flux wrote:
I'm new to EVE, about a week or so. Can i just ask, why don't miners just join a corp and get someone from that corp to protect them while they mine and offer some of their reward as payment? Are there no corps that offer this kind of service? I find it hard to imagine. It sounds like solo-mining is just asking to get ganked. You will never change human nature, easy kill, easy reward, why not? Its been this way since the dawn of the genre. Ganking just human nature at work.

Coming into this game i expected 'protected' mining to be a thing of the norm, but you're telling me there's hundreds of people out there mining in dangerous space completely unprotected? Makes no sense. :S


Holy **** you all just got called out by a newbie. I'd be embarrassed that he found a solution that you couldn't.


honestly sounds like (and looks like) an alt to me. that being said seriously, wear protection.

XTreme Industries: Take back your roids! winners not whiners. If you care about your game experience take it back or find a different game experience to hate. Goonsquad: now offering bounties to troll and flame. inquire within.
Valya Niell
Drunken Yordles
#69 - 2012-06-01 09:55:48 UTC
Mina Hiragi wrote:
Tanaka Sekigahara wrote:
Lemme ask you, if you go into the playground, and go into the sandbox, and all the little boys and girls are trying to stuff sand up their own butts, and you decide that particular game isn't for you, does that mean you don't like sandbox games??


Uh, yes? Nobody's forcing you to shove sand up your butt. The fact that some people are doing it is making you quit means, yeah, you don't like sandbox games.

And no, nobody's forcing you to freaking learn basic fitting, scanning and alignment techniques here in EVE.

You're totally free to not do that. Just as other players are totally free to take advantage of the fact that you aren't doing that.


I'd like to point out that it's alot of people doing the shoving, then forcing you to do something similar to the shoving. it doesn't help that the active forum goers tend to be either whiners or kids pointing and laughing.

XTreme Industries: Take back your roids! winners not whiners. If you care about your game experience take it back or find a different game experience to hate. Goonsquad: now offering bounties to troll and flame. inquire within.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#70 - 2012-06-01 09:58:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Ban Bindy wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Next time don't play sandbox games.


*sniff*Why don't you grow up and stop telling *sniff* other people what to do? *sniff sniff* Eve is not a sandbox any more. It's a field of bullies :cry:.


Aww, would you like a cuddle?

Valya Niell wrote:
I'd like to point out that it's alot of people doing the shoving, then forcing you to do something similar to the shoving. it doesn't help that the active forum goers tend to be either whiners or kids pointing and laughing.


Confirming I am a man-child who is also gay, because adults are not allowed to have fun.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#71 - 2012-06-01 09:58:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Alderon Mizuchi wrote:
All these pointless whining topics when all it takes are the miners going to a quiet highsec system so they can DScan for probes when a new face shows up in local, or even warp out to a new system if the new face is negative security. Hell, not even that, but just be aligned and warp out if you see a ship coming closer to you on DScan.


Ah, glad we got those famous quiet, very out of the way, hi sec caldari ice systems with 5 in local instead of the usual 80-100.

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Nicolo da'Vicenza
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2012-06-01 10:01:50 UTC
Why would a guy who is quitting post behind an NPC corp forum alt?

fake and gay

(ban NPC corps)
Valya Niell
Drunken Yordles
#73 - 2012-06-01 10:02:05 UTC
okay, so here's a possibly new way to look at this. so many people find mining a boring part of this game only there to support your non mining habits... now take out the mining being nessacary as you're now just destroying the miners to get their goods. what will ccp do if the miners all quit because they were all stupid and kept getting destroyed... put in npc hulks for you to gank? i don't like the whole concerted effort to gank you think and i'm getting so effing tired of seeing all this "adapt or die" crud but it's true. if you wanna stay in the game make a concerted effort to keep them from taking aay your enjoyment. are you a casual gamer? for m a large enough corp/alliance of casual gamers so that there are enough of you on at any given time to defend each other. if you're making enough money to pay for this only casually then you're making enough money to buy plex to stimulate your economy...

that being said i enjoy mining. and don't look to kindly on those taking away my enjoyment of mining. you say it's boring i say screw you. just because i don't find flying a plane entertaining doesn't mean i'm going to repeatedly crash your plane and laugh at you.

XTreme Industries: Take back your roids! winners not whiners. If you care about your game experience take it back or find a different game experience to hate. Goonsquad: now offering bounties to troll and flame. inquire within.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#74 - 2012-06-01 10:04:27 UTC
Valya Niell wrote:
okay, so here's a possibly new way to look at this. so many people find mining a boring part of this game only there to support your non mining habits... now take out the mining being nessacary as you're now just destroying the miners to get their goods. what will ccp do if the miners all quit because they were all stupid and kept getting destroyed... put in npc hulks for you to gank? i don't like the whole concerted effort to gank you think and i'm getting so effing tired of seeing all this "adapt or die" crud but it's true. if you wanna stay in the game make a concerted effort to keep them from taking aay your enjoyment. are you a casual gamer? for m a large enough corp/alliance of casual gamers so that there are enough of you on at any given time to defend each other. if you're making enough money to pay for this only casually then you're making enough money to buy plex to stimulate your economy...

that being said i enjoy mining. and don't look to kindly on those taking away my enjoyment of mining. you say it's boring i say screw you. just because i don't find flying a plane entertaining doesn't mean i'm going to repeatedly crash your plane and laugh at you.


To be honest, we'd just find something else to suicide gank. That wouldn't happen though because there are always people eager & willing to mine.

Adapt & survive or fail & die.

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Valya Niell
Drunken Yordles
#75 - 2012-06-01 10:06:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Valya Niell
Mallak Azaria wrote:

Valya Niell wrote:
I'd like to point out that it's alot of people doing the shoving, then forcing you to do something similar to the shoving. it doesn't help that the active forum goers tend to be either whiners or kids pointing and laughing.


Confirming I am a man-child who is also gay, because adults are not allowed to have fun.


i'm glad you're admitting hat you are my friend.

first, i realize sarcasm tends to come off as whining. so i'll pretend yo forgive you. second quit trolling it's not becoming.

Besides i'm blowing people apart isn't everyone's cup of tea. i prefer coffee.

XTreme Industries: Take back your roids! winners not whiners. If you care about your game experience take it back or find a different game experience to hate. Goonsquad: now offering bounties to troll and flame. inquire within.
Valya Niell
Drunken Yordles
#76 - 2012-06-01 10:08:13 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Valya Niell wrote:
okay, so here's a possibly new way to look at this. so many people find mining a boring part of this game only there to support your non mining habits... now take out the mining being nessacary as you're now just destroying the miners to get their goods. what will ccp do if the miners all quit because they were all stupid and kept getting destroyed... put in npc hulks for you to gank? i don't like the whole concerted effort to gank you think and i'm getting so effing tired of seeing all this "adapt or die" crud but it's true. if you wanna stay in the game make a concerted effort to keep them from taking aay your enjoyment. are you a casual gamer? for m a large enough corp/alliance of casual gamers so that there are enough of you on at any given time to defend each other. if you're making enough money to pay for this only casually then you're making enough money to buy plex to stimulate your economy...

that being said i enjoy mining. and don't look to kindly on those taking away my enjoyment of mining. you say it's boring i say screw you. just because i don't find flying a plane entertaining doesn't mean i'm going to repeatedly crash your plane and laugh at you.


To be honest, we'd just find something else to suicide gank. That wouldn't happen though because there are always people eager & willing to mine.

Adapt & survive or fail & die.


why do you suicide gank stuff anyays? cause it's fun?

XTreme Industries: Take back your roids! winners not whiners. If you care about your game experience take it back or find a different game experience to hate. Goonsquad: now offering bounties to troll and flame. inquire within.
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#77 - 2012-06-01 11:55:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Valya Niell wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Valya Niell wrote:
okay, so here's a possibly new way to look at this. so many people find mining a boring part of this game only there to support your non mining habits... now take out the mining being nessacary as you're now just destroying the miners to get their goods. what will ccp do if the miners all quit because they were all stupid and kept getting destroyed... put in npc hulks for you to gank? i don't like the whole concerted effort to gank you think and i'm getting so effing tired of seeing all this "adapt or die" crud but it's true. if you wanna stay in the game make a concerted effort to keep them from taking aay your enjoyment. are you a casual gamer? for m a large enough corp/alliance of casual gamers so that there are enough of you on at any given time to defend each other. if you're making enough money to pay for this only casually then you're making enough money to buy plex to stimulate your economy...

that being said i enjoy mining. and don't look to kindly on those taking away my enjoyment of mining. you say it's boring i say screw you. just because i don't find flying a plane entertaining doesn't mean i'm going to repeatedly crash your plane and laugh at you.


To be honest, we'd just find something else to suicide gank. That wouldn't happen though because there are always people eager & willing to mine.

Adapt & survive or fail & die.


why do you suicide gank stuff anyays? cause it's fun?


I beat off because it's fun.
I suicide gank because the resulting convo's are funny.

Quote:
second quit trolling it's not becoming.


There is wisdom in those words. Try to find the meaning.

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Rek Seven
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#78 - 2012-06-01 12:07:44 UTC
Bel Amar
Rules of Acquisition
#79 - 2012-06-01 12:21:59 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
I play eve for the same reasons as you, to escape from reality and to relax, shame that others can't understand that there are people who play eve for completely different reasons.


I play EVE because it's a game of cut throat competition, where you are not protected from yourself or other players, I play it because it's exactly not like every single other MMO on the market.

The real shame is that people want to trash this unique aspect, and simply don't care that they're trying to kill something that can't be found anywhere else.

Your "different reasons" have a home in any one of numerous other MMOs. My reasons can be found in exactly one place, and you want to crap all over them
Forger Lanis
The Augen Nation.
#80 - 2012-06-01 12:56:33 UTC
Remove Concord and slap every aggressor in hisec with a gcc that lasts for three days.