Ships & Modules

Didn't read all the posts so i'm not sure if this has been answered..

I just threw this module on a rupture for testing.

First of all, it is possible to run it while being cap stable, with active tank, AB and webber aswell..

Anyhow, as we all know it starts out with 15% resists across the board.
it then shifts by 1% per cycle depending on incoming damage.

for reference: em/therm/kin/exp

If you're getting hit equally bt all types, resist will be 15/15/15/15

if you're against say, Gurista, resists will be 0/30/30/0

if you're against a drake shooting Scourge missiles your resistance will be 0/60/0/0


My conclusion is that, while it offers 30% more resistance (optimally) than an EANM II, the time required to obtain the full effect just makes it a bit useless for most situations..

Some missinformation in this thread so far...
First the above is NOT true, I've had mine shift to 32 em 28 therm when fighting Bloodraiders/Sansha, also had it divided unequally over 3 or 4 resists when fighting mercenaries for instance, it's not fixed to even parts.
Also it does not get stuck once it reaches a certain division, when doing missions with different enemies like dread pirate scarlet it adjusts just fine without turning it off.

It does take too long to adjust though, I agree on that.

Not the most convincing but the first one I got:

Enemies Abound 3/5 2nd room

Another one:

Enemies Abound 4/5 final room

Enemies Abound 5/5

I've tested it. Also, your screenshots don't really prove anything, as they're at about 30/30; as for adjusting to other damage types, likely what happened was you weren't receiving the damage type for several cycles, and then began to.

If you want to see for yourself, get on Sisi along with an alt/friend, have one ship fit a reactive armor hardener, and the other ship fit 8 smartbombs, 2 of each damage type, and try them out. With 2 EM and 1 thermal smartbomb going you will get 30/30 EM/therm resists.

This is a lie. I've watched the module myself work correctly with my bait ships. I will always fit one of these to my bait ships for now on as well, I noticed substantially increased survival.

yay more armor cap fleet bumps, *barf*
May be they should just make a passive armor drug so we can all just represses our shield caps and ask for a skill refund.

lets see how passive tank works for caps

..............................................................Armor................................Shield
% HP mod..................................................√ .......................................X
capless omni resist mod............................√........................................X
damage control unit...................................√* .....................................√
slave set (aka imps for caps)...................√ ..................................... X
cap intensive omni mod............................√........................................√
drug..........................................................X........................................X

*better for armor



see all we need now is a armor passive drug, like 20% more HP or 10% resist or hell 1% re gen a sec and then we can just take the code for caldari and some minmatar caps right out, to make room for a few new amarr caps. Hell T2 amarr caps with huge resist and a 5% resist per level on top..................................................................


They should also just cut the mineral need on all armor caps buy 50% because there still not not used enuf.
Shield caps need a nerf to make room for the armor caps, lets say 25% more minerals need and time as well just to be safe.

It's the way they add/remove resist which causes it to get locked. It's already been pointed out in that other thread.

It's taking from two lowest and adding to two highest, and with only two dmg types this makes it lock at 30/30

Adding a third dmg type, will make a little go to that type, which can then be taken by the actual highest dmg type.


I shot another ship with more even resists with 9 Ogres and 1 Bouncer, and did indeed get 30/30 split that did not change.
But when I removed one Ogre and added a Curator, resistance was slowly passed to EM at 0.5% one cycle, which was scooped up by TH and EX the next cycle (ship resist was still EM higher then EX). This makes an already slow process at 1% per cycle per dmg type, extremely slow.

So they have to fix the way it adds/removes resists

http://i.imgur.com/0nst2.jpg

You my friend, have obviously never heard of cap boosters....

You shouldn't be so adamant about active tanks, you just might get your ass kicked by a dual repped sac. Never mind that pulse reppers on frigates are actually quite popular.

Don't forget how nuets and nos's work, there is time to hit a small cap booster and inject cap to be used for your repper/AB/MWD/Weapon cycles before the next cycle of nuet hits.

You should probably learn more about how nueting and other mechanics work before you try to pigeon hole everyone into a cookie cutter fit.

Oh, so it's just pre-nerfed due to the time it takes to adapt and by CCP's inability to code resulting in this bug and the one that causes it not to re-adapt after finishing adapting once then.

Nice to see that it does take resists into account as well, or at least is supposed to. The other question would be, does it factor in stacking penalties with other hardeners?