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Chekxxx
Doomheim
#21 - 2012-05-30 11:37:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Chekxxx
ScoRpS wrote:
Please let it go.

The ATX team are the judge, jury and executioners and their word is final. It doesn't matter if they are self absorbed and unaware of the views and needs of others. They know best.

But it's final so let it go. Please. We don't want to ruin our chances of ever entering again.


But unless the dev team changes completely you wont have a chance anyway? Didn't they make this perfectly clear?
Cody Zamorah
Doomheim
#22 - 2012-05-30 11:41:18 UTC
ScoRpS wrote:
Please let it go.

The ATX team are the judge, jury and executioners and their word is final. It doesn't matter if they are self absorbed and unaware of the views and needs of others. They know best.

But it's final so let it go. Please. We don't want to ruin our chances of ever entering again.


I would let it go if it couldn't set a dangerous precedent for future decisions.

Also if CCP is going to harm entities like Hydra and Outbreak by looking at the voices of people who have no connections to them they would fall in a pit too deep to climb out.
This isn't for you guys and girls of Hydra and Outbreak. You just happen to be the ones getting crushed by what seems a biased ruling build upon sand.
I know you have no chance of entering ATX simply because now all spots are gone anyways. Even if there were a revision you would stand outside the AT.

I cry out because this decision and the aftermath is a slap in the face of every players. Just that a lot of them just don't see it or don't see it yet.
All that has to happen is everyone to remain silent and next year we might end up with other victims who get slapped with consequences towards unproven idea's, suggestions and assumptions.
ScoRpS
Moist Wanted.
OnlyFleets.
#23 - 2012-05-30 11:42:43 UTC  |  Edited by: ScoRpS
Chekxxx wrote:
ScoRpS wrote:
Please let it go.

The ATX team are the judge, jury and executioners and their word is final. It doesn't matter if they are self absorbed and unaware of the views and needs of others. They know best.

But it's final so let it go. Please. We don't want to ruin our chances of ever entering again.


But unless the dev team changes completely you wont have a chance anyway? Didn't they make this perfectly clear?


They gave us the rope to hang ourselves with then stood back purposefully and claimed suicide. You only do that with folks you want to inflict damage on. With the inconsistencies that followed pertaining to the same rules would suggest that the remaining teams are pretty much free to do as they please without reprise as we, the targets of the specially designed rules, are out.

So its over. Let it go.
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#24 - 2012-05-30 11:48:28 UTC
ScoRpS wrote:
Chekxxx wrote:
ScoRpS wrote:
Please let it go.

The ATX team are the judge, jury and executioners and their word is final. It doesn't matter if they are self absorbed and unaware of the views and needs of others. They know best.

But it's final so let it go. Please. We don't want to ruin our chances of ever entering again.


But unless the dev team changes completely you wont have a chance anyway? Didn't they make this perfectly clear?


They gave us the rope to hang ourselves with then stood back purposefully and claimed suicide. You only do that with folks you want to inflict damage on. With the inconsistencies that followed pertaining to the same rules would suggest that the remaining teams are pretty much free to do as they please without reprise as we, the targets of the specially designed rules, are out.

So its over. Let it go.


How exactly does clarification hurt you?

And yes, I think what you guys did what was stupid, but if CCP honestly cared about the quality of matches in this AT, they would have stepped in and told you guys to knock it off rather than just remain silent on the sidelines.

:CCP: at its finest.
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#25 - 2012-05-31 18:42:17 UTC
Wondering why most threads here have got a response from CCP, except for this one..

Maybe I should send them an email?
Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#26 - 2012-05-31 23:30:47 UTC
Chekxxx wrote:
ScoRpS wrote:
Please let it go.

The ATX team are the judge, jury and executioners and their word is final. It doesn't matter if they are self absorbed and unaware of the views and needs of others. They know best.

But it's final so let it go. Please. We don't want to ruin our chances of ever entering again.


But unless the dev team changes completely you wont have a chance anyway? Didn't they make this perfectly clear?


No they did not make this perfectly clear, neither Hydra nor 0utbreak have been banned from future tournaments.
They wouldn't have been banned from this one either if their brains hadn't been offline.
Duncan Tanner
Genos Occidere
TRUTH. HONOUR. LIGHT.
#27 - 2012-06-01 00:37:53 UTC
Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:

They wouldn't have been banned from this one either if their brains hadn't been offline.


Our fault for being naive enough to think that trying to communicate with them in good faith was the correct approach.

Perhaps if we spent as much time sucking up to CCP devs as you do we would've known how petty they can be.

Good luck to you in the AT this year, perhaps your claims to fame will extend past losing uniques and fielding Moas.

.

CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#28 - 2012-06-01 01:23:18 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Sreegs
Duncan Tanner wrote:
Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:

They wouldn't have been banned from this one either if their brains hadn't been offline.


Our fault for being naive enough to think that trying to communicate with them in good faith was the correct approach.

Perhaps if we spent as much time sucking up to CCP devs as you do we would've known how petty they can be.

Good luck to you in the AT this year, perhaps your claims to fame will extend past losing uniques and fielding Moas.


Perhaps if, as was stated, your communications actually stated what you were doing this wouldn't be a repeated and tired refrain.

:edit: by all means keep posting this **** in every thread available I don't have a tournament to run and it's not ridiculous at all.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012

Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#29 - 2012-06-01 01:25:18 UTC
Thanks! I'll need it!

Trying to communicate in good faith is all very well and good, but your behavior was still pretty damn stupid for lots of reasons I won't bother rehashing.

I must be really bad at this sucking up to devs thing since Sreegs has actually forbidden me to set foot within CCP buildings xD (or more likely you're just full of **** in addition to being stupid)

As for my claims to fame, I have lots more than just uniques and moas, guess petty devs and following rules aren't the only subjects you're ignorant on :(
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#30 - 2012-06-01 01:28:33 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Sreegs
Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:
Thanks! I'll need it!

Trying to communicate in good faith is all very well and good, but your behavior was still pretty damn stupid for lots of reasons I won't bother rehashing.

I must be really bad at this sucking up to devs thing since Sreegs has actually forbidden me to set foot within CCP buildings xD (or more likely you're just full of **** in addition to being stupid)

As for my claims to fame, I have lots more than just uniques and moas, guess petty devs and following rules aren't the only subjects you're ignorant on :(


I have no idea what you are on about.

:edit: ugh I hate forums

:edit2: This whole post was stupid re reading it but I don't delete anything so let's see where it lands.

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012

Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#31 - 2012-06-01 01:31:35 UTC
Guess you were drunk, doesn't matter.
CCP Sreegs
CCP Retirement Home
#32 - 2012-06-01 01:33:26 UTC
Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:
Guess you were drunk, doesn't matter.


THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

"Sreegs has juuust edged out Soundwave as my favourite dev." - Meita Way 2012

Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#33 - 2012-06-01 01:34:42 UTC
NEVERMIND DON'T BAN ME FROM TOURNAMENT TIA
Suleiman Shouaa
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#34 - 2012-06-01 03:28:14 UTC
Sreegs can you please just answer the question "Can I please get a clarification on the requirements needed for a response to be given to an email sent to the official email address about the Alliance Tournament?"

Would be much appreciated.
Tyrrax Thorrk
Guiding Hand Social Club
#35 - 2012-06-01 03:36:27 UTC
Why do you keep asking that ? it's obviously at their own discretion, i.e. they answer the mail if they feel like it / have time / know the answer / aren't passed out in a gutter / don't think somebody else already answered it / don't get distracted by something shiny

I'm sure they try to respond to reasonable queries as they did for PL and RvB, but I doubt they have it very well organized, the alliance tournament tends to not be since it's done in people's free time in addition to their normal jobs.
(or that's how it was in the past anyway, dunno how it is this time)

They already said they messed up in not responding to Hydra/0utbreak so I dunno what you're looking for here..
Chekxxx
Doomheim
#36 - 2012-06-01 05:59:22 UTC
Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:

They already said they messed up in not responding to Hydra/0utbreak so I dunno what you're looking for here..


A slurred "mea culpa" buried between tens of "cool story bros" isn't exactly saying that. Also, usually people in positions of power who mess up are assumed to try to make amends and fix things instead of making up reasons why the mistake supposedly didn't matter... Just see below.


CCP Sreegs wrote:
Duncan Tanner wrote:
Tyrrax Thorrk wrote:

They wouldn't have been banned from this one either if their brains hadn't been offline.


Our fault for being naive enough to think that trying to communicate with them in good faith was the correct approach.

Perhaps if we spent as much time sucking up to CCP devs as you do we would've known how petty they can be.

Good luck to you in the AT this year, perhaps your claims to fame will extend past losing uniques and fielding Moas.


Perhaps if, as was stated, your communications actually stated what you were doing this wouldn't be a repeated and tired refrain.

:edit: by all means keep posting this **** in every thread available I don't have a tournament to run and it's not ridiculous at all.

Luis Graca
#37 - 2012-06-01 06:11:38 UTC
CCP can't do anything now (again) if CCP would let hydra outbreak and YOUR VOTES DON’T COUNT not only they will have to do another draft has also they would get lots of alliance complaining and these 3 alliances combined only have 600


(Damage control activated)
Ciar Meara
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2012-06-01 08:07:28 UTC
Suleiman Shouaa wrote:
Sreegs can you please just answer the question "Can I please get a clarification on the requirements needed for a response to be given to an email sent to the official email address about the Alliance Tournament?"

Would be much appreciated.


Depends on the question. Some questions, don't even warrant an answer.

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Kadesh Priestess
DEMONS OF THE HIDDEN MIST
TRUTH. HONOUR. LIGHT.
#39 - 2012-06-01 08:10:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Kadesh Priestess
CCP Sreegs wrote:
Perhaps if, as was stated, your communications actually stated what you were doing this wouldn't be a repeated and tired refrain.
Answer please (not a troll one this time)? It's like these posts contradict to what you've just said:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1367758#post1367758
marketjacker
Mr. Clean Corp..
#40 - 2012-06-01 09:54:17 UTC
I too really would like to know this but apparently reacting to trolls alone is the primary function of Sreegs in this thread, jesus f*ck.
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