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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#41 - 2012-05-31 21:26:24 UTC
Good luck.


Tal

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#42 - 2012-05-31 21:26:58 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Next time don't play sandbox games.


Or listen to tards like this.

Tal


Wolf Kruol
Suicide Squad Gamma
#43 - 2012-05-31 21:28:01 UTC
Twulf wrote:
Chunicha wrote:
Eve is a thinking game that requires you to adapt to the actions of others. You are obviously unable or unwilling to do this. I would suggest you avoid sandbox games in the future, as you don't appear to have the sort of mindset/expectations that would make one fun for you.


EvE is not a Sandbox game, please learn the definistion of a Sandbox. EvE has sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox game.

Currently EvE is controlled by pvpers, which means it is not a true sandbox because in a Sandbox, a single group/type of players cannot control the game. Its not hard to understand but you idiots just want to keep saying its a sandbox over and over again, it does not make it true.


Not totally true. Miners industry and other fields have just as much importance to eve as pvpers. Not our fault highsecer's imagine space is safe. Its not. Never was never will be. Indy corps need security thats a fact. If you don't protect your business it will fail. True there is no true sandbox out there. But eve is best example sandbox game out in the markets.

From what I hear however from older players is that ccp has taken away sandbox features than giving us pvpers more freedom.. They've done alot to make ganking less profitable than before. So you carebears CCP has made this game safer for you.

But space isn't ever truely safe. Twisted

“If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?

You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!”

gfldex
#44 - 2012-05-31 21:29:42 UTC
Minmatar Citizen 121123433 wrote:
I honestly believe most of these raging people, determined to preserve there rights to ruin your day are simply un happy people, lashing out the only way they know how, or the only way they can. Life probably sucks for them, so they feel the need to be mean in Eve, since there real lives probably suck that much.


Do you feel better now after you have looked down on somebody?

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.

Indahmawar Fazmarai
#45 - 2012-05-31 21:30:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Indahmawar Fazmarai
Jack Miton wrote:
Minmatar Citizen 121123433 wrote:

I ask this mostly because, it appears CCP is actually siding with the gankers here


you know CCP recently nerfed ganking to the ground right?
which ironically is exactly why it has now become so popular...
i see the current state of ganking to be a giant F U to CCP's caving to carebear tears and whines.


Yes, ganking is SOOO harmful that people is wiling to leave rather than gank another time. People are tired of losing ships worth 300 million to gank miners' little ships worth 3 million.

Whereas miners enjoy losing hulks, they do it all day. Hulks are for free as CCP spawns them in your bay fi you as much as lose one.

Yes, Ganking is HTFU full of backlash and consequences if you lose your gnaker ship whereas mining is completely harmless and losing a Hulk has no consequences.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#46 - 2012-05-31 21:31:32 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Next time don't play sandbox games.


Or listen to tards like this.

Tal




Amayzing post, double digit IQ at work.

The Tears Must Flow

Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#47 - 2012-05-31 21:33:01 UTC
Whats BSG online? Im looking for something to play while i wait for my Dust beta code. I'm tired too of the troll fest that EVE has become, its really not the same game as before.

It seems there may be quite a few who are getting tired and are quitting too because i just got an email from CCP offering a discounted price to resub.
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2012-05-31 21:35:27 UTC
THE L0CK wrote:
Price Check Aisle3 wrote:
Ban Bindy wrote:
Why don't you grow up and stop telling other people what to do? Eve is not a sandbox any more. It's a field of bullies.

Aren't you quitting?



He's been quitting for over a month now it seems.

Also I'll be sure to look up Minmatar Citizen 121123433 on BSG later on.


He's four days old with a name moderated by CCP and he's already quitting.
Calfis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2012-05-31 21:36:23 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Calfis wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Calfis wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:

Check the corp im in


I did, they don't and you don't Roll


Im sorry that I don't enjoy doing the things you enjoy doingRoll

"Fueled By Tears and the Fail Whale"

^You are the type of person that i just can't stand in ANY game Ugh


Ditto,

You posting a whine while referencing your non-existent PvP experience as if to bolster your point.

Can't stand guys like you either. Blink



Wait...i thought pvp was when i was trading stuff too ?! OH MAH GODS.
Please make up your damn mind, is pvp shooting other players only or interacting with anything player related ?
What whine ? You whined that i don't pvp :S, stop whining already, geeeeez.
Won't feed you anymore of my delicious tears though, you might gain weight.


Its cool, I get that you don't like it when people call you out. But this is the EVE Forums and when you BS you will be called on it. Blink
THE L0CK
Denying You Access
#50 - 2012-05-31 21:37:16 UTC
ModeratedToSilence wrote:
THE L0CK wrote:
Price Check Aisle3 wrote:
Ban Bindy wrote:
Why don't you grow up and stop telling other people what to do? Eve is not a sandbox any more. It's a field of bullies.

Aren't you quitting?



He's been quitting for over a month now it seems.

Also I'll be sure to look up Minmatar Citizen 121123433 on BSG later on.


He's four days old with a name moderated by CCP and he's already quitting.


We were talking about Ban Bindy.

Do you smell what the Lock's cooking?

Roisin Saoirse
Doomheim
#51 - 2012-05-31 21:40:01 UTC
Minmatar Citizen 121123433 wrote:
For those that actually made it thru my little ramble here I got to ask you, “Miners, care bear sorts please”. At what point will you determine that Eve isn’t fun any more, and it’s time to move on?

For me it started with the UI headache, the lag and bugs it introduced reminded me of too many previous CCP expansions/patches. I realised that CCP really isn't going to change its terrible practice of ignoring feedback and bug reports, and will continue using TQ as the main test server where things only get fixed over time as more and more people complain about them.

The extended Hulkageddon annoys me more for the manipulation behind it, and the griefing it's causing to legitimate 'professional' miners for whom mining is their primary (and in some cases only) form of income. While I understand it's a legitimate tactic and perfectly fine with regard to the rules, it really does feel like it's going to come back and bite the game pretty badly.

Either way, I'm out and have to admit it's a gloriously liberating feeling. Maybe now I'll manage to concentrate on learning Gaeilge and get some more guitar practice in. Lol

Valya Niell
Drunken Yordles
#52 - 2012-05-31 22:06:41 UTC
I would like to know how to get my hulk back honestly. One of my toons once lost an arbiter to a bug and the only reply i got back was nope, didn't see any bug cant have your ship back, our reimbursement policy is really strict. i realize it was only about 9mil of stuff, but i lost it to a bug, so tell me how to get a hulk back after a player ganks you and it was your fault for not being a pvp ganker. "it's a legitimate strategy (every time I've heard it) is used by people specifically being butt holes for breaking the game and then trying to hide behind the way they broke the rules. Now i realize that this is well within the rules all i see nerfing ganking do is it's going to be done more so that people can make up their losses for having to gank more people. but it takes, what, a few days to learn how to fly a ship to gank hulks and mackinaws in? it took me months to learn to fly my hulk, then more months to pay for it. I had been flying my first hulk a day before it got ganked. so it took me another month to get a new one. it takes what, two days of non full time eve playing to get a new catalyst? i don't mind that it's possible so much as it's horribly unbalanced. create an alt, train a few days, have your main give them the gear or the money for the gear and then a rinky dink little ship or two will net a reasonable profit from it. even if it's not quite like that, all the people I've met that do this that I've managed to talk to are the kind of people who'd do it for no profit. to me that means that this act has devolved to a form of griefing. that's all it is. i'm not purely a miner, especially since hulkageddon came back around. i CAN do stuff that isn't mining. but honestly i enjoy mining and don't think my experience should be sacrificed to those who like to ruin my experience. the same way some people wouldn't like me imobilizing their frieghter by repeatedly bumping it off course from warp in a shuttle or pod.

XTreme Industries: Take back your roids! winners not whiners. If you care about your game experience take it back or find a different game experience to hate. Goonsquad: now offering bounties to troll and flame. inquire within.

Minmatar Citizen 121123433
Doomheim
#53 - 2012-05-31 22:08:37 UTC
Oh, it’s an alt, gawd you got me. LMFAO. Had to be pretty smart to figure that out. Do you honestly think I would actually divulge who I am, are you really that soft between the eyes. This will in fact be my last post ever. Man I guess they didn't like my Blabber M0uth B11tch name. My apologies CCP.

I wanted to take a moment to issue a few thank you’s.

I would like to thank all my dear old friends from the former N.C., Your politics sucked
But the Clown Wars were one my funnest times in Eve. I’ve never seen it that good, I just remember the good ole days of major combat fleets embarking every 45 minutes. It was awesome, never been the same since. I also want to thank the remaining Members of Atalas, -A-, IT, all that fought against us. That was real serious PVP fun we all enjoyed to the max. Bummer is seeing my Razor, Get off my Lawn, and other former N.C. friends alighn themselves with this $hit.

I want to thank the CEO of –A- Clearly the best CEO I’ve ever had the privilege of flying with. –A- is the best.

I want to thank the infamous Pandemic Legion, the few time I had the privilege of operating with you guys were totally cool. Shadoo is a genuine great guy, that is committed to excellence.

I want to thank all my very cool care bear friends, I actually enjoyed flying with you guys very much. I know you all thought I was lost to PVP, MY actual intent was to come back for a bit, but I’m just not into it anymore.

I want to thank the Dev’s of CCP, for creating a “GAME” that kept my attention for 7 years. The modeling, rendering, and programmers that made this game possible. It was and is ground breaking. I own a company in California that does things very similar to what you’ve done here. Truthfully I’m astonished you have made this work so well with so many people logging in from all over the world. It’s pretty amazing, no matter what anyone says.

Lastly, I want to thank the GM’s. Listen you and I did have our ups and downs over the years. It’s not easy being an Eve GM, sometimes I’m sure it seems like everyone hates you. I don’t hate you, although I may have acted like I did many times. In truth I respect everything you guys do. It’s not easy. Good Luck to you.

CCP knows exactly who I am, they get my CC info. Any of my friends Red or Blue will know exactly who I am when they read this. If you don’t know who I am, I DON”T WANT YOU TO KNOW! For obvious reasons.

I wish everyone here the very best of luck, gankers, and friends alike. o/

Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#54 - 2012-05-31 22:15:11 UTC
Minmatar Citizen 121123433 wrote:
OK, I got to say this debate is pretty getting pretty old. This thread is an attempt to ask a simple question.

Ok, yea, most mining is a simi AFK sort of thing. I even do it that way. Set back set the miner to go, while paging between a few different clients. I never do it when I’m PVP’ing, but will usually be running toons running haulers, and such. I do market stuff too. Actually I do this mostly, my main source of income within the game.

I do PVP, haven’t been much of a ganker, not really interested in it honestly. I truly do believe the people that do this, are simply into ruining other peoples day period. I don’t think there is a mean one in the bunch, in the real world. I actually think quit the opposite.



You are the majority of miners in high sec. I'm sorry to see you go.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]

Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2012-05-31 22:26:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
Wolf Kruol wrote:
[quote=Twulf]Not totally true. Miners industry and other fields have just as much importance to eve as pvpers. Not our fault highsecer's imagine space is safe. Its not. Never was never will be. Indy corps need security thats a fact. If you don't protect your business it will fail. True there is no true sandbox out there. But eve is best example sandbox game out in the markets.

From what I hear however from older players is that ccp has taken away sandbox features than giving us pvpers more freedom.. They've done alot to make ganking less profitable than before. So you carebears CCP has made this game safer for you.

But space isn't ever truely safe. Twisted



It's not the fault of the "highseccers" that you imagine that they imagine high sec is "safe". It's never been safe; pvp in high sec is different than anywhere else in the game... but the risk is not all suicide ganking as some null seccers want to make believe.

  - remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not  "afk" cloaking -

[IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]

Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#56 - 2012-05-31 22:28:11 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Next time don't play sandbox games.


Or listen to tards like this.

Tal




Amayzing post, double digit IQ at work.



Don't get mad bro....


Tal
Jonni Favorite
Militant Industrialists LLC
Militant Consortium
#57 - 2012-05-31 22:31:01 UTC
Sorry to see miners taking this so harshly, I do understand your position, but really adapt or die should be your mantra in Eve.

I haven't really mined solo in years (on an alt) and of course I would watch a movie while doing it because frankly mining is relatively boring for me, but even so I would only do it under 2 conditions: find a remote system with very few people in it and/or mine only rocks I found in missions. Don't turn in your mission after clearing it and mine to your heart's content. Even so I was always watching local and, although this never happened, be prepared to warp out if anyone popped into the mission. Good luck either way..
Sebastian Flux
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#58 - 2012-05-31 22:38:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Sebastian Flux
I'm new to EVE, about a week or so. Can i just ask, why don't miners just join a corp and get someone from that corp to protect them while they mine and offer some of their reward as payment? Are there no corps that offer this kind of service? I find it hard to imagine. It sounds like solo-mining is just asking to get ganked. You will never change human nature, easy kill, easy reward, why not? Its been this way since the dawn of the genre. Ganking just human nature at work.

Coming into this game i expected 'protected' mining to be a thing of the norm, but you're telling me there's hundreds of people out there mining in dangerous space completely unprotected? Makes no sense. :S
SmilingVagrant
Doomheim
#59 - 2012-05-31 22:41:34 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Calfis wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:

Check the corp im in


I did, they don't and you don't Roll


Im sorry that I don't enjoy doing the things you enjoy doingRoll

"Fueled By Tears and the Fail Whale"

^You are the type of person that i just can't stand in ANY game Ugh


Why don't you quit about it?
Tanaka Sekigahara
United Space Marine Corp
#60 - 2012-05-31 22:42:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Tanaka Sekigahara
Chunicha wrote:
Eve is a thinking game that requires you to adapt to the actions of others. You are obviously unable or unwilling to do this. I would suggest you avoid sandbox games in the future, as you don't appear to have the sort of mindset/expectations that would make one fun for you.
I don't think thats what he is saying at all. He simply finds the current playstyle not enjoyable. To make a blanket statement that he "doesn't like sandbox games" is not some self evident truth as you seem to pose it.

Lemme ask you, if you go into the playground, and go into the sandbox, and all the little boys and girls are trying to stuff sand up their own butts, and you decide that particular game isn't for you, does that mean you don't like sandbox games??

It simply means you don't like THAT game.I, myself, would simply go looking for a different sandbox, as has the OP.