EVE General Discussion

Won't be as long as James315's since that reminded me of Mein Kampf, a very bulky volume in itself rattling on about how the Jews are the cause of all the world's problems, and so James 315s manifesto blames, in a shockingly similar way, all Eve's problems on hisec miners.

I don't mine in hisec, I just think they are unfairly made scapegoats of a Joseph Goebbels-like propaganda campaign.

I just want to analyse for a minute a gankers mindset, when scrolling through those killboards and seeing how so many gankers have all these Hulk kills under their belts.

Would anyone REALLY think highly of someone who used a Destroyer with 8 overheated guns to shoot down a Mining vessel with none?

I suspect the REAL reason gankers do what they do, is because they are TERRIFIED little souls, who shake all over at the very thought of fighting in nullsec, losec, WHs, yet desperately want recognition from other players through killboard stats.

Are the Goons courageous in financing Hulkageddon V? Hardly, their mining vessels are tucked away securely from all danger in their nullsec home, systems surrounded by blues.

Sure this is a sandbox, people do what they want, but psychoanalysis is interesting at times

Hisec miners are the real courageous ones, who, despite the terrible dangers to their expensive vessels, carry on enjoying their Eve hobby nonetheless, thinking up ingenious ways in staying alive.


I salute you Hisec miners , wish I was as brave as you are 07.

Yup. Braving our way over into other games, that's what.

Nothing to do with bravery here. The Goons and the mittani, in thinking they are doing everyone a favor, have targeted, in my case, the $60 a month I was willing to give to CCP.

Their falsity is proclaimed most loud in the falsehood of Miners wanting absolute safety. That is indeed propaganda, as it is far from the truth.

The truth is : there are limits.

The line has been crossed.

ITT: players mad that warship is able to easily destroy a merchant ship.


You think world powers were raging and crying like this in WWII when subs were sinking unarmed cargo ships left right and center? no. Grow a pair, adapt, this is EVE.

Zero to Godwin in thirty seconds. Zoom!

+1, though applying Godwin's Law in the opening paragraph was a bit like painting a target on your forehead. Not too far off the way I felt when struggling through James315's ridiculously overblown nonsense though, and halfway through I just decided he was mentally deranged and obsessive and never have managed to summon the :effort: to try to reread it.


The reason they're doing it is simple mathematics: it profits them to do so. As long as the Technetium imbalance remains, it will continue. The redistribution of moon goo (even better, making it depletable) would be a huge boon to the whole of EVE, and might even make nullsec less stagnant. I doubt it will happen though.

Umm, you do realise most of us who do ganking actually live and pvp in low or null sec all the time. Im a lowsec pirate, I gank because i find it an amusing way to fill a slow day not because it pads my killboard in any noticable way. As for the miners, the brave ones suck it up, accept the risks and adapt their tactics while the cowards, the stupid and the lazy beg Mummy CCP to save them and write ****** forum posts about ebil piwates.

Delusional carebear is delusional

That's fine and dandy, but after ganking we still 'hear' about it and get your Idiot Tear-Trolling posts. Have fun with that. Be proud.

Absolutely fantastic analogy to Mine Kampf, brilliant!

As a high sec miner myself, I don't really mind having a large alliance creating content for a certain niche to the discontent of another. The issue here is not who does what and if they should be allowed to do it, the issue is such a small and simple thing:

Make the cost of taking down a mining ship in highsec en par with obtaining a new one

This is really all I have a problem with. Continue with Gate Camping, Jita Scamming, Hauler Ganks, Miner Ganks, all things that makes you happy deep down your pants, as long as this imbalance is corrected.

So I can see two possible outcomes here; either some of the lighter ship models are made redundant as gank ships or the Exhumers become cheaper to manufacture (perhaps alternatively a new insurance system that factors in suicide ganking?).

As CCP I would look for a solution that somewhat mitigate the losses for the Miner-block of their customer base and at the same time allow for player-driven events like Hulkageddon to be possible.

I think I've seen you around Aridia.

Aren't you the guy that docks up every time there's someone who isn't you in local?

It's actually "Mein" Kampf. But that's just a quibble.

But then this is the high holy mother of ALL QUIBBLE Piles here, is it not ?