EVE General Discussion

Not sure, I don't really PVP.

Here is some ones view on players who like to keep it simple. Horse's Mouth

Because gankers are scared to PVP with ships which have guns

Because this is a PVP game, and most of the current crop of highseccers think they should be safe.

This hate is new, it wasn't here until around Incarna(the expansion geared to pull in the wow type players who wouldn't play because they had no avatar), so I would expect it to pass.

Probably pass once those wow players who refuse to HTFU finally move back to themepark MMOs

Because EvE is and should always be a reflection of life, the only thing fair in it is death.

Those who joined the game knowing that the premise was it being pvp centered and didn't wrap you in cotton wool are now fighting against the rising tide of entitled whiners who seem to believe that the game should change to benefit them and them alone.

They've drifted in from other games, probably lured by the shiny enticement of Walking in Stations, and now discover that the hand holding and cotton wool wrapping they enjoyed elsewhere isn't available in EVE. The players who appreciate EVE for what CCP made it are taking back the game.

The whiner's time has come, face the fact that the game isn't Hello Kitty, grow some balls and teeth or fall away like dead wood.

"The whiny carebear that wants to destroy EVE" is the second biggest myth ever, right after Bigfoot. I've never seen one on these forums. What I do see, however, is a lot douchebaggy "PvPers" who wants to ruin EVE by idiotic ideas such as removal of local and High-sec areas.

The hate, in my eyes, is unwarranted and most often down right hypocritical.

You assume all Hi-Sec players = carebear sperglords likr yourself. The hate is directed at the whiners that want to change the game we've loved for years. Also the overwhelming influx of these whiners is worrying.

Eve is the last stronghold of worthwhile on-line gaming. Quiet simply, what they want is certain death for eve.

What do they want? and how will it kill EVE?

We don't want them to play 'our' way, we want them to quit whining about their own stupid mistakes.

I lost an orca in nullsec recently because I was running back and forth from the system I mine in to the refinery station, and kept it up long enough for one of the cloakyfags in local of one of the systems I was in to notice. Did I once complain about cloakyfags, lack of ability to tank an orca strongly enough to survive a single cruiser(cynabal iirc), or anything else? No, I laughed, learned to use the JB network even for an orca that will burn up all its fuel(also joined the JB fueling team since I burn alot of the fuel nowadays) and then had to explain to my CEO how I stupidly lost a 800 mil ship and totally screwed up our corp killboard.

If you die and learn from it, you won't get griefed, because you will make it to hard to kill you. If you just keep dying over and over, you just keep painting a bigger and bigger X on your back for people to aim at. We are not expecting a bigger commitment, or for people to abandon their overall playstyle. We are expecting people to stop being so bloody ******* ********, and take steps to protect themselves.

Those who refuse to adapt to the changing circumstances in eve are doomed to failure, and good riddance. Those who do adapt, well, even if we hate what you do, we will still respect you for learning and adapting to EVE.