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Nostradamouse Riraille
S.M.U.G.G.L.E.
#21 - 2012-05-30 23:14:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Nostradamouse Riraille
Knus'lar wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Myth:Goons are creating EMERGENT GAMEPLAY.
FACT:EVE online is now GRIEF online.


FACT:You are a carebear, and your tears are good with steak.
MYTH: The game needs carebears for the economy and the game to work properly



Fact: The game needs carebears for the economy.
Myth : The game does not need nullbears for the economy.


Come on, all this stuff is required. Both griefers and carebears

Also : myth: Hulkageddon is unavoidable, you will die to griefers while mining.

Fact just go into a quiet system and STFU?
Sebastian N Cain
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2012-05-30 23:16:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Sebastian N Cain
Degren wrote:
SAVE THE PIGEON! THIS NOBLE CREATURE IS UNABLE TO ADAPT TO HUMAN SOCIETY

btw, great post OP

Very noble indeed. It´s very caring, constantly giving shlts on everything.Lol

I got lost in thought... it was unfamiliar territory.
Haldor Rune
State War Academy
Caldari State
#23 - 2012-05-30 23:16:54 UTC
Myths: Busted.
Facts: Confirmed.
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-05-30 23:16:56 UTC
Nostradamouse Riraille wrote:


Fact: The game needs carebears for the economy.
Myth : The game does not need nullbears for the economy.


Come on, all this stuff is required. Both griefers and carebears

Also : myth: Hulkageddon is unavoidable, you will die to griefers while mining.

Fact just go into a quiet system and STFU?


Please explain why the game needs carebears and nullbears. Please note to facilitate a clear and consice explanation the definitions of the terms nullbears and carebears need to be clarified.
Nostradamouse Riraille
S.M.U.G.G.L.E.
#25 - 2012-05-31 00:21:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Nostradamouse Riraille
There is absolutely 0 material obsolescence, ships don't wreck themselves, they do not break down, they do not need to go for mechanical checkups every 12 months lasting 1 month, they simply lay there, completely ignoring the test of time. They will last forever.


This brings us to the point of the evergrowing ammount of hulks and heavy duty ships like those in high security areas that simply won't die if nobody provokes it. It is quite obvious that you won't lose a ship by bumping an iceberg...


So, for this reason, those ships invulnerability need a fix for the production of such ships to continue. The fix required for this are the griefers. Ergo, this is why griefers are required. Griefers make the economy run as well as the carebears are by building the stuff that gets blown up.

And ****, do I really have to define null seccers, carebears and griefers? Learn those yourself.

Get real guys, it is the way of the eve economics. Ships need to be build and blown up for the economy not to fall to the ground.

See the blowing up of your ship as "planned obsolescence". Same thing your damn washing machine's manufacturer did when he sold it to you. It's probably why it's leaking all over the floor atm.
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#26 - 2012-05-31 00:34:04 UTC
Nostradamouse Riraille wrote:
There are absolutely 0 material obsolescence, ships don't wreck themselves, they do not break down, they do not need to go for mechanical checkups every 12 months, they simply lay there, completely ignoring the test of time. They will last forever.


This brings us to the point of the evergrowing ammount of hulks and heavy duty ships like those in high security areas that simply won't die if nobody provokes it. It is quite obvious that you won't lose a ship by bumping an iceberg...


So, for this reason, those ships invulnerability need a fix for the production of such ships to continue. The fix required for this are the griefers. This is why griefers are required. Griefers make the economy run as well as the carebears are by building the stuff that gets blown up.

And ****, do I really have to define null seccers, carebears and griefers? Learn those yourself.

Get real guys, it is the way of the eve economics. Ships need to be build and blown up for the economy not to fall to the ground.

See the blowing up of your ship as "planned obsolescence". Same thing your damn washing machine's manufacturer did when he sold it to you. It's probably why it's leaking all over the floor atm.


QFT

For life to grow and blossom it needs death.
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2012-05-31 02:31:14 UTC
lanyaie wrote:


Fact: you are a butthurt npc alt not revealing his real main account name.


Heh.

Na my main is permabanned from posting here. Has been for a long long time. I am not butt hurt. I am currently enjoying the increasing climate of fear that some in high sec are embracing.
Beekeeper Bob
Beekeepers Anonymous
#28 - 2012-05-31 02:40:27 UTC
ModeratedToSilence wrote:
Fact: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously
Myth: Eve Online is dying

FACT: Everything in Eve Online has a direct relationship to PVP
Myth: PVP is just shooting ships

FACT: For 0 inflation x needs to equal y where is x is sandcastles built and y is sand castles stomped
Myth: Building my own resources all by myself has no effect on anybody else

FACT: There are limited resources in Eve Online
Myth: Doing my own PVE does not take away opportunities from others

FACT: Emergent game play is a pillar of Eve Online's development and lore.
Myth: CCP should control player style

FACT: Eve Online high security space has been getting progressively safer for 36 months (since Apocrypha expansion)
Myth: Eve Online high security space is unplayable due to danger levels.

FACT: Inferno/Crucible changes restore the balance and tension between player styles that dominated Eve Online 2007-2009
Myth: Suicide ganking is too easy and has no consequences.

FACT: Every dog has its day and every dog will will fade away
Myth: CCP is owned by one alliance.

FACT: The playerbase needs to HTFU.
Myth: Eve Online is getting harder.




Do you have any facts to support your myth?

Signature removed - CCP Eterne
bongsmoke
Visine Red
420 Chronicles of EvE
#29 - 2012-05-31 02:46:24 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Darth Tickles wrote:
actually pretty good post

well done


What ever your smoking can I have some P

Tal




I bought some **** called train wreak, and its ******* expensive, and no you cant have none.

I offer the peace pipe quite a few times and people just spit in my face. So I quit sharing. Shame for a game with such an diverse amount of people against the peace pipe, makes me wanna smoke just to feel better. Sad
Torvin Yulus
Doomheim
#30 - 2012-05-31 02:48:00 UTC
Im glad I do level 2 missions so I cant get ganked now.

im a pubby and im proud
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2012-05-31 07:47:03 UTC
Torvin Yulus wrote:
Im glad I do level 2 missions so I cant get ganked now.


Just ignore the ninjas.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#32 - 2012-05-31 08:00:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Virgil Travis
Myth: thorry I have a lithp

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Infected69
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-05-31 09:09:42 UTC
ModeratedToSilence wrote:


Fact: Eve Online is dying
Myth: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously


8 months ago, when i last went afk i was logging into 45k+ people online, now since i have been back its lucky if there is over 20k.
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2012-05-31 09:14:14 UTC
Infected69 wrote:
ModeratedToSilence wrote:


Fact: Eve Online is dying
Myth: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously


8 months ago, when i last went afk i was logging into 45k+ people online, now since i have been back its lucky if there is over 20k.


1. Numbers online when you want to be online =/= subscriptions
2. In 2007 30000 online was a big deal
3. in 2005 20000 online was a big deal
4. Its summer in the northern hemisphere
5. A bunch of summer games have just been released
Samantha Utama
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-05-31 09:23:00 UTC
Myth: Your clothes are black
Fact: Your clothes are red!
Il Feytid
State War Academy
Caldari State
#36 - 2012-05-31 09:25:25 UTC
This looks like a fun thread actually. Big smile

Myth: High security space is the safest part of the game.
Fact: Null security space actually is.
Infected69
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#37 - 2012-05-31 09:28:35 UTC
ModeratedToSilence wrote:
Infected69 wrote:
ModeratedToSilence wrote:


Fact: Eve Online is dying
Myth: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously


8 months ago, when i last went afk i was logging into 45k+ people online, now since i have been back its lucky if there is over 20k.


1. Numbers online when you want to be online =/= subscriptions
2. In 2007 30000 online was a big deal
3. in 2005 20000 online was a big deal
4. Its summer in the northern hemisphere
5. A bunch of summer games have just been released



Tbh dont care about subscriptions, The actual lack of people playing is more representative of eve dying, not ccp's income.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#38 - 2012-05-31 09:30:28 UTC
Infected69 wrote:
ModeratedToSilence wrote:
Infected69 wrote:
ModeratedToSilence wrote:


Fact: Eve Online is dying
Myth: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously


8 months ago, when i last went afk i was logging into 45k+ people online, now since i have been back its lucky if there is over 20k.


1. Numbers online when you want to be online =/= subscriptions
2. In 2007 30000 online was a big deal
3. in 2005 20000 online was a big deal
4. Its summer in the northern hemisphere
5. A bunch of summer games have just been released



Tbh dont care about subscriptions, The actual lack of people playing is more representative of eve dying, not ccp's income.


Lack of people playing? You're probably not very good at math.

The Tears Must Flow
ModeratedToSilence
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#39 - 2012-05-31 09:31:15 UTC
Infected69 wrote:
ModeratedToSilence wrote:
Infected69 wrote:
ModeratedToSilence wrote:


Fact: Eve Online is dying
Myth: Eve Online has grown year on year for 9 years continuously


8 months ago, when i last went afk i was logging into 45k+ people online, now since i have been back its lucky if there is over 20k.


1. Numbers online when you want to be online =/= subscriptions
2. In 2007 30000 online was a big deal
3. in 2005 20000 online was a big deal
4. Its summer in the northern hemisphere
5. A bunch of summer games have just been released



Tbh dont care about subscriptions, The actual lack of people playing is more representative of eve dying, not ccp's income.


That discounts point 1 in what some would argue is a legitimate manner - a point I can see but not really agree with. What about points 2-5
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#40 - 2012-05-31 09:33:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Vaju Enki
Myth: Carebears whiners joined EvE because of the Player-Driven Sandbox.
Fact: Carebears whiners just want to play WoW in space.

The Tears Must Flow
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