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Caldari Militia, the only Militia..
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Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#21 - 2012-05-31 08:48:16 UTC
As a newcomer to FW with no actual experience yet, I'd be interested to know what it took to conquer Tama. Cap fleet? 30 Drakes? 10? And how long did it take?

(And btw, why do I read everywhere on the forums that Caldari do guerilla warfare because we are outnumbered by Gallente, but ingame the FW tab claims that Caldari have siginificantly more warzone control than Gallente?)

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marketjacker
Mr. Clean Corp..
#22 - 2012-05-31 09:04:53 UTC
Oh **** I can't dock in Tama anymore.....oh wait.

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#23 - 2012-05-31 09:52:10 UTC
Terrorfrodo wrote:
As a newcomer to FW with no actual experience yet, I'd be interested to know what it took to conquer Tama. Cap fleet? 30 Drakes? 10? And how long did it take?

(And btw, why do I read everywhere on the forums that Caldari do guerilla warfare because we are outnumbered by Gallente, but ingame the FW tab claims that Caldari have siginificantly more warzone control than Gallente?)


It took them a lot of pve and then just a little waiting till there was no gallente online to defend it. Basically.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#24 - 2012-05-31 10:10:41 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Well we had fun defending kedama this afternoon since it went vulnerable when some of us were actually online lol.


I see by dot lan that went well for you guys.. Lol

Congrats Caldari for being the Only Militia to capture two systems under the new Sov system..
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#25 - 2012-05-31 10:56:48 UTC
I hear there are nice vacation POS's for sale in Iwisoda. Caldari still only at +1. (Nice job on Ked btw)
Joanna Ramirez
Intaki Militia
#26 - 2012-05-31 11:05:04 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
I hear there are nice vacation POS's for sale in Iwisoda. Caldari still only at +1. (Nice job on Ked btw)


Took you long enough but we figured it was not worth trying to hold into it due to it's sub-optimal position and lack of station.

Besides, I had a theory that SLAPD might not want to even take it but keep it continuously "on the brink" since with new mechanics it's pretty much in a prime spot for LP farming. I mean, that's pretty much what I would do with Vifrevaert if I still lived in Ladistier.
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2012-05-31 13:30:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Andre Vauban
Terrorfrodo wrote:
As a newcomer to FW with no actual experience yet, I'd be interested to know what it took to conquer Tama. Cap fleet? 30 Drakes? 10? And how long did it take?

(And btw, why do I read everywhere on the forums that Caldari do guerilla warfare because we are outnumbered by Gallente, but ingame the FW tab claims that Caldari have siginificantly more warzone control than Gallente?)


I heard they took it with a fleet of about 30 BCs. Gallente dominate US and EU TZ. Gallente will win most fleet fight during these times, but Caldari have more active pilots that spread out, run plexes everywhere, and do very well in small gang fights where they can avoid the Gallente "Jesus Blob". Caldari dominate AU timezone. You can kind of think of it as the Gallente win most of the battles, but are losing the war.

The Caldari are capturing around 150 more plexes per day than the Gallente, so that is around 50 man hours a day of extra plexing. It's now just a matter of whose morale breaks first IE do the Gallente give up or do enough Caldari grow weary of sitting on buttons that the Gallente can get the upper hand again.

The ingame militia member count is totally useless. That is the total number of pilots enlisted in the militia since 2008. There are TONS of inactive accounts in that number. They should really remove it as it provides no value.

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BolsterBomb
Perkone
Caldari State
#28 - 2012-05-31 13:44:07 UTC
Andre Vauban wrote:


The Caldari are capturing around 150 more plexes per day than the Gallente, so that is around 50 man hours a day of extra plexing. It's now just a matter of whose morale breaks first IE do the Gallente give up or do enough Caldari grow weary of sitting on buttons that the Gallente can get the upper hand again.
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We get fights orbiting buttons, I dont know why people keep saying that. I even had someone drop in on my test fit last night.

*shakesfist at cat casidy*


Really if you keep taking the mindset orbiting buttons is orbiting buttons, by all means do it.

You will be locked out of most systems in a month or so I predict.

Brig General of The Caldari State

"Don" Bolsterbomb

Traitor and Ex Luminaire General of The Gallente Federation
Andre Vauban
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-05-31 13:58:01 UTC
BolsterBomb wrote:
Andre Vauban wrote:


The Caldari are capturing around 150 more plexes per day than the Gallente, so that is around 50 man hours a day of extra plexing. It's now just a matter of whose morale breaks first IE do the Gallente give up or do enough Caldari grow weary of sitting on buttons that the Gallente can get the upper hand again.
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We get fights orbiting buttons, I dont know why people keep saying that. I even had someone drop in on my test fit last night.

*shakesfist at cat casidy*


Really if you keep taking the mindset orbiting buttons is orbiting buttons, by all means do it.

You will be locked out of most systems in a month or so I predict.


Bolster, you don't understand what I'm saying. There are two distinct types of Caldari at this point. Those that PVP and those that farm LP. If it's State Pro people, I've bum rushed plexes with 1:3 to 1:5 odds against me, and they run. If you sit in the plex, they go one system over and start a plex there. If you follow them, they run to another plex somewhere else. On the other hand, then there are Caldari that will fight for every plex. I get 90% of my fights in plexes, I actually love it. When I talk about sitting on a button, I'm referring to the LP farmers. If we can break their morale and get them to farm isk elsewhere, then things will turn around for the Gallente. The PVP Caldari are hardcore and their morale won't break.

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Terrorfrodo
Interbus Universal
#30 - 2012-05-31 14:26:40 UTC
Andre Vauban wrote:
I heard they took it with a fleet of about 30 BCs. Gallente dominate US and EU TZ. Gallente will win most fleet fight during these times, but Caldari have more active pilots that spread out, run plexes everywhere, and do very well in small gang fights where they can avoid the Gallente "Jesus Blob". Caldari dominate AU timezone. You can kind of think of it as the Gallente win most of the battles, but are losing the war.

The Caldari are capturing around 150 more plexes per day than the Gallente, so that is around 50 man hours a day of extra plexing. It's now just a matter of whose morale breaks first IE do the Gallente give up or do enough Caldari grow weary of sitting on buttons that the Gallente can get the upper hand again.

The ingame militia member count is totally useless. That is the total number of pilots enlisted in the militia since 2008. There are TONS of inactive accounts in that number. They should really remove it as it provides no value.


Good info, thanks :)

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Princess Nexxala
Zero Syndicate
#31 - 2012-05-31 15:36:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Princess Nexxala
Excellent I can now farm LP while killing stupid pies that don't know how to fly anything smaller then a BC P

Thank you Caldari Milita!!!


Oh and BTW, the Minnies did it firstOops

nom nom
LooknSee
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2012-05-31 16:56:59 UTC
Mutnin wrote:
...to capture a system under the new FW game mechanics. The system was Tama no less, a well known system throughout all of EVE as a popular hot spot for pirate types and for people whom want to blow up internet space ships.

Cheers to all those that plexed it and the ones whom showed up to shoot down the bunker, which gave about as much resistance as the Galentte Militia did. The resistance being pretty much null & void. (ie they didn't show)

Tama used to be with-in the 4 or 5 jump radius, Gal Militia was willing to travel to get a fight, but seems it was just a bit too far out of their safety net last night.

Youtube video of the fight for Tama..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkfVdrtLcRs&ob=av3e



In addition to your post being blatantly incorrect, I find your use of 'whom' disturbing. If you don't know how to use it, just be like 99.9% of the English-speaking world: Pretend it doesn't exist and use 'who' for everything; you'll even be right most the time. Thank me later.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#33 - 2012-05-31 20:19:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Andre Vauban wrote:


Bolster, you don't understand what I'm saying. There are two distinct types of Caldari at this point. Those that PVP and those that farm LP. If it's State Pro people, I've bum rushed plexes with 1:3 to 1:5 odds against me, and they run. If you sit in the plex, they go one system over and start a plex there. If you follow them, they run to another plex somewhere else. On the other hand, then there are Caldari that will fight for every plex. I get 90% of my fights in plexes, I actually love it. When I talk about sitting on a button, I'm referring to the LP farmers. If we can break their morale and get them to farm isk elsewhere, then things will turn around for the Gallente. The PVP Caldari are hardcore and their morale won't break.



Do you not think that we don't see the same thing with Gal Incursus alts running plexes all over not bothering to kill NPC's and running at first sight of someone entering their plexes? Most of the time they have already warped away prior to entering the plex.

Please don't act as if this farming of plexes is somehow unique to Caldari, because that is far from reality. I don't blame them though as that issues could have easily been solved by making killing all the NPC's required for completing the plex.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#34 - 2012-05-31 20:23:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Andre Vauban wrote:
Terrorfrodo wrote:
As a newcomer to FW with no actual experience yet, I'd be interested to know what it took to conquer Tama. Cap fleet? 30 Drakes? 10? And how long did it take?

(And btw, why do I read everywhere on the forums that Caldari do guerilla warfare because we are outnumbered by Gallente, but ingame the FW tab claims that Caldari have siginificantly more warzone control than Gallente?)


I heard they took it with a fleet of about 30 BCs. Gallente dominate US and EU TZ. Gallente will win most fleet fight during these times, but Caldari have more active pilots that spread out, run plexes everywhere, and do very well in small gang fights where they can avoid the Gallente "Jesus Blob". Caldari dominate AU timezone. You can kind of think of it as the Gallente win most of the battles, but are losing the war.

The Caldari are capturing around 150 more plexes per day than the Gallente, so that is around 50 man hours a day of extra plexing. It's now just a matter of whose morale breaks first IE do the Gallente give up or do enough Caldari grow weary of sitting on buttons that the Gallente can get the upper hand again.

The ingame militia member count is totally useless. That is the total number of pilots enlisted in the militia since 2008. There are TONS of inactive accounts in that number. They should really remove it as it provides no value.



This is because you guys live all hurdled up with-in 3 to 4 systems of each other and never leave a radius of 5 jumps away from those home systems. You guys have the numbers & the ability to spread out and combat Caldari but instead you guys hide in your blobs, scared of what might happen if you had to fight close to even numbers in small gang combat.

Caldari these days all live somewhat close to one another or at least in groups here and there but the difference is we are willing to leave our home systems and go out to hunt / hit your systems out side your blob zone where you guys can't fly with out boosters & easy reships.
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#35 - 2012-05-31 20:25:13 UTC  |  Edited by: X Gallentius
Caldari Propoganda Fact Check: Tama and Kedama are within one and two jumps of the Gallente home systems.

Real question is whether or not Caldari can keep up with blistering plex capture pace. 100k VP / week is amazing, tbh.
Cat Casidy
Percussive Diplomacy
Sedition.
#36 - 2012-05-31 21:28:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Cat Casidy
BolsterBomb wrote:
Andre Vauban wrote:


The Caldari are capturing around 150 more plexes per day than the Gallente, so that is around 50 man hours a day of extra plexing. It's now just a matter of whose morale breaks first IE do the Gallente give up or do enough Caldari grow weary of sitting on buttons that the Gallente can get the upper hand again.
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We get fights orbiting buttons, I dont know why people keep saying that. I even had someone drop in on my test fit last night.

*shakesfist at cat casidy*


Really if you keep taking the mindset orbiting buttons is orbiting buttons, by all means do it.

You will be locked out of most systems in a month or so I predict.


Dropped in on your test fit? Is that how you describe finishing a minor, then warping up to the outpost I was in in my vengance and burning straight into web/scram range in this? If you're too lazy to look, it's a thrasher with 4 200mm ac's and 3 280 howitzers and the only ammo he was carrying was hail and quake.
"I burned out my guns" -Bolsterbomb, after heroically pushing an armor frigate to half shield.

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#37 - 2012-05-31 22:33:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Mutnin wrote:
Andre Vauban wrote:
Terrorfrodo wrote:
As a newcomer to FW with no actual experience yet, I'd be interested to know what it took to conquer Tama. Cap fleet? 30 Drakes? 10? And how long did it take?

(And btw, why do I read everywhere on the forums that Caldari do guerilla warfare because we are outnumbered by Gallente, but ingame the FW tab claims that Caldari have siginificantly more warzone control than Gallente?)


I heard they took it with a fleet of about 30 BCs. Gallente dominate US and EU TZ. Gallente will win most fleet fight during these times, but Caldari have more active pilots that spread out, run plexes everywhere, and do very well in small gang fights where they can avoid the Gallente "Jesus Blob". Caldari dominate AU timezone. You can kind of think of it as the Gallente win most of the battles, but are losing the war.

The Caldari are capturing around 150 more plexes per day than the Gallente, so that is around 50 man hours a day of extra plexing. It's now just a matter of whose morale breaks first IE do the Gallente give up or do enough Caldari grow weary of sitting on buttons that the Gallente can get the upper hand again.

The ingame militia member count is totally useless. That is the total number of pilots enlisted in the militia since 2008. There are TONS of inactive accounts in that number. They should really remove it as it provides no value.



This is because you guys live all hurdled up with-in 3 to 4 systems of each other and never leave a radius of 5 jumps away from those home systems. You guys have the numbers & the ability to spread out and combat Caldari but instead you guys hide in your blobs, scared of what might happen if you had to fight close to even numbers in small gang combat.

Caldari these days all live somewhat close to one another or at least in groups here and there but the difference is we are willing to leave our home systems and go out to hunt / hit your systems out side your blob zone where you guys can't fly with out boosters & easy reships.


We like pvp. For example, i undocked a thrasher in nis and warped to hirri this morning after logging on. In hirri i found two corms running a minor. So warped to minor and entered. Approached corms, corms left. Chased them 2 jumps but still no pvp. I might have died, but wouldve taken one down, but that wouldve interfered with their bearing activities so no deal apparently. Rinse repeat all day apart from a small skirmish on the aki gate in aivonen.

Its all too easy for peoples compulsive FW PVE activities to effect other peoples general FW gameplay and search for PVP.
The changes basically encourage far more evasion, than conflict as plexers just avoid each other and pvpers.

Tbh its more broken than it ever has been imo. I should not be encouraged to spin around a button for up to 50 minutes with no other activity, that is just a broken concept.
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
#38 - 2012-06-01 11:01:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Mutnin
Good Work Caldari.. Another TWO station systems captured while I was at work.. Hallanen & Aivonen are now back in the hands of Caldari State.


Curious why Gals couldn't hold Aiv being it was captured 22:41 EVE time which is well with-in the time zone Gals claim control over..
Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#39 - 2012-06-01 11:03:35 UTC
Vordak Kallager wrote:
Sorry bro, I led the fleet that captured Raa last week on Thursday, I think it was. But, congrats on taking Tama.

Warzones that can fit in a phone booth don't count.

I guess once you have a signature, you cannot have a blank one.
Dirk Smacker
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#40 - 2012-06-01 11:17:11 UTC
There are a decent number of new corps in Caldari militia that came from null, which explains some of what is going on in the warzone. However, why do I get the feeling the large swaths of people who were only in FW to run missions are now only in FW to run buttons? Shocked

I guess once you have a signature, you cannot have a blank one.