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@CCP - Renaming Large Autocannons..
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Bibosikus
Air
#1 - 2012-05-30 00:16:28 UTC
This is a monir quibble in the grand scheme of things but..

Inferno saw some good stuff done with naming conventions.

Please do the same with Large Autocannons.

Half of them are named 'Artillery', 'Siege Cannon' or Howitzer'.

There's a place for those names, and it's called the "Large Artillery Cannons' group.

Small wonder there's a fair bit of confusion over which gun is in what group eh?


It'd be good if would rename them to something more close-rangey, pwney, in-your-facey. Please.


Or just edit/place with 'Autocannon". That would do fine.

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Alara IonStorm
#2 - 2012-05-30 00:26:31 UTC
Bibosikus wrote:

Small wonder there's a fair bit of confusion over which gun is in what group eh?

Maybe it is just me but I like to think most EVE Players are smart enough to see both the word repeating and the icon which doesn't match Artillery and immediately make the connection that they are just really big Autocannon with no confusion.

The fact that I have never heard of this being an issue from anyone before today gives me hope.
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#3 - 2012-05-30 01:08:21 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:


The fact that I have never heard of this being an issue from anyone before today gives me hope.


Back when I was a noob in highsec, it confused me when fitting up a missioning maelstrom
Arazel Chainfire
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2012-05-30 02:00:31 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
Bibosikus wrote:

Small wonder there's a fair bit of confusion over which gun is in what group eh?

Maybe it is just me but I like to think most EVE Players are smart enough to see both the word repeating and the icon which doesn't match Artillery and immediately make the connection that they are just really big Autocannon with no confusion.

The fact that I have never heard of this being an issue from anyone before today gives me hope.


You obviously haven't been paying too much attention to this forum then, or battleclinic etc. I regularly see complaints about this, and always cry a little inside when I see someone asking why I was fitting artillery to x ship when they called for autocannons. This happens far too often with the idiots who speak before actually engaging their brain, and the satisfaction of calling them numbskulls and morons pales after the hundreth or so time...

-Arazel
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2012-05-30 07:34:53 UTC
Projectile Turrets are by far the most straightforward category of turrets when it comes to identifying which is which (Laser Turrets confuse me to no end).

But yeah, could do with a re-naming to make them appear less Artillery like. But I think the point is that when we're talking Large Projectile Turrets, they have reached the point where they aren't "gatling guns" anymore but fast-firing artillery.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Colonel Xaven
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2012-05-30 10:38:47 UTC
EvE is hard to learn and hard to master. I like that.

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Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#7 - 2012-05-30 12:55:12 UTC
No
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Thelron
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#8 - 2012-05-30 13:17:59 UTC
Right, because conflicting terminology adds SO much depth to a game. That must be why only toddlers can stand to play a stupid shallow game like chess.
Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2012-05-30 14:44:45 UTC
Agreed. There is being difficult to grasp, and then there is being intentionally difficult to grasp.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#10 - 2012-05-30 14:57:02 UTC
I still hate them for renaming the afterburners and MWDs...

"I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion."
Zenos Ebeth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-05-30 15:03:42 UTC
Bridgette d'Iberville wrote:
I still hate them for renaming the afterburners and MWDs...


This.

WHERE IS MY COLD ARC-JET THRUSTER CCP ???

The projectile are easely the most identifiable guns in the game , don't look at the name , look at the number (800mm = AC 1400mm = arty ,ect..)

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Copine Callmeknau
Dirty Vagrants
Intergalactic Space Hobos
#12 - 2012-05-30 15:23:56 UTC
Thelron wrote:
Right, because conflicting terminology adds SO much depth to a game. That must be why only toddlers can stand to play a stupid shallow game like chess.


Tor Gungnir wrote:
Agreed. There is being difficult to grasp, and then there is being intentionally difficult to grasp.

Yes you're both right

But to make it even less confusing they should just change gun names to
'Large Amarr Gun', 'Large Minmatar Gun' 'Large Gallente Gun'

I think this would make eve much funner and a much easier place to learn how to fly spaceships good and do other good fun stuff good too.

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#13 - 2012-05-30 16:32:16 UTC
My 1400mm howitzer has two barrels 0.o

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Liam Mirren
#14 - 2012-05-31 08:06:52 UTC
Part of me agrees that making names more logical is good (CCP is very good at making stuff dumb for no reason whatsoever), part of me goes :bitter vet: and doesn't want to change. As someone above stated, Projectiles are by far the easiest to identify so I guess a "deal with it" might suffice, I wouldn't mind them renaming it but CCP has shown to be bad at stuff like that, see missile renaming, so I'd rather have them leave it be.

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Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-05-31 08:09:12 UTC
On a side note; I haven't used Laser nor Hybrid Turrets. When I look at Hybrid Turrets, the distinction is easy to make; Blasters=Autocannons and Railguns=Artillery.

But then I take a look at the Laser Turrets and my face goes Shocked

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Mfume Apocal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2012-05-31 08:17:44 UTC
EVE is hard.
Liam Mirren
#17 - 2012-05-31 08:23:46 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
On a side note; I haven't used Laser nor Hybrid Turrets. When I look at Hybrid Turrets, the distinction is easy to make; Blasters=Autocannons and Railguns=Artillery.

But then I take a look at the Laser Turrets and my face goes Shocked


Try to explain to a newbie that a HEAVY ion blaster really is for cruisers :P

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Invisusira
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#18 - 2012-05-31 11:53:13 UTC
Tor Gungnir wrote:
But then I take a look at the Laser Turrets and my face goes Shocked

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Bibosikus
Air
#19 - 2012-05-31 15:39:12 UTC
Invisusira wrote:
Tor Gungnir wrote:
But then I take a look at the Laser Turrets and my face goes Shocked

Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beam here, you may remember me from such films as "I'm Not a Medium Weapon" and "I'm Not a Beam Weapon."


Gawd.. I've just looked at the laZors list and it's far more confusing than even Autocannons - which I only brought up because they're what I use mostly Shocked

I mean, fifteen different Meta 0-4 small pulse laser turrets? Seriously?

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
#20 - 2012-05-31 15:42:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Bridgette d'Iberville
Bibosikus wrote:
[quote=Invisusira]
I mean, fifteen different Meta 0-4 small pulse laser turrets? Seriously?

Pretty sure Hybrids are the same.
Light Electron Blaster, Light Ion Blaster, and Light Neutron Blasters (Meta 0-4 for each one).

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