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Spilling blood for a cause! (CCP Promotion: Support charitable blood donations)

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Nightshade Mary
Darkwater Innovations
#21 - 2012-05-30 07:16:29 UTC
Loving this idea.

So where do I send the blood I harvest? CCP main office?

(Seriously though, great idea)
Trollin
Perkone
Caldari State
#22 - 2012-05-30 10:54:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Trollin
i dont think a ship is in order, and there are lots of people who cant participate, plus it would be an onerous task to "vet" a bunch of "evidence", this game is full of scammers and psychos. I cant imagine people will play fair when it comes to a collectable ship

maybe a decal that can be applied to ships, but def not a ship.


You can't donate blood if...

1. had a positive antibody test for HIV (AIDS virus).
2. not feeling well for any reason.
3. had cancer.
4. had a stroke.
5. had a blood transfusion within the last 12 months.
6. had Chagas disease.
7. ever had myocardial infraction, coronary artery bypass surgery.
8. had hepatitis any time after your eleventh birthday.
9. had open-heart surgery within the past three years.
10. had Tuberculosis (T.B.), you may not give until two years after the completion of treatment.
11. a cold.
12. multiple sclerosis.
13. used narcotic drugs by intravenous route (injection into a vein directly), even once.
14. had the measles then you must wait until 3 weeks from the day of exposure.
15. pregnant, you can't donate until six weeks after delivery.
16. had syphilis in the past 12 months.
17. taken antibiotics, you can't give until two days after a treatment is over if they are for an infection.
18. had an abortion or miscarriage then you must wait six weeks if it is in the first trimester (12 weeks).
19. sniffed cocaine or any other restricted drug in the last 12 months.
20. a woman who is menstruating know it is safer to donate a week after.
21. difficulty breathing, shortness of breath, or asthma, know you must have no difficulty breathing on the day of donation.
22. a commercial sex worker.
23. had hepatitis in the mast 12 months.
24. had jaundice in the past 12 months.
25. had a tattoo in the past 6 months.
26. had semi-permanent make up or cosmetic treatments that involve skin piercing in the past six months.
27. received human pituitary extract (a growth hormone/fertility treatment before 1985).
28. ever had syphilis.
29. weigh less than 110 lbs.
30. under 17 in most states, unless you are 16 with parental consent if allowed by state law.
31. male and are shorter than 5'1".
32. male and weigh less than 130.
32. female and are shorter than 5'5".
33. female and weigh less than 150.
34. low hemoglobin/hematocrit levels.
35. an acute infection you should not donate.
36. received immunizations for German Measles (Rubella), MMR (Measles, Mumps & Tubella), Chicken Pox, or Shingles, then you must wait 4 weeks.
37. received immunizations for Red Measles (Rubeola), Mumps, Polio (by mouth), and Yellow Fever, then wait two weeks.
38. ever used bovine (beef) insulin made from cattle from the UK, you are not eligible to donate.
39. on blood thiner.
40. a blood clotting disorder.
41. r blood pressure is above 180 systolic and 100 diastolic, or r blood pressure is under 80 systolic and 50 diastolic.
42. Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD), or a first-degree blood relative with CJD.
43. had Malaria then wait 3 years after completing treatment.
44. sickle cell disease.
45. had oral surgery in the past 3 days.
46. had gonorrhea in the past 12 months.
47. traveled to Iraq in the last 12 months. This is related to concerns about Leishmanaisis.
48. hemochromatosis the American Red Cross will not accept you.
49. a sore throat.
50. a respiratory infection.
51. the flu.
52. already donated whole blood within the last 8 weeks.
53. had a heart attack in the last 6 months.
54. had a bypass surgery in the last 6 months.
55. had angioplasty in the last 6 months.
56. had an episode of angina in the last 6 months.
57. a pacemaker, you may not donate r pulse is below 50 beats per minute, or above 100. You must also have a small number of irregular beats and you must meet the other heart disease criteria.
58. suffered from symptoms of a heart murmur in the last 6 months.
59. not given the immunization for exposure to hepatitis B, wait 21 days after immunization.
60. received a smallpox vaccination, you are asked to wait 8 weeks (56 days).
61. If, from January 1, 1980 through December 31, 1996, you spent (visited or lived) a cumulative time of 3 months or more in the United Kingdom.
62. If, from January 1, 1980, to present, you had a blood transfusion in any country in the United Kingdom.
63. were born in or lived in Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Congo, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Niger, & Nigeria since 1977, you are not eligible.
64. traveled in an area where Malaria is found, you're asked to wait 12 months.
65. spent a long period of time in countries where "mad cow disease" is found, you are not eligible.
66. the mumps, then you must wait until three weeks from the day of exposure.
67. the chicken pox, then you must wait until three weeks from the day of exposure.
68. Addison's Disease, you should not give blood.
69. Adrenal Disorder, you should not give blood.
70. a sinus infection, you should not give blood.
71. on steroids, you should not give blood.
72. on immunosuppressive drugs, you should not give blood.
73. Rheumatoid Arthritis, you should not give blood.
74. Lupus, you should not give blood.
75. hare a hemophilia, you can't give blood.
76. taken Tegison for psoriasis, you can't give blood.
77. received any type of organ transplant from another person, you can't give blood for 12 months.
78. male and have had sex with another male, you can't donate blood.

We are our own worst enemy.

Gilbaron
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-05-30 12:34:39 UTC
Trollin wrote:
i dont think a ship is in order, and there are lots of people who cant participate, plus it would be an onerous task to "vet" a bunch of "evidence", this game is full of scammers and psychos. I cant imagine people will play fair when it comes to a collectable ship

maybe a decal that can be applied to ships, but def not a ship.


You can't donate blood if...

1. had a positive antibody test for HIV (AIDS virus).
2. not feeling well for any reason.
3. had cancer.

[---]

76. taken Tegison for psoriasis, you can't give blood.
77. received any type of organ transplant from another person, you can't give blood for 12 months.
78. male and have had sex with another male, you can't donate blood.


you can donate with about all non-serious health issues, but you have to make sure you check the "my blood is not qualified for human transfusion checkbox, at least in germany

the fact that you checked that checkbox is only visible to you and in the blood bank, at a point where your name is no longer visible for the handler
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#24 - 2012-05-30 14:38:01 UTC
Very interesting initiative.
c4 t
Cosmic Psychedelics
#25 - 2012-05-30 14:41:59 UTC
This would be super cool. The only thing I have to add other than my support would be to suggest CCP have a window of 8-9 weeks. I believe that is the cooldown required between donations. Some of us may be on cooldown!
MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
#26 - 2012-05-30 14:46:23 UTC
Trollin wrote:
i dont think a ship is in order, and there are lots of people who cant participate, plus it would be an onerous task to "vet" a bunch of "evidence", this game is full of scammers and psychos. I cant imagine people will play fair when it comes to a collectable ship

maybe a decal that can be applied to ships, but def not a ship.


You can't donate blood if...
(Long list snipped. --MDD)

Yes, some people may try to defraud the system. There's not a whole lot that can be done for those folks. I think I'll have to depend partly on people's better nature.

Yes, vetting the evidence will take some effort, although I'm not proposing that the vetting be overly exhaustive.

The list of deferrals varies from country to country. Some are permanent, and some are temporary. Yes, some Eve players may never be able to donate blood. I could get snarky and superior, but I just don't have it in me. Eve is not fair. Life is not fair. But while we are fighting imagined monsters, real people are fighting real monsters. If I can encourage others to help in that real fight by dangling imaginary baubles in front of them, I will dangle them without hesitation.

MDD
Gunnlaugur
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2012-05-30 15:13:15 UTC
If you want the items but cant give blood for many reasons, can you get a Rl friend to bleed for your fun?
Nikk Narrel
Moonlit Bonsai
#28 - 2012-05-30 15:15:20 UTC
Gunnlaugur wrote:
If you want the items but cant give blood for many reasons, can you get a Rl friend to bleed for your fun?

Why not?

You inspired the donation, it may as well have been from you.
MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
#29 - 2012-05-30 15:17:03 UTC  |  Edited by: MailDeadDrop
Nikk Narrel wrote:
Gunnlaugur wrote:
If you want the items but cant give blood for many reasons, can you get a Rl friend to bleed for your fun?

Why not?

You inspired the donation, it may as well have been from you.


Agreed, with the caveat that it has to be a friend who isn't already planning to donate. You have to convince them to become a new donor (or resume as a long lapsed one). The objective is to increase the number of donors.

MDD
Velicitia
XS Tech
#30 - 2012-05-30 15:47:01 UTC
so, if CCP were to do this ...

more Blood Raider ships?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
#31 - 2012-05-30 15:57:37 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
so, if CCP were to do this ...

more Blood Raider ships?

Well, if CCP goes for the whole idea then yes, there'd be some new Blood Raider ship. I would imagine it would be something along the lines of the Interbus shuttle or the Quafe Iteron IV: useful, unique, but not balance-upsetting.

MDD
Thorvik
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2012-05-30 16:30:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Thorvik
As Trollin quite rightly stated, there are many reasons someone cannot give blood. One that is missing on the list above is if you have handled any blood from a monkey (on the Canadian Blood Services forms). You can do one of two things in that event:

1) Gilbaron is correct that you can check the box not to use your blood if you want to give and are not able for whatever reason
or the better alternative

2) Have a friend donate in your stead.

The easiest way to verify is a photo from your donation. Have the nurse/technician take a picture with a camera phone. You can probably make a general assumption that if the person plays EVE, they have a cell phone with a camera in it and know how to upload from camera to an e-mail.

There are a lot of things that can go wrong but conversation and collaboration is the name of the game and we can flush it out as we develop the idea.

Scammers will be scammers so the in-game item should be one where there will be an overly large degree of profit or benefit.

I, personally, like the Blood raider ship idea. Maybe a Frigate of no special attribute other than it doesn't get attacked by the Blood Raider faction? I also like the NOS implant but that may give an advantage so that scammers will try harder to scam the contest.

Bottom line really is that there are so many good things that can come of this. If a scammer scams some pixels from someone else, so what. So many multiples of *Real Lives* will be saved and helped by it that it doesn't matter if the scammer gets a shiny pixelated ship
Jett0
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2012-05-30 18:43:28 UTC
+1

"Thank you for donating. Please accept this t-shirt."
"B**CH I DON'T WANT NO T-SHIRT I WANNA SPACESHIP."

Occasionally plays sober

Velicitia
XS Tech
#34 - 2012-05-30 18:53:14 UTC
Thorvik wrote:
As Trollin quite rightly stated, there are many reasons someone cannot give blood. One that is missing on the list above is if you have handled any blood from a monkey (on the Canadian Blood Services forms). You can do one of two things in that event:

1) Gilbaron is correct that you can check the box not to use your blood if you want to give and are not able for whatever reason
or the better alternative

2) Have a friend donate in your stead.


there has to be a "3) do something a capsuleer would do" in there somewhere ...

you know, it wouldn't be so hard to get this to work.

CCP -- "Hey Red Cross, we have this really cool idea to get people to give blood, but we need a little help ... (more stuff, something about blood raiders)"

RC -- "Uhhh...? 'Blood Raiders' ?? I don't even ... "

CCP -- "Don't worry about that. If anyone comes up and knows who the Blood Raiders are, just give them a card"

(time)
RC Sign-in volunteer -- "One last question, you know that logo?"
Eve Player -- "WHO LET THE BLOOD RAIDERS IN HERE?! EVERYONE RUN!"
RC -- "that's the fifth person this hour... WTF? ... oh well, take this card"

(time)
Player --> OK so take this code and redeem... \o/ Blood Raider Shuttle!

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Trollin
Perkone
Caldari State
#35 - 2012-05-30 18:53:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Trollin
a blood raider shuttle perhaps

ofc a mottled red amarr shuttle, nothing fancy

and im still against "evidence" and vetting just do honor system and save all that man hours for something useful

ofc it is acceptable to accept photos if people wish to upload "evidence" and use for publicity, but should be left to individual discretion.

i dont want my face in your archives.

We are our own worst enemy.

Frank Martin Statham
Periculum Kismet
#36 - 2012-05-30 21:20:52 UTC
I think this is a great idea!!

I work across from a Red Cross office and give blood every three months but would love to see more people do so.

If it was not for blood donors I would have lost my wife who literally died on the operating table twice when she had gone septic from severe Crohns. I am thankful everyday for those who donated and allowed me to continue to share my wonderful life with my wife.

Slider VII
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#37 - 2012-05-30 21:32:33 UTC
Being a recipient from blood transfusions from a really nasty motorcycle accident, I can tell you that I wouldn't be here today unless for those that did give blood.

I would support this in my area without any hesitation.

Cheers!

Slider VII Recruitment Director - Grey Templars Recruitment Officer - Fidelas Constans [FCON]

Dezolf
DAX Action Stance
#38 - 2012-05-30 22:08:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Dezolf
Velicitia wrote:
there has to be a "3) do something a capsuleer would do" in there somewhere ...

you know, it wouldn't be so hard to get this to work.

CCP -- "Hey Red Cross, we have this really cool idea to get people to give blood, but we need a little help ... (more stuff, something about blood raiders)"

RC -- "Uhhh...? 'Blood Raiders' ?? I don't even ... "

CCP -- "Don't worry about that. If anyone comes up and knows who the Blood Raiders are, just give them a card"

(time)
RC Sign-in volunteer -- "One last question, you know that logo?"
Eve Player -- "WHO LET THE BLOOD RAIDERS IN HERE?! EVERYONE RUN!"
RC -- "that's the fifth person this hour... WTF? ... oh well, take this card"

(time)
Player --> OK so take this code and redeem... \o/ Blood Raider Shuttle!


The only problem with that would be that CCP (and/or Red Cross) would need to distribute those cards etc. Also, not every country donates at(?) a RC office.

I should also note that at my local bloodbank one first has to go through vetting of ones blood. Only after three months will one be able to give the first pint of blood (or however much it is). This should also be considered if CCP goes ahead with this.

I am still all about this campaign. There are a few initial hurdles, but with catch phrases and headlines such as those posted in this thread... It can't fail!

Edit:
Oh, also, my university's department of CS's friday-bar (...) has a similar concept; Beer for blood. Donate blood, get a pint. It inspired quite a few CS students (as far as I know, anyway).
Now, okay, they are students and, as such, poor - and they didn't need that blood anyway (but they did, of course, need the beer). But if that's enough incentive to bring about some students, why shouldn't some "bling" be incentive enough to bring about a few EVE-gee... Players.
Jackal Datapaw
Doomheim
#39 - 2012-05-30 22:15:39 UTC
I can't give blood, I had a tumor and take medication Cry
MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
#40 - 2012-05-31 01:53:39 UTC
Jackal Datapaw wrote:
I can't give blood, I had a tumor and take medication Cry

Well, I have a mixed reaction. On the one hand, I'm sorry you had to go through the shock of discovering the tumor and the medical procedure(s) to deal with it. On the other hand, I'm glad you were able to get (presumably life-saving) medical treatment for it and are here today enriching Eve.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, if you are personally unable to donate, a proxy donation (e.g. get a friend to donate on your behalf) is acceptable.

MDD
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