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Solo Ganking a Hulk
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Alderon Mizuchi
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2012-05-30 18:36:51 UTC
Was just wondering if this was possible in a Hurricane?
Almost all of my combat skills are in Minmatar ships and fittings at the moment, so if I can solo kill these things in a Hurricane, that would be awesome. Or would it be better to just cross train into a Brutix? Last I had heard, the aim is ~750DPS?
Eternal Error
Doomheim
#2 - 2012-05-30 18:50:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Eternal Error
A minimally tanked or untanked hulk should be EASILY killable by a catalyst (maybe a thrasher, I'm not sure as I haven't flown them) in .5, .6, and .7. A properly tanked one will not die to a destroyer... maybe not to a tier 1/2 BC either if he has decent skills and/or overheats his hardeners. When in doubt and going after tanked targets, you want a tornado or talos.

My advice is to ship scan and stick to relatively untanked targets (or get a friend or two) and just use destroyers.

EDIT: Note I'm referring to t1 fits when talking about destroyers and tier 1/2 BCs. A t2 fit and suicide rigged hurricane or brutix should be able to kill a tanked hulk.
Alderon Mizuchi
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-05-30 18:53:09 UTC
I gotcha.
The information I had read on was pretty out of date, and I completely forgot that Destroyers got a decent buff between then and now. I'll give it a shot and see how it goes.
Angry Onions
League of Angered Gentlemen
#4 - 2012-05-30 19:42:45 UTC
A ruppy with ac's and HAM's with dmg mods for both and overheated should puts out 700 dps for me

S H I T P O S T I N G
Vincent R'lyeh
Screaming Hayabusa
#5 - 2012-05-30 20:43:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Vincent R'lyeh
Quote:
[Catalyst, Hulk Go Boom]

Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I
Alumel-Wired Sensor Augmentation, Scan Resolution Script

Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S
Light Neutron Blaster II, Void S

Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
[Empty Rig slot]


Hobgoblin II x1


Zainou 'Gypsy' Electronics EE-603


666dps with O'H & drone out (I kid you not :)

Needs the 3% cpu implant but this is the ship that killed Oddball Six

I have deliberately developed an air of cynicism that I originally intended to make me appear somewhat louche and caddish but actually comes across as irritable hostility combined with the unspoken threat of sudden violence.....
Alderon Mizuchi
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-05-30 20:56:34 UTC
Very nice, the Oddball Six thread was the one that inspired me to go into all this. I'll give that fitting a shot and see how it goes.
Staten Island
Diversity 101
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#7 - 2012-06-01 16:09:21 UTC
Eternal Error wrote:
A minimally tanked or untanked hulk should be EASILY killable by a catalyst (maybe a thrasher, I'm not sure as I haven't flown them) in .5, .6, and .7. A properly tanked one will not die to a destroyer... maybe not to a tier 1/2 BC either if he has decent skills and/or overheats his hardeners. When in doubt and going after tanked targets, you want a tornado or talos.

My advice is to ship scan and stick to relatively untanked targets (or get a friend or two) and just use destroyers.

EDIT: Note I'm referring to t1 fits when talking about destroyers and tier 1/2 BCs. A t2 fit and suicide rigged hurricane or brutix should be able to kill a tanked hulk.


Decent tank ftw
Lolkill
Giblet Gravy
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2012-06-02 23:38:31 UTC
Eternal Error wrote:
A minimally tanked or untanked hulk should be EASILY killable by a catalyst (maybe a thrasher, I'm not sure as I haven't flown them) in .5, .6, and .7. A properly tanked one will not die to a destroyer... maybe not to a tier 1/2 BC either if he has decent skills and/or overheats his hardeners. When in doubt and going after tanked targets, you want a tornado or talos.

My advice is to ship scan and stick to relatively untanked targets (or get a friend or two) and just use destroyers.

EDIT: Note I'm referring to t1 fits when talking about destroyers and tier 1/2 BCs. A t2 fit and suicide rigged hurricane or brutix should be able to kill a tanked hulk.


Hey guys i have a question relateing to the op's thread, a friend of mine says he can do 15k alpha in a dessie, this sounds really high to me, whats the highest alpha you can get in a dessie?
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#9 - 2012-06-03 01:17:30 UTC
Giblet Gravy wrote:


Hey guys i have a question relateing to the op's thread, a friend of mine says he can do 15k alpha in a dessie, this sounds really high to me, whats the highest alpha you can get in a dessie?

Not even a Gank Tornado can do that. 1500 could be possible. I know a gank thrasher does 1300 without imps.

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Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2012-06-03 03:13:55 UTC
Giblet Gravy wrote:
Eternal Error wrote:
A minimally tanked or untanked hulk should be EASILY killable by a catalyst (maybe a thrasher, I'm not sure as I haven't flown them) in .5, .6, and .7. A properly tanked one will not die to a destroyer... maybe not to a tier 1/2 BC either if he has decent skills and/or overheats his hardeners. When in doubt and going after tanked targets, you want a tornado or talos.

My advice is to ship scan and stick to relatively untanked targets (or get a friend or two) and just use destroyers.

EDIT: Note I'm referring to t1 fits when talking about destroyers and tier 1/2 BCs. A t2 fit and suicide rigged hurricane or brutix should be able to kill a tanked hulk.


Hey guys i have a question relateing to the op's thread, a friend of mine says he can do 15k alpha in a dessie, this sounds really high to me, whats the highest alpha you can get in a dessie?


Not possible.

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Shereza
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2012-06-03 04:44:34 UTC
l0rd carlos wrote:
Giblet Gravy wrote:


Hey guys i have a question relateing to the op's thread, a friend of mine says he can do 15k alpha in a dessie, this sounds really high to me, whats the highest alpha you can get in a dessie?

Not even a Gank Tornado can do that. 1500 could be possible. I know a gank thrasher does 1300 without imps.



[Thrasher, Alpha]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
[empty high slot]

Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]

Presuming Domination ammo can be found that's 1935 alpha without (damage, 1% grid needed) implants. If you can't get it it's 1881 alpha. If you're going for alpha striking on a destroyer 1500 is more than "could be" possible with a thrasher. A cormorant, on the other hand, would be lucky to hit 1k even if you include the first rocket hit.
Private Pineapple
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2012-06-03 05:03:10 UTC
Shereza wrote:
l0rd carlos wrote:
Giblet Gravy wrote:


Hey guys i have a question relateing to the op's thread, a friend of mine says he can do 15k alpha in a dessie, this sounds really high to me, whats the highest alpha you can get in a dessie?

Not even a Gank Tornado can do that. 1500 could be possible. I know a gank thrasher does 1300 without imps.



[Thrasher, Alpha]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
280mm Howitzer Artillery II, Domination EMP S
[empty high slot]

Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
[empty rig slot]
[empty rig slot]

Presuming Domination ammo can be found that's 1935 alpha without (damage, 1% grid needed) implants. If you can't get it it's 1881 alpha. If you're going for alpha striking on a destroyer 1500 is more than "could be" possible with a thrasher. A cormorant, on the other hand, would be lucky to hit 1k even if you include the first rocket hit.


Interesting.

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