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CCP needs to take a hard look at Goonswarm and Hulkageddon to save EVE.
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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#21 - 2012-05-30 19:00:03 UTC
Drax Dremal wrote:
Goonswarm is bot moon mining, bot ice mining and bot ore mining. They have enouph protection to be emune from Hulkageddon so they decided to get rid of the high sec competition. CCP you need to take a hard stance against Goonswarm to save EVE and your jobs. I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with **** you need to throw it out and get new sand.


How does one bot moon mine? You put up a tower, you defend it with real people, real people pull the minerals from it and sell it on the market.
For the other two, if you have any evidence of it I suggest you submit it to CCP with all the details you can gather. Names, places, times, behaviors, everything.

Drax Dremal wrote:
Goonswarm what are you going to to do when only pirates are playing and the player base is so low EVE dies a slow death like Star Wars. The only reason you are so big is because of high sec and the carebears. Carebears give you and other pirates something to fight against. When carebears are gone who are you going to fight then? I think your going to be playing with yourself!!


Carebears will never leave eve, and it isn't our goal, despite what you may have heard, to drive them away.

Drax Dremal wrote:
Goonswarm do you think EVE cant die? I played in Starwars from its start until it died. At its high point it was way more popular than EVE will ever be. We thought it could never die. Another game designer is going see that EVE is weak and create another similar game. When it does carebears and your pirate members are going to leave EVE in droves. When it does CCP and Goonswarm are going to be crying!


The only way that eve will die is if the concept of player-driven gameplay dies. Basically if the average high-sec forum warrior gets their way.

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Liam Mirren
#22 - 2012-05-30 19:00:44 UTC
Goon alt OP spotted.

Excellence is not a skill, it's an attitude.
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2012-05-30 19:02:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Kiteo Hatto
Quote:
I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with **** you need to throw it out and get new sand.


Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game.

You can only build your sandcastles by being a bigger bully it seems.


Joined this game when the community was mature and helpful, its a different game apart from core story now.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#24 - 2012-05-30 19:02:54 UTC
Bot moon mining? That's a new one. You do realize that moon mining is more like pi. Tell the harvester to pull, empty the silos, set the reaction chains up. It isn't something you bot simply because the effort is in defending and setting up the moon mining, not the mining itself.

And what proof do you have of any of your claims? Have you seen a mass exodus from eve since yestetday? Eve is a game of patience. Have a little. See what happens in a week, month or more. Yeah if subs drop and mineral prices skyrocket, worry.

But for now, panicing after a day? You are either just feeding goons the attention they crave or creating your own look at me post.

Stop worrying, play, enjoy the dynamics of the game, and just be patient.
Joe Richter
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2012-05-30 19:03:22 UTC
Beep Boop I am literally a technetium shitting bot.
Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#26 - 2012-05-30 19:04:47 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Quote:
I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with **** you need to throw it out and get new sand.


Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game.


No, everyone is allowed to play, but everyone plays in the same sandbox, and the strong dictate how things work, because they are able to enforce it. If a big enough group of peaceniks were to take power, they could try to enforce a ban on ganking.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#27 - 2012-05-30 19:04:53 UTC
Lady Ayeipsia wrote:
But for now, panicing after a day? You are either just feeding goons the attention they crave or creating your own look at me post.

Stop worrying, play, enjoy the dynamics of the game, and just be patient.

Gotta love the forums. Overreacting is the new proportional response.

Joe Richter wrote:
Beep Boop I am literally a technetium shitting bot.

What. What?

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Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#28 - 2012-05-30 19:08:17 UTC
OP. QUIT.

This could be fun.
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#29 - 2012-05-30 19:09:32 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Quote:
I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with **** you need to throw it out and get new sand.


Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game.


Sandbox means allowed to play however you like within the confines of the system. Asking to change rules because the system doesn't match your play style isn't how a sandbox works. That's like asking teachers to change the rules of gravity because it hibders your castle building.

Deal with the rules of the sandbox, don't expect or demand they change to cater to your play style.
Aramatheia
Tiffany and Co.
#30 - 2012-05-30 19:12:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Aramatheia
Degren wrote:
Drax Dremal wrote:
They have enouph protection to be emune from Hulkageddon


Drax Dremal wrote:
enouph protection to be emune


Drax Dremal wrote:
enouph


Drax Dremal wrote:
emune


Straight


am i nasty for actually chuckling at that?

reminds me of when i once played runescape (dont kill me i have repented!) and people who beg me for munni.. what the hell is munni? learn to spell dang it
Kiteo Hatto
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-05-30 19:14:56 UTC
Alia Gon'die wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Quote:
I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with **** you need to throw it out and get new sand.


Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game.


No, everyone is allowed to play, but everyone plays in the same sandbox, and the strong dictate how things work, because they are able to enforce it. If a big enough group of peaceniks were to take power, they could try to enforce a ban on ganking.


Thank you for proving my "adapt" point. It's not a sandbox if WE can't play as WE like. Hell, i don't even mine but i feel sorry for those who do. CCP needs to edit their sign up page "By clicking REGISTER NOW you agree that you are a real **** to those who don't share the same interest or have fun in the same way that you do"


So...uh, where is the sandbox ?
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#32 - 2012-05-30 19:15:45 UTC
Drax Dremal wrote:
My point is everyone will be crying when carebears are driven from the game. Im not a carebear but even I realize they are needed to balance the game.


There are carebears then there are those who don't have the spine to get off their backsides and do anything when someome comes around trying to kick their sandcastle down. You do not speak for all carebears as this character is one essentially, but he can chew you a new one the size of Scotland if you try anything.

The real industrialists, the ones with teeth and balls won't bail like the whiners threaten too, they'll take advantage of the situation and carry on, and have fun doing it, so take your self proclaimed generalisations and peddle them elsewhere, because those of use who can take the game for what it is aren't buying.

You leave with nothing, I say good day sir!

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Malice Redeemer
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#33 - 2012-05-30 19:16:10 UTC
Drax Dremal wrote:
Seishi Maru wrote:
Drax Dremal wrote:
Goonswarm is bot moon mining, bot ice mining and bot ore mining. They have enouph protection to be emune from Hulkageddon so they decided to get rid of the high sec competition. CCP you need to take a hard stance against Goonswarm to save EVE and your jobs. I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with **** you need to throw it out and get new sand.

Goonswarm what are you going to to do when only pirates are playing and the player base is so low EVE dies a slow death like Star Wars. The only reason you are so big is because of high sec and the carebears. Carebears give you and other pirates something to fight against. When carebears are gone who are you going to fight then? I think your going to be playing with yourself!!


Goonswarm do you think EVE cant die? I played in Starwars from its start until it died. At its high point it was way more popular than EVE will ever be. We thought it could never die. Another game designer is going see that EVE is weak and create another similar game. When it does carebears and your pirate members are going to leave EVE in droves. When it does CCP and Goonswarm are going to be crying!



but for now.. youa re the onecrying.. so that means you are loosing.


My point is everyone will be crying when carebears are driven from the game. Im not a carebear but even I realize they are needed to balance the game.


are they? really? are you sure?
Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#34 - 2012-05-30 19:16:56 UTC
So you admit to being competition for bot mining?

I don't think you're as smart as you think we think you think you are.
Cpt Roghie
Chemical Invasion Co.
#35 - 2012-05-30 19:17:58 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Quote:
I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with **** you need to throw it out and get new sand.


Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game.


No, everyone is allowed to play, but everyone plays in the same sandbox, and the strong dictate how things work, because they are able to enforce it. If a big enough group of peaceniks were to take power, they could try to enforce a ban on ganking.


Thank you for proving my "adapt" point. It's not a sandbox if WE can't play as WE like. Hell, i don't even mine but i feel sorry for those who do. CCP needs to edit their sign up page "By clicking REGISTER NOW you agree that you are a real **** to those who don't share the same interest or have fun in the same way that you do"


So...uh, where is the sandbox ?


It's got damn a sandbox even though I'm forcing you to not play the way you want. That's the point! Goonswarm has the founding to **** your sand castle over a million times. Deal with it already.

This could be fun.
Karak Terrel
Foundation for CODE and THE NEW ORDER
#36 - 2012-05-30 19:18:11 UTC
Drax Dremal wrote:
Goonswarm is bot moon mining

I think that's what convinced me you know what you are talking about.

Didn't read the rest, but i'm sure it's much more rational than all the other countless whining threads about the goons.

good job
Joe Richter
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2012-05-30 19:19:08 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:

What. What?



Beep boop please input technetium quantity required. Use /P to specify a specific POS to be harvested for Technetium
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2012-05-30 19:19:22 UTC
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Quote:
I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with **** you need to throw it out and get new sand.


Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game.


No, everyone is allowed to play, but everyone plays in the same sandbox, and the strong dictate how things work, because they are able to enforce it. If a big enough group of peaceniks were to take power, they could try to enforce a ban on ganking.


Thank you for proving my "adapt" point. It's not a sandbox if WE can't play as WE like. Hell, i don't even mine but i feel sorry for those who do. CCP needs to edit their sign up page "By clicking REGISTER NOW you agree that you are a real **** to those who don't share the same interest or have fun in the same way that you do"


So...uh, where is the sandbox ?


You can play like you like, you simply have to accept the conciquences of your actions.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2012-05-30 19:21:57 UTC
Drax Dremal wrote:
Goonswarm is bot moon mining, bot ice mining and bot ore mining. They have enouph protection to be emune


Stopped reading there. Judging from what I actually read the OP is going to get dumber and dumber.

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Alia Gon'die
Outer Ring Applied Logistics
#40 - 2012-05-30 19:26:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Alia Gon'die
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Alia Gon'die wrote:
Kiteo Hatto wrote:
Quote:
I know this is a sandbox, but if the the sandbox fills up with **** you need to throw it out and get new sand.


Its a sandbox where only bullies are allowed to play, everyone else gets told to "adapt" to their way. The irony of it being "the sandbox" game.


No, everyone is allowed to play, but everyone plays in the same sandbox, and the strong dictate how things work, because they are able to enforce it. If a big enough group of peaceniks were to take power, they could try to enforce a ban on ganking.


Thank you for proving my "adapt" point. It's not a sandbox if WE can't play as WE like. Hell, i don't even mine but i feel sorry for those who do. CCP needs to edit their sign up page "By clicking REGISTER NOW you agree that you are a real **** to those who don't share the same interest or have fun in the same way that you do"


So...uh, where is the sandbox ?


The sandbox is right there, you just have to be able to defend yourself from the big mean bully who is also allowed to be a mean bully.

If you don't have the skills to defend yourself, too bad, the bully is allowed to do whatever he wants too.

The only right that you have in eve is to pay a subscription and to undock in a ship you have the skills to fly.

Self-appointed forums hallway monitor Ask me about La Maison and what it means for you! http://bit.ly/LTW5gW These wardec rules are not in place for our protection. They're in place for yours.