Warfare & Tactics

Well, there is precious little left to farm system wise for minmatar side without running into actual enemy held home system and getting shot in the face and most likely the flood of LP coming to them devaluates it eventually to an about equal level with Nigerian currency in regards "farmers".

Of course for non-farmers it's not an issue since they just use that LP to blot out the sun with firetails and stabber fleet issues.

Considerign as theOP almost never ever leaves auga, and on the 2 weeks prior to the patch when minmatar militia was working.. said OP was continuing to do nothign but camp auga station. I see no reason to bail them from their own incompetence.

Basically amarr militia never even tried to do anything as an organized group.


They do not even take advantage from the fact that they can plex hidden quite easily in the crapton os sytems minmatar have now. No they simply keep bashing their head on same tactics.

I remember so well on these last 3 years how many times said OP boasted in locla how their side was the elite and more organized and etc. Now.. who is laughing?

Instead of crying about some figment of your imagination about how FW is now, why don't YOU go out and change YOUR situation. Nobody cares about the amarr because they don't help themselves, and shoot at friendlies. It's your hole. You dug it, now lay in it and HTFU.

confirming Amarr made ccp change fw like they did.

i wonder what we should mess with next.... hhhmmmmm lets change minmatar ships all to have 8 high 8 med and 8 low, yes thats next in our cunning plan to crush ourselves further so i can come back and whine about how unfair it is and we deserved it.

get a damned clue you stupid prat.

No it hasnt, and also it never changed the lp costs nor locked you out of system.

FW has always been, up till now, about pvp and nothing more.

I have been i fw for many years i dont even know who you are, look me up i have along history in fw.

NOW its all about plex systems and lp, only with the side effect that you now cant dock, which if the other side has all the systems occupied, is a huge issue for those restricted to low sec due to security standings.

PRIOR PROPER PLANNING PREVENTS **** POOR PERFORMANCE - they drill that **** into the RL military mind.


IM not FW but it seems this persons problem is a lack of FW participants on the Amarr side. Am i correct?

Faction war today is a VASTLY better system than it was a month ago.

I'm sorry you don't like it. That is a personal problem. On the whole? Huge improvement. Why don't you try adapting? You have a horde of new players at your disposal in the form of Fweddit who could probably be a force to be reckoned with if they had some guidance from more experienced FW pilots.

its not a case of liking it (which for the record i dont) its about the war drying up with people who actually have the resources to do so consistently.

sure im one guy and my corp one corp, but if you cant see the insane uphill struggle ahead to be able to survive you are simply aiding the destruction of what was a decent consistent fight.

without a decent 200 man plus corp joining to aid amarr with a few billion to spending doing so, amarrs numbers will fall, attitudes and morale falling leaving the "winners' with no one to fight - this CANT be the way ccp wanted it to go because its basicly a 2-3 month extinction of fw.

Hey, if you hate me and my whines just dont post and wait a few months and then come back and see where we all are.

How are we going to be incursion style rich when our lp is worth 4xs less than even high sec npc corp lp? The tags aren't going to be worth as much either because the poor return on lp means people won't even need to tags. Its the winning sides tags that will be in high demand.

So you spend 20 minutes running too minors and get 20k lp that is worth about 500isk/lp. Thats a whopping 10 million for 20 minutes of pve. Multiply that by 3 and you are making 30 million per hour - after you take the time to get the items you need for the lp store and sell them. This assumes no one kills you forcing your to go god knows how many jumps to get a new ship.

How do you figure this is even coming close to incursions?

"Adapt" = do not fight for the losing side.

Not to dismiss anything that has been said, but holy crap.

A frigate soloing your plex? How about chasing him off or killing him? I mean they have beacons show up on the overview for a reason. You can see what's there.

Is FW about plexing? No. Is plexing a part, yes.

Is FW supposed to be solo? No. Are you finding yourself outnumbered in a system? Try another one until you get favorable odds.

Are you worried about ship costs and sustaining your wallet? Fly cheap, fly in small groups, and choose your fights.* Protip* You can make money looting wrecks of ships that you blow up and get LP for blowing them up! Hell, you can pay for half the crap I fly by killing two or three belt rats (you will also improve your sec status \o/).

Is the system now perfect? Hell no, but it is better than before in terms of fighting over something and forcing conflict.

I understand that everything above may suck if you have zero access to high sec trade hubs, but sec status is fixable. It sucks ass being on the losing side, but it isn't completely debilitating. Fighting smarter is not necessarily harder.

Doing this will help make things tolerable while the system is tweaked. If it isn't tweaked soon enough or to your satisfaction, that is your call. These are just opinions of an extremely casual player without much free time FWIW.