EVE General Discussion

If you are talking about SWG then you should go read up on facts before you post again.
Sony had to change the game because Locus Arts who owns Star Wars rights wanted to bring in WoW like numbers and forced Sony to make the changes and the game died. Those are the facts but idiots like you just listened to what the masses said and took it for fact like normal instead of doing a little amount of research on your own.

Its not like we live in the information age or anything. Oh wait. lazy uninformed idiots like you are ruining this world with your nonsense.

I love this stuff.

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Who believe's that this game does allow you to "opt out" by living in hisec" Got a quote from somone ?
Who believe's that CONCORD exists to protect them from all harm ? Got a quote from somone ?
Who believe's that suicide ganking is an exploit. Got a quote from somone ?
Who believe's that that nonconsensual PvP does not have a place in hisec. Got a quote from somone ?

Just curious who this person is cause man they really do a good job of irritating the crap out of you all

Indeed I don't deny what was written but my point is that there are always people who think that some things should be a certain way, and they will use the forums to try to get that way, but there is nothing new about that. Yes, there are high sec carebears who want PVP to be consensual but there are also bored lowsec gate campers who come to the forums demanding changes that would enhance the way they want to play.

And the best part is, the majority of the player base do not use the forums. I played WoW from 2005 to 2007 and never touched the forums. The forums are not the world, but people who use them tend to think, after much time and investment, that it is.

Would there be a special concern because CCP is known to pay some attention to the forums? Possibly. But they can get just as much the right idea as the wrong idea if they paid too much attention to the forums. Sometimes I think that people have the right idea, but push it the wrong way. Goons, I notice, tend to put up talk about griefing when in fact the end result is valid to the goals of the game. This is the opposite of greifing and then hiding behind the usual canon of excuses. I can see what destruction of high sec mining operations will result in and as far as the game goes, it's legitimate goals veiled by wanting to grief people.

While it works, and I suspect that CCP does not take it the wrong way, being backstage, it will raise the ire of forum warriors. When the Skunk guys were moving to shut down incursions, something I supported and joined in on, there was a lot of "grief the bears" talk, which I did not agree with not because I cared for twink-ship incursion grinders whose sense of entitlement only made me really want to whizz in their Cheerios, but because to an observer, it was covering the original point of interrupting incursions and why. What ends up happening is that those with the sense of entitlement go off getting to feel like victims and further vindicate their ignorance, and they never really learn the lesson.

I think it's only a small minority of people who outright want to say that highsec should be totally safe. and just as many who say get rid of concord or move all L4s to lowsec. Overall the debate never remains civil enough to be productive. But no matter what happens, nobody is going to actually learn anything, or change their ways.

In the end it's fear of weaponized democracy. I think there is a consensus that if 1000 people say "make highsec safe" and only 999 say "Do not", then CCP will trot to the source code and make highsec totally safe. I don't think it's that simple, and thankfully CCP has enough level headedness not to put too much stock into what we, the basement dwelling neckbeards, have to say. Complaints on a forum do not make up for real metrics. Are noobs getting flustered and quitting? Maybe so, but I see that the goons already work on that by giving them guidance and ships. Your organization is already the change that you want to push and anybody who sees that, even if they hate goons (which is a rule that we must all hate goons) get forced to admit that the treatment of noobs by goons is probably better than most corporations.

Still why the drama?

I'm a doctor and I have to say that your burns are the worst.

Retired, actually, in his mid 20s? Maybe 30s.

Or are you talking about him mocking the faux suicidal botter that tried to emotionally blackmail him, the so called "The Wis"? Because I, and a lot of others, personally consider that to be one of his finest moments. Mittani doesn't, but hey, he can't help but be the wind beneath our wings.

It's a good read. Much better read than the whine threads here.

This is what I was thinking, the goons are pulling one out of the carebear playbook, and oh its so funny how butthurt the mittens sounds in that article, sounds like if eve isn't the game for him, he should quit ;P

Now that's impressive!

You guys were actually able to faceroll your keyboards and still form words, and sentence structure.

You guys should go on tour.

As correct as you are, all of your words are completely lost on the vast magority of the people here.

I commend you, and pity you at you at the same time.

I do not understand your post, I think you trying to pick on me, but its such an inept attempt I'm not 100% sure.

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