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CCP should refund Hulk training points

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Natsett Amuinn
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#101 - 2012-05-30 18:26:29 UTC
Twulf wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Twulf wrote:
EvE is anything but a Sandbox, it has some Sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox, not even close.
Oh really? What keeps it from being a sandbox?


The fact that you cannot do what you want to do when you want to do it.

Example, My corp had been war dec for the last couple of weeks and I wanted to move some stuff around and do some missions but since High Sec is not safe during a War, I spend the last 2 weeks in Null running Anom's. Not what I wanted to be doing but what I was forced to due based on how EVE works.

A Sandbox allows players to play the game how they want, when they want. Just because its an MMO game, does not change what a Sandbox is. EvE has sandbox elements but it is not a true Sandbox.

Also so of you VETs point out that players that play in High sec only are "Not playing EVE correctly" which is another sign that EVE is not a Sandbox as in a Sandbox, there is no wrong way to play.

Last point, in a Sandbox, I could equip and fly any ship anyway I pleased, you cannot do that in EVE due to the game design, not a true Sandbox.


You fail.

One demensional thinking is only one demensional thinking, and does not reality make.

Developer imposed restrictiions that prevent people from doing what they want results in the removal of sandbox play. Player imposed restrictions upon other players IS an element of sandbox play.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#102 - 2012-05-30 18:35:16 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Lyron-Baktos wrote:
sandbox

I can see why the sandbox is failing,, all the water ruining the sand and sandcastles.

You mean... tears?

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Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#103 - 2012-05-30 18:35:28 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far.
Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely different…


It wasn't a demand in any form. It was a suggestion. Not a too far fetched one either in my opinion. The grounds for the suggestion come from the goons itself. Over and over it has been suggested by them and their fans that people mine in Rokhs, this being the case and the actions of the goons supported by CCP I felt it not too unreasonable to suggest that the people with alot of training time spent to get a hulk get the points back to get their rokhs rather than pay for even more training while the previous time is now wasted. I fail to see really how this is a demand, is silly or trolling at all. Perhaps if I posted in danish I could have better expressed myself, not sure, I think it was rather to the point.


You still haven't shut up.

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#104 - 2012-05-30 18:38:12 UTC
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far.
Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely different…


It wasn't a demand in any form. It was a suggestion. Not a too far fetched one either in my opinion. The grounds for the suggestion come from the goons itself. Over and over it has been suggested by them and their fans that people mine in Rokhs, this being the case and the actions of the goons supported by CCP I felt it not too unreasonable to suggest that the people with alot of training time spent to get a hulk get the points back to get their rokhs rather than pay for even more training while the previous time is now wasted. I fail to see really how this is a demand, is silly or trolling at all. Perhaps if I posted in danish I could have better expressed myself, not sure, I think it was rather to the point.


You still haven't shut up.


And you won't see it shut up. It's just the latest Apostle sockpuppet. It switches names every few weeks after enough people get tired of listening to it blather on and on about how evil Goons are to avoid people's ignore lists.
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#105 - 2012-05-30 18:43:27 UTC
Xython wrote:
Cutter Isaacson wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Tippia wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far.
Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely different…


It wasn't a demand in any form. It was a suggestion. Not a too far fetched one either in my opinion. The grounds for the suggestion come from the goons itself. Over and over it has been suggested by them and their fans that people mine in Rokhs, this being the case and the actions of the goons supported by CCP I felt it not too unreasonable to suggest that the people with alot of training time spent to get a hulk get the points back to get their rokhs rather than pay for even more training while the previous time is now wasted. I fail to see really how this is a demand, is silly or trolling at all. Perhaps if I posted in danish I could have better expressed myself, not sure, I think it was rather to the point.


You still haven't shut up.


And you won't see it shut up. It's just the latest Apostle sockpuppet. It switches names every few weeks after enough people get tired of listening to it blather on and on about how evil Goons are to avoid people's ignore lists.


Wow you drones are still going on. I have never posted under any other name, if you think otherwise do please state the name. Before this latest move by the goons I had no problem with you at all. In my years of playing I mostly never used the forums as I thought it would be a cesspool like other game forums, I was not let down. But your rants are very funny, much better than the tears.
Scien Inkunen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#106 - 2012-05-30 18:53:12 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his bøsser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.


You have to understand that this is harsh environment suitable only for brave pilots with harts of steel who have deep contempt for all Themepark lovers. Your place is not here and you will be punished for that.

Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life !

Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2012-05-30 18:54:17 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Wow you drones are still going on. I have never posted under any other name, if you think otherwise do please state the name. Before this latest move by the goons I had no problem with you at all. In my years of playing I mostly never used the forums as I thought it would be a cesspool like other game forums, I was not let down. But your rants are very funny, much better than the tears.


You appear to be mad still bro, you ok? You mad?
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#108 - 2012-05-30 18:56:41 UTC
Xython wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Wow you drones are still going on. I have never posted under any other name, if you think otherwise do please state the name. Before this latest move by the goons I had no problem with you at all. In my years of playing I mostly never used the forums as I thought it would be a cesspool like other game forums, I was not let down. But your rants are very funny, much better than the tears.


You appear to be mad still bro, you ok? You mad?


reminds me of the 13 year olds on Call of Duty MW 3

You 13 bro? You 13?
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#109 - 2012-05-30 18:58:51 UTC
Tenchi Sal wrote:
Xython wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Wow you drones are still going on. I have never posted under any other name, if you think otherwise do please state the name. Before this latest move by the goons I had no problem with you at all. In my years of playing I mostly never used the forums as I thought it would be a cesspool like other game forums, I was not let down. But your rants are very funny, much better than the tears.


You appear to be mad still bro, you ok? You mad?


reminds me of the 13 year olds on Call of Duty MW 3

You 13 bro? You 13?


You mad too bro! Lots of mad in here yo! Not good for complexion, should be less mad, bros!

Edit: Although your corp name is freaking brilliant. :)
Tenchi Sal
White Knights of Equestria
#110 - 2012-05-30 18:59:54 UTC
I mad bro I mad. Not sure about what but I mad bro I mad.
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#111 - 2012-05-30 19:01:03 UTC
Not mad here, jeg har det fint Big smile
Onyx Nyx
The Veldspar Protectorate
#112 - 2012-05-30 19:01:20 UTC
Try swinging a cactus above your head, because it apparently helps.

I kill kittens, and puppies and bunnies. I maim toddlers and teens and then more.

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Josef Djugashvilis
#113 - 2012-05-30 19:02:06 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his bøsser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.


You know, I know and the rest of Eve knows this is never going to happen, nor should it.

Please stop making non-goons look stupid.

This is not a signature.

Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#114 - 2012-05-30 19:04:28 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his bøsser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.


You know, I know and the rest of Eve knows this is never going to happen, nor should it.

Please stop making non-goons look stupid.


Of course I know this would never happen. I am not totally blond. But I wanted to make a point in the debate about it, though expecting a debate and not a flame war was rather naive on my part I admit.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#115 - 2012-05-30 19:06:57 UTC
Its amazing just how far some people will go before they fit a tank to their shipsStraight
Tirestun
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#116 - 2012-05-30 19:07:47 UTC
GSF creates a mineral bubble by increasing demand for Hulk Hulls in High-sec and a decreased, cheap supply of said minerals sourced from high-sec.

They're happily mining away in their space, insulated. My best guess at their motivations.

On a more serious note, I had to read the OP twice to make sure I didn't misunderstand it. You're not seriously asking for your SPs back because you're getting killed in EVE, are you?
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#117 - 2012-05-30 19:09:25 UTC
Tirestun wrote:
GSF creates a mineral bubble by increasing demand for Hulk Hulls in High-sec and a decreased, cheap supply of said minerals sourced from high-sec.

They're happily mining away in their space, insulated. My best guess at their motivations.

On a more serious note, I had to read the OP twice to make sure I didn't misunderstand it. You're not seriously asking for your SPs back because you're getting killed in EVE, are you?


No, I dont mine nor have ever trained for a Hulk, as I stated.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#118 - 2012-05-30 19:11:01 UTC
Tirestun wrote:
GSF creates a mineral bubble by increasing demand for Hulk Hulls in High-sec and a decreased, cheap supply of said minerals sourced from high-sec.

They're happily mining away in their space, insulated. My best guess at their motivations.

On a more serious note, I had to read the OP twice to make sure I didn't misunderstand it. You're not seriously asking for your SPs back because you're getting killed in EVE, are you?


The whole "we like it when entitled assholes who are killing EVE get upset" motivation doesn't count?
Lexmana
#119 - 2012-05-30 19:11:29 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:

Of course I know this would never happen. I am not totally blond. But I wanted to make a point in the debate about it, though expecting a debate and not a flame war was rather naive on my part I admit.

Free advice: if you want a discussion post something intelligent and if you want a flame war post something stupid.
Xython
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#120 - 2012-05-30 19:12:10 UTC
Lexmana wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:

Of course I know this would never happen. I am not totally blond. But I wanted to make a point in the debate about it, though expecting a debate and not a flame war was rather naive on my part I admit.

Free advice: if you want a discussion post something intelligent and if you want a flame war post something stupid.


And if you want both: Join Goonswarm and post anything. :)