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CCP should refund Hulk training points

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Cutter Isaacson
DEDSEC SAN FRANCISCO
#61 - 2012-05-30 15:36:58 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his bøsser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.


Shut up

"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#62 - 2012-05-30 15:38:06 UTC
I agree, give them all their hulk-specific skills back. That would be...Exhumers III? Congrats, you get like half a day of training back.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#63 - 2012-05-30 15:38:11 UTC
LOL Cutter, I will get right on that.
Virgil Travis
Non Constructive Self Management
#64 - 2012-05-30 15:38:39 UTC
Ban Bindy wrote:
You can tell the integrity of an OP by the speed with which the Thought Police line up to condemn her. OP here is clearly a threat to the ColdDarkHarsh Party. She must be ridiculed at all costs, and any validity to what she says must be scorned. Line up with the Thought Police.


The thought police have decided you're below the limit. Carry on.

Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method Mamma didn't raise no victims.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#65 - 2012-05-30 15:39:07 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
highonpop wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Since CCP is releasing Mittani and his bøsser boys upon high sec miners, they should let those miners have the option to have skill points refunded so that they can go do something else or fly a battleship while mining. It seems to me that many people have months of paid training time for a ship they can not safely use anymore (Not me, I never flew one). If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.



So, CCP released the goons on the world?


please remove yourself from the living.


They sanctioned the actions so yes. Telling someone to kill themselves is pretty low as well, as I suspect your IQ to be.


We also suspect you have a 2 digit IQ.


Well aren't you surprising, you said something other than 'its a sandbox-not a theme park mmo'.


Yes i did, and it help you find out after 9 YEARS what EvE is.

The Tears Must Flow
Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#66 - 2012-05-30 15:40:03 UTC
no they shouldn't; refunding points is only reserved for ccp removing something from the game. it's an extreme measure and should almost never be used.

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Lokdu
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#67 - 2012-05-30 15:47:10 UTC
your proposal is very bad but your avatar is nice
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#68 - 2012-05-30 15:52:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Bunnie Hop
Lokdu wrote:
your proposal is very bad but your avatar is nice


Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#69 - 2012-05-30 15:58:15 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Lokdu wrote:
your proposal is very bad but your avatar is nice


Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE as gone too far.


I would also be mad if i had spent the last nine years with my head buried in the sand, "Ostrich" style.

The Tears Must Flow
Haldor Rune
State War Academy
Caldari State
#70 - 2012-05-30 15:59:58 UTC
Bunnie Hop? HAS to be a troll Roll.

Avatar's not bad, though.
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#71 - 2012-05-30 16:02:17 UTC
Haldor Rune wrote:
Bunnie Hop? HAS to be a troll Roll.

Avatar's not bad, though.


Na, just a silly name, I let my oldest daughter help me name one of my characters a few years ago and this is what she wanted. We used to play a bunnie hop game she loved. My husband rolls his eyes at it too Lol
Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#72 - 2012-05-30 16:03:25 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Lokdu wrote:
your proposal is very bad but your avatar is nice


Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE as gone too far.


I would also be mad if i had spent the last nine years with my head buried in the sand, "Ostrich" style.


Oh hello, you are still here. Hows it going Roll
Velicitia
XS Tech
#73 - 2012-05-30 16:05:43 UTC
Nirnias Stirrum wrote:
Real men post with their mains, just saying.


^This...

and to be on-topic ...

@Floppie, yeah the "hulk specific" skill is Exhumers III, which is like a day (at most) of training. It's the Mining Barge and Astrogeology 5 that kill you Bear

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#74 - 2012-05-30 16:05:54 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far.
Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely different…
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#75 - 2012-05-30 16:09:23 UTC
Velicitia wrote:
@Floppie, yeah the "hulk specific" skill is Exhumers III, which is like a day (at most) of training. It's the Mining Barge and Astrogeology 5 that kill you Bear

You can use a covetor, I hear they're safe, relatively inexpensive compared to Hulk and have a good yield despite that big discount.

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Bunnie Hop
Bunny Knights
#76 - 2012-05-30 16:10:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Bunnie Hop wrote:
Thank you. I knew the proposal would stir up the hive but I wanted a lively discussion. Not a flame war as it turned into but a discussion as I think that current events in EVE has gone too far.
Maybe you should have made some kind of reasonable and relevant point on that topic, then, rather than make a silly and unfounded demand regarding something completely different…


It wasn't a demand in any form. It was a suggestion. Not a too far fetched one either in my opinion. The grounds for the suggestion come from the goons itself. Over and over it has been suggested by them and their fans that people mine in Rokhs, this being the case and the actions of the goons supported by CCP I felt it not too unreasonable to suggest that the people with alot of training time spent to get a hulk get the points back to get their rokhs rather than pay for even more training while the previous time is now wasted. I fail to see really how this is a demand, is silly or trolling at all. Perhaps if I posted in danish I could have better expressed myself, not sure, I think it was rather to the point.
silens vesica
Corsair Cartel
#77 - 2012-05-30 16:12:49 UTC
Good Lord.
Roll

Every day, I find myself thinking more and more like a Goon.
It's threads like this that push me that way....

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#78 - 2012-05-30 16:19:30 UTC
Bunnie Hop wrote:
It wasn't a demand in any form.
Uh-huh…

“If you want to force people into Rokhs, refund their points and let them put them into it instead.”

Just because it was based on a flawed and uninformed premise doesn't make it any less of a demand.

It's silly because all kinds of “sp remap/refund” requests are silly to begin with and because of that flawed premise. There is absolutely no reason CCP should give you something because of something players decide to do, and there is definitely no reason why they should give you any SP back.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#79 - 2012-05-30 16:20:23 UTC
silens vesica wrote:
Good Lord.
Roll

Every day, I find myself thinking more and more like a Goon.
It's threads like this that push me that way....

You're falling to the dark side.

Soon you'll be looking at a list of Catalysts with shiny blasters ... and it'll come naturally to you.

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Twulf
Thunder Clap Industry
#80 - 2012-05-30 16:22:26 UTC
Vaju Enki wrote:
TLDR: Theme Parker crying and rambling about something he can't possibly comprehend (Sandbox).


Stop saying EVE is a Sandbox and at the same time telling others how to play EVE.

EvE is anything but a Sandbox, it has some Sandbox elements but it is not a true sandbox, not even close.