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Formal Apology to Pantsufan

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Longinius Spear
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#81 - 2012-05-30 14:33:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Longinius Spear
PantsuFan wrote:
I will admit we did loose alot from this scam but we are still here and we are still alive so blackcamper aka Don Camper you sir have failed and are still a liar all assets lost equaled 16.53 bil lost not 50 bill so you are sir are not even close to correct please learn game dynamics a bit more and try and rip off some one whos lets bigger next time and not just the members who actully like you and tbh you scammed your own corp with lying and saying you was hacked when you wasent and you scammed you own friends inside this alliance who looked up to you.





This is one sentence. He used AND seven times! PRO !

slightly off topic and i'm sorry and i'll try to stop and be a better person and i'll try harder in life and i'm sure he was just 'mad bro' and i'm sure he is a great leader and I think its petty to pick on someones spelling and its hard to use this many ands.

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Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#82 - 2012-05-30 15:07:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Singeabooty Raj
This "Circus" of a thread has warmed up rather nicely. Nothing more entertaining than observing grown men squabble and trade cheap blows on the internet while going through the motions over the heist of a few virtual nik naks.

Black Man with Goggles
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#83 - 2012-05-30 15:11:35 UTC
Singeabooty Raj wrote:
This "Circus" of a thread has warmed up rather nicely. Nothing more entertaining than observing grown men squabble and trade cheap blows on the internet while going through the motions over the heist of a few virtual nik naks.


Leaning back and pretending to be smug is so very badass of you.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#84 - 2012-05-30 15:12:53 UTC
This has turned out rather well I think.

Terrible Poster Runner-up 2014
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#85 - 2012-05-30 15:18:33 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Singeabooty Raj wrote:
This "Circus" of a thread has warmed up rather nicely. Nothing more entertaining than observing grown men squabble and trade cheap blows on the internet while going through the motions over the heist of a few virtual nik naks.


Leaning back and pretending to be smug is so very badass of you.

Observing and analysing the actions of humans on the internet is indeed an enjoyable experience. I chose my words not to appear badass but in an attempt to keep a simmering pot simmering. Whats ruffled your feathers about that?

Black Man with Goggles
MaryJane T
Arctic Experiments
#86 - 2012-05-30 16:13:20 UTC
Quote:
Just so everyone knows Don Campers Main is BlackCamper
To set the record stright yes we had Blackcampers corp steal not just from my self which tbh was fine but taken from members who was just trying to enjoy the game. So i must say that Blackcamper you sir are a master at being a moron the BPO's was all yours as was the BPC kit you purchased from me you sir are retarted. I will admit we did loose alot from this scam but we are still here and we are still alive so blackcamper aka Don Camper you sir have failed and are still a liar all assets lost equaled 16.53 bil lost not 50 bill so you are sir are not even close to correct please learn game dynamics a bit more and try and rip off some one whos lets bigger next time and not just the members who actully like you and tbh you scammed your own corp with lying and saying you was hacked when you wasent and you scammed you own friends inside this alliance who looked up to you.

So all in all lets recap your a liar to not just my self but your own corp members, you betray people who call you a friend good job on that great way to show character, and lastly you a immature child its a game play it, if you had a problem with one person who was myself could have just scammed me not them members. BTW just so you know i have never been broke nor will I good job get your story stright and all has been remburst.


I put this wall'o'text it into Google translate and got it this:

It took us weeks to realize Don CAMPER was Black CAMPER's alt, and still didn't boot him after the theft. We buy plex when we have to reimburse stuff. Forget about those other alliances who only offer a ship replacement program, we offer a ALL ITEMS replacement program, recruiting open.


After going to eveskunk and reading what is, without a doubt one of the juiciest mails ever, 'Dasvidaniya' and then the Alliance CEO's reply, I have to say, excellent heist and madbro confirmed. http://www.eveskunk.com/?allianceID=99001787




Longinius Spear
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#87 - 2012-05-30 16:29:17 UTC
MaryJane T wrote:
Quote:
Just so everyone knows Don Campers Main is BlackCamper
To set the record stright yes we had Blackcampers corp steal not just from my self which tbh was fine but taken from members who was just trying to enjoy the game. So i must say that Blackcamper you sir are a master at being a moron the BPO's was all yours as was the BPC kit you purchased from me you sir are retarted. I will admit we did loose alot from this scam but we are still here and we are still alive so blackcamper aka Don Camper you sir have failed and are still a liar all assets lost equaled 16.53 bil lost not 50 bill so you are sir are not even close to correct please learn game dynamics a bit more and try and rip off some one whos lets bigger next time and not just the members who actully like you and tbh you scammed your own corp with lying and saying you was hacked when you wasent and you scammed you own friends inside this alliance who looked up to you.

So all in all lets recap your a liar to not just my self but your own corp members, you betray people who call you a friend good job on that great way to show character, and lastly you a immature child its a game play it, if you had a problem with one person who was myself could have just scammed me not them members. BTW just so you know i have never been broke nor will I good job get your story stright and all has been remburst.


I put this wall'o'text it into Google translate and got it this:

It took us weeks to realize Don CAMPER was Black CAMPER's alt, and still didn't boot him after the theft. We buy plex when we have to reimburse stuff. Forget about those other alliances who only offer a ship replacement program, we offer a ALL ITEMS replacement program, recruiting open.


After going to eveskunk and reading what is, without a doubt one of the juiciest mails ever, 'Dasvidaniya' and then the Alliance CEO's reply, I have to say, excellent heist and madbro confirmed. http://www.eveskunk.com/?allianceID=99001787







OOoo like this game !

I took that wall of text ... and went to google translate. Translated it from English (well what was close to english) into Russian then russian back to english, then english to afrikaans, then from afrikaans to finnish, then from finnish back to english... This is what I got.

Oddly it make more sense... Go google translate! +1!!

"Likewise, everyone knows Don campers important things Black Camper
The plate nut straight up, yes, we were Blackcampers Corporation steal not only from a TBH it was good, but what about those who just try to enjoy the game. So I have to tell you, sir, is a master Black Camper an idiot all your BPO was how BPC you bought from me, sir, is Retarted. I recognize that we have a lot of scam-free, but we are still here and we are still alive, so black camper famous Don Camper, sir, could not and still is a liar, all assets totaled 16.53 billion in lost lost 50 the bill is that you sir, not even close to the right to learn the dynamics of the game a little more and try to get someone who is able to more next time, not just members who actully how to cheat and TBH you own by a company to come to lie and say that it was compromised when you cheat and you wasent you have friends in the European Union who look up to you.

So in general can be summarized as your liar, not only for themselves but of their own members of the company, you betray the people who call you a friend of a good job, a good way designed to demonstrate and ultimately end, you're an immature child to his game, if you have a problem with a person who would have just lied to me, not their members. By the way, just so you know, I never broke, and I find his good work history and all was nut straight remburst."

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RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#88 - 2012-05-30 16:39:41 UTC  |  Edited by: RubyPorto
Singeabooty Raj wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Singeabooty Raj wrote:
This "Circus" of a thread has warmed up rather nicely. Nothing more entertaining than observing grown men squabble and trade cheap blows on the internet while going through the motions over the heist of a few virtual nik naks.


Leaning back and pretending to be smug is so very badass of you.

Observing and analysing the actions of humans on the internet is indeed an enjoyable experience. I chose my words not to appear badass but in an attempt to keep a simmering pot simmering. Whats ruffled your feathers about that?


Ohh, we have an internet Anthropologist *** Psychologist now. Double disciplines, how in the world do you balance that at a professional level?

I do think you are slightly anatomically confused; so far as I know mammals do not tend to have feathers.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Singeabooty Raj
Doomheim
#89 - 2012-05-30 16:58:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Singeabooty Raj
RubyPorto wrote:
Singeabooty Raj wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Singeabooty Raj wrote:
This "Circus" of a thread has warmed up rather nicely. Nothing more entertaining than observing grown men squabble and trade cheap blows on the internet while going through the motions over the heist of a few virtual nik naks.


Leaning back and pretending to be smug is so very badass of you.

Observing and analysing the actions of humans on the internet is indeed an enjoyable experience. I chose my words not to appear badass but in an attempt to keep a simmering pot simmering. Whats ruffled your feathers about that?


Ohh, we have an internet Anthropologist *** Psychologist now. Double disciplines, how in the world do you balance that at a professional level?

I do think you are slightly anatomically confused; so far as I know mammals do not tend to have feathers.

RubyPorto, while you have presented some valid points for consideration I fear that these communications between us are meandering into a sideshow that is detracting from the main "meat" of this thread.

Please let these men "duke" it out until all matters that require to be resolved are indeed resolved.

Black Man with Goggles
Garven Dreis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#90 - 2012-05-31 06:59:55 UTC
It keeps getting better

"PantsuFan" wrote:
Alliance Dues are due 15 mil per pserson except to those who i have cleared with otherwise omounts set
I know this is the last thing you guys wanted to know about if there are problems with the fees please contact me i am here and please just let me know


Since they have lost so much it's clearly time to rob them more.

Terrible Poster Runner-up 2014
Smegma Cheesedog
Doomheim
#91 - 2012-05-31 11:24:51 UTC
Singeabooty Raj wrote:
This "Circus" of a thread has warmed up rather nicely. Nothing more entertaining than observing grown men squabble and trade cheap blows on the internet while going through the motions over the heist of a few virtual nik naks.



you said it brother.
Jailbait MacGregor
Space Bender's
#92 - 2012-05-31 14:19:41 UTC
Quote:
"Pantsufan" wrote:
I will how ever repay for everyones losses that was ripped of from black camper. I was the most lost in all this and my loss is small in my eyes compared to what ever it was you guys lost even if it was small than mine


Quote:
"PantsuFan" wrote:
Alliance Dues are due 15 mil per pserson except to those who i have cleared with otherwise omounts set
I know this is the last thing you guys wanted to know about if there are problems with the fees please contact me i am here and please just let me know


Umm, let me see if I understand. I give you isk. You then use said isk to buy me stuff you let get stolen. How very generous of you! One question, how often do these robberies take place, I have heard now of several.

Griznatch
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
Domain Research and Mining Inst.
#93 - 2012-05-31 15:23:29 UTC
Just when I thought I had seen the furthest depths of human stupidity, along comes this. I didn't think such a thing was possible.

I used to have a clever sig but I lost it.
Longinius Spear
Semper Ubi Sub Ubi
#94 - 2012-05-31 15:44:15 UTC
Griznatch wrote:
Just when I thought I had seen the furthest depths of human stupidity, along comes this. I didn't think such a thing was possible.


Stay a while and listen! --- Deckard Cain

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Metal Icarus
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#95 - 2012-05-31 16:37:22 UTC
Welp.... this thread answers a ton of questions.....
Denarus Arran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#96 - 2012-05-31 17:43:34 UTC
Could we get the full story of this hilarious heist? Start to finish (Or at least up to 'to be continued'')

Got mah popcorn ready

PEWPEWPEW
MaryJane T
Arctic Experiments
#97 - 2012-05-31 18:13:22 UTC
From Eveskunk alliance mail sent post heist: http://www.eveskunk.com/?messageID=313224437
Quote:
Some useful information for your future life with the Skeleton Crew.

First, what we will examine below, in excruciating detail, is that no matter how good your individual security may be at the corp level, Panysufan has mortaged all of your futures by continually ignoring the security of the alliance. In short, whatever you do does not matter, your hard work and isk will be undone will be wasted, just as ours was.

Let's begin with the formation of the alliance. We poured lots of isk and risk into building up our pocket, which we were paying rent for. But the alliance began to crumble. The first signs of poor leadership was the FC'ing by Pants involving dropping caps on a tower with no support and keeping the siege green even when enemy super pilots began logging in and a red in local. The KB continued to bleed due to poor fitting enforcement, poor training and other reasons. Each day it seemed there was a new CTA, a new plan, no direction, no execution, just fail.

This began to attract some unsavory characters, who joined the alliance and spammed that we were going to lose the space, gimme all your stuff, Ill keep it safe and so on. Half the alliance left and a few badguys made off with billions of holding corp assets. Keep in mind Pants recruited them into the holding corp and gave them roles.

The next straw was recruiting someone else into the holding corp, with no background check or API check, who had been in 38 corps in 1 year, an obvious spy/awoxer. The next day he tackled a -A- renter Rorqual and lit a cyno for a gang who killed it, doing 5 bil in dmg to -A-. Pants still owes -A- for this Rorqual.

Next a coalition was formed so the KB would turn green. This worked, but SKEL only had 1 or 2 ships per fleet, and it was obvious that Pants was riding the coatails of everyone else. This and the failed diplo with Brick Squad cuased a lot of attrition, no more 50 in fleet on TS.

Numerous mails were sent and conversations had about how things were being neglected from a security perspective. Even -A-'s infield security chief had some concerns which were brought to the alliance. Nothing changed except we were all told we were moving.

While we understand the alliance is run as a dictatorship, the work we had put in, the plan the vision that was sold to us as to where, what and how the alliance was, was pulled out from under us by the very same leader who in his own words is consumed by greed. We lost billions, for doing what we were asked to do, and offered no reparations.

Here is where you should grab a tissue and a stuffed animal.


to be continued in next post
MaryJane T
Arctic Experiments
#98 - 2012-05-31 18:13:55 UTC
Part 2 of 2
Quote:
Looking for compensation, we found some low-hanging fruit left dangling in the breeze by Pants. We began by offlining and unanchoring the iHubs in all systems in the DZ6 area. We freightered these back to Dz6, they are now on the market for sale. We had a toon in the holding corp for some time with full roles, sound familiar?

We then created a fresh alt to give all of you fair warning via mail, as we really didnt harbor any ill-will to anyone except Pants for breaking his commitments to us. Sadly, very few followed the warning, choosing instead to believe the CEO had been hacked.

Obelisk on scan, local = 0 hmm. We find Pants' freighter floating in a POS. One of our pilots simply grabbed it and went to DZ6, took the moon goo (was only 1 bil, not the 20 bil he reported) and repacked the freighter for sale there. To be clear, the POS was not locked down at all, and the ship was floating in space. If it had been locked down, he would have gotten his stuff back on petition. Johan was right. Pants repsonse, lock down all POS towers until someone gives it back! lol.

Despite the full POS lockdown, we offlined a Large Shadow tower with the holding corp toon and hauled it out. We didnt have roles to pack the mods, so we flew around and found a few random nuets to come shoot them. Check the KB for all the stuff that went boom. You don't want to know what was in those POS mods when they got blown up by the Stain raiding party. Billions of isk worth of holding corp assets, gone.

Pants did nothing after the first night where he lost the large faction tower, he was too deer-in-headlights to manage any response. So we came back the next night and took down 3 large and 2 medium towers, Those of you that were using alliance towers, lost all your ships and loot in the process. The Stain guys were good enough to come through and pop all the mods on those as well the 2nd night.

Next we attacked and killed the newest member of the holding corp ratting in an Abby. Not suprisingly, she emoraged about blue on blue buttsecks. We rationalized our actions by identifying her as the person who took the iHubs. Pants saw she had roles to unanchor stuff so this allegation made sense. What he didnt realize is that we used our toon with rights in the holding corp to grant this girl her own rights, and Pants never checked the log. Instead, he claimed his PC had been hacked (lol) and wasted more time and resources petitoning CCP for what was his own mistake. The innocent Abby pilot not only lost her ship, but was also booted from corp. Why he was recruitng randoms again into his holding corp we have no idea.

Next, mails from DED began to pour in to all members about losing sov in all the systems (we offlined the TCUs and hauled those out as well) people started to panic. Another mail went out from our new alt saying it was over, get out, etc...timed to coincide with the arrival of the notifications about lost sov. Some of you ignored even this 2nd warning, choosing instead to have another glass of the Pants kool-aid. Other more prudent pilots/corps started to tear down POS'es, sermonize in the alliance chat that in fact it was "all over" and "the end is nigh". Pants was so broke at this point, he wasn't able to get iHubs back or TCUs online in the DZ6 area. Given that, you still moved with him out to X-6.

Mildly indifferent about our loot thus far, we were just about to leave the alliance when Pants asks if we would mind moving the alliance. First he has us pickup his final nest-egg from some random nul system where he had about 750k m3 of warchest, including more TCU's, SBUs, and another large faction tower, T3's etc. He also asked us to move stuff for the entire alliance, and send a mail about it. You may have read it.

We have now picked up over 60 contracts, most quite large. After taking a peek past the shrink wrap, it appears to be every ship, module, POS, BPO, drone, mineral, criminal dogtag, faction loot, and copy of Pax Amarria that the alliance owned, except a few caps you jumped out yourself and a few ships you died in on the way to the new home. There were many T3's and faction fit ships. It took us over 50 round trips in our group of JFs and carriers to move it all, it was a LOT of stuff.

Okay, so those of you who set up couriers that Pants asked you to, are wondering what has become of your stuff. You know that song "Destination Calabria" by Christal Waters where she sings "...destination unknown!"... Well, the good news is the desitnation is not unknown. The bad news is, the destination is Jita 4-4. A lot of alts were used to haul your stuff to Jita all weekend, which is why it has taken us so long to deal with the contracts.

We could have obviously kept this going forever, but we felt we had enough isk from Pants to cover our losses, and also everyone be given full visibilty as to why we did this, but also most importantly, understand if we did not do these things, somebody else would have. Johan was right, it was all preventable and Pants brought this down on you.

Who was involved from our side? All we have is this picture from a security camera in the DZ6 station of one of our JF pilots as he took a courier from Pants DZ6-SecCam 5-25

We hope you recover from your loss.

Dasvidaniya
Lenier Chenal
Offensive Upholder
#99 - 2012-05-31 20:11:55 UTC
I thought alliances shittier than my first one couldn't possibly exist, but here it is...

This is hilarious beyond belief.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#100 - 2012-05-31 22:01:35 UTC
[Heart]

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon