EVE General Discussion

Yup let's see you mine ice in that thing.

You know, the op made a really good point about how you can safely mine in highsec. Just about every one of his ideas would work too, though the intel channels would probably have to be separated by regions to be effective as someone else pointed out. This is how people tend to mine in null too, when mining does happen there, and it works against many small roaming gangs out there.Despite these suggestions being so good though, everyone else seems to be raging about goons in some form, or pretending to not be mad or something.

If you're going to do that then make your own thread, don't ruin this person's good idea. I'd love to see some actual player-driven change come out of hulkageddon. I may even visit highsec with my main again if it becomes less rotten.

Mine in low sec

Seriously. You are slightly safer there.

Your exhumer is liable to be ganked in both high or low sec. However, pirates looking to reap hulkageddon bounties are looking in high sec for miners, not low. Not to mention that the hulkageddon conditions specify "10 exhumers killed in high sec space will earn you 100m in bounties" meaning those in low don't count.

The availability of slightly rarer ore is just a cherry on top. Oh, and if your have protection, your bodyguards can shoot would-be gankers first in low sec, before they have a chance to engage you (unlike in high sec).


Alternatively, mine in retrievers/Covetors. Hulkageddon pirates don't get bounty credit for popping those and the value of the loot that you drop is much less. Not only is it cheaper to replace a mining barge, some pirates might not even bother with you if they don't think you're worth the sec status hit.

Dude you don't get it.
Anything can be ganked no matter how hard you tank it but that is not the point of mining in a Rokh. The point is it will be no easy gank nor a profitable gank.

- My point exactly
- You just ruined my evil plan to get some idiots to gank 200 mil isk hull with 1+ bil worth of Tornadoes.

So thank you sir.

First of all WW2 is a serious thing and associating it with a game is a bit too far.
Second, I think a number of people in this game, for some reason, make it so important for them that it takes priority on whatever.
For many others, expecially past a certain age and maturity, a video game is the last of the last of the last of the things to spend their energies on.
EvE is not worth making your blood pressure rise, it's just a game. Sure it's epic, and big and you can have a good time but in the end it's just a game.
This is why some believe it's worth pouring in whatever energies just to rise their head above the mud, and will go to great lengths doing what they hate just to hope and achieve some long term objective. The others? Won't bother. Call it laziness or whatever, it's an entertrainment and some have all of 10 minutes a day to get their little slice of it.

Example:
I like to do X. I have limited time to do X. I also like doing Y, but today I am not in the mood or I just don't have the time for it.

The current dominant groupthink believes and imposes on everybody that you must do Y or die.
They will concede you to do X but first - like a medicine - you must do Y.

Now, despite I actually like Y, I have a rebel nature so if I am imposed Y I will just tell them to GTFO by principle.

Being imposed a whole propaganda, a whole constant hammering and brainwashing is not what I pay a game for.
I get this garbage for free every day in RL just by turning on the television or reading a newspaper.

As for the safety off gankers, it's hard for them to get me in Jita IV.
I still risk about 10 billions per trade (see my website for logs, screen shots etc), which is a bit more than their expendable and now groupthink subsidized 2M ship.

When I am out of Jita I am in an Hurricane or Drake (I have several alts specced in different faction ships) roaming in The Forge seeking for -10 people to kill and assisting a mercs corp. I have just 30 minutes a day to do so though, I can't change that.

I am sure the two paragraphs above clearly indicate that I am not risk averse, but groupthink averse.

Ore yield per minute is greater than the Rokh's cargo space... To use effectively, you'd need to stagger activations and make sure you move ore to a can constantly and in a timely fashion. Finally... Mining is more exciting!

This won't work I don't think because miners are dumb... I've tried warning some of the locals in the system I afk mine when I saw gankers. They didn't accept my convo, and ignored my mail. I went out to the belt in a shuttle and watched their hulks get ganked.

Can you ice mine in a Rokh?

You know what? I looked at this Entropia game and it has one kind of PVP where you die and lose items costed real cash. Looks harsher than EvE.

But what hit me - an EvE and RL trader - is the fact you can gain real money. Now, I always found getting e-rich very easy but also quite pointless since you can't "redeem" the ISK into RL cash. Entropia seems to have that.
I am definitely going to see this game...