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Gank-proof ship to transport low-volume, high-value goods in empire space?
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Skorpynekomimi
#41 - 2012-05-28 15:08:36 UTC
Speed, tank, or cloak. Pick one.

Alternatively, use Red Frog. Costs more, yes, but you're insured against ganks, and YOU aren't at risk of being ganked for your cargo.

Economic PVP
FT Diomedes
The Graduates
#42 - 2012-05-28 16:41:16 UTC
Red Frog is the best option. 100mn MWD Orca is second best.

CCP should add more NPC 0.0 space to open it up and liven things up: the Stepping Stones project.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#43 - 2012-05-29 08:38:18 UTC
Damnation with a Legion for Boosts.

852k EHP with Slaves, and if someone wants to shoot 4 freighters worth of EHP, they'll shoot 4 freighters instead of trying to get ~100 people in the same place shooting the same target.

[Damnation, HS Transport]

Damage Control II
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corelum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

10MN MicroWarpdrive II
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

Improved Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Bibosikus
Air
#44 - 2012-05-29 10:49:27 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Damnation with a Legion for Boosts.

852k EHP with Slaves, and if someone wants to shoot 4 freighters worth of EHP, they'll shoot 4 freighters instead of trying to get ~100 people in the same place shooting the same target.



+1 Cool

Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
Veronica Kerrigan
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#45 - 2012-05-29 16:20:04 UTC
Or just insta warp in a shuttle...
Cutout Man
Doomheim
#46 - 2012-05-29 17:17:44 UTC
Its silly to train for 3 months to fly an Orca that costs 750mil to move small, high value items. Unless, maybe, it exceeds the volume of the available options. In hisec, the only goal is to not get locked. Thats it. No target lock, no scan, no die. Cloaky haulers and covops are always a good choice, but the MWD/Cloak trick works in hisec even better than it does losec (no one moves to kill you immediately). A cargo fitted industrial shuold handle most of the bigger stuff with mwd/cloak.

Again, very simple, your only goal is to not get target locked.
Mavnas
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2012-05-29 22:11:09 UTC
Small agile combat ships also tend to work simply because they're less likely to be scanned (don't stick around long and aren't particularly interesting). If you don't have the skills to fly an orca or transport ship they tend to work pretty well. I've also had my alts move 500m+ in a shuttle before.
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
#48 - 2012-05-29 22:51:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Michael Harari
[Legion, Hauler]

Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

10MN Afterburner II
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Legion Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer
Legion Defensive - Augmented Plating
Legion Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration
Legion Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix


Slave Alpha
Slave Beta
Slave Gamma
Slave Delta
Slave Epsilon
Slave Omega
Inherent Implants 'Noble' Hull Upgrades HG-1005



it will take around 35 tornados to kill you, assuming you **** up the cloaking and for some reason dont heat your ab and sig tank them.


Edit: Im bad, the damnation is better for this
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#49 - 2012-05-30 05:00:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Tarn Kugisa
Blockade runner
has cloak and aligns like a frig if you fit it right


[Viator, lolnope]
Expanded Cargohold II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Cargohold Optimization I

It also can pseudo-akf haul if you hit the MWD then cloak on approach

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Goran Konjich
Krompany
#50 - 2012-05-30 07:42:42 UTC
what is instant undock bookmark ?
what is pseudo-akf ?
what is instawarp ?
why hit MWD then cloak on approach ?

thx!

I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#51 - 2012-05-30 07:53:30 UTC
Goran Konjich wrote:
what is instant undock bookmark ?
what is pseudo-akf ?
what is instawarp ?
why hit MWD then cloak on approach ?

thx!


Google is your Friend.

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Tor Gungnir
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-05-30 07:59:27 UTC
Low volume, high value you say? Why not use a Cov-ops Frigate such as the Cheetah? Seems ideal to me.

Space. It seems to go on and on forever. But then you get to the end and a gorilla starts throwing barrels at you.
Goran Konjich
Krompany
#53 - 2012-05-30 08:32:39 UTC
RubyPorto wrote:
Google is your Friend.


thx for saving my time you freak with white shirt

I'm a diplomat. Sometimes i throw 425mm wide briefcases at enemy. Such is EVE.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#54 - 2012-05-30 08:45:52 UTC
Goran Konjich wrote:
RubyPorto wrote:
Google is your Friend.


thx for saving my time you freak with white shirt


You are so very welcome. I do try to help.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Nakkano
Microsoft Excel Club
#55 - 2012-05-30 11:05:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Nakkano
Lol at anyone flying in an industrial or small ship. Get serious for real. I would never carry around anything valuable in a paper tank.

Use a T3. You cannot fck with the EHP of a legion or proteus. We are talking 250-350K Ehp without slaves.
And it can cloak.

If you can't afford that, use a a shield buffer plus hull tanked battleship.
Oh, that sounds stupid? Try it in EFT. It's at least 200K ehp. This Rokh below checks out at 225k ehp.

[Rokh, F*** You, That's Why]
Damage Control II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II
Reinforced Bulkheads II

Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II

[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
Large Core Defense Field Extender I
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#56 - 2012-05-30 11:23:06 UTC
Nakkano wrote:
Lol at anyone flying in an industrial or small ship. Get serious for real. I would never carry around anything valuable in a paper tank.

Use a T3. You cannot fck with the EHP of a legion or proteus. We are talking 250-350K Ehp without slaves.
And it can cloak.

If you can't afford that, use a a shield buffer plus hull tanked battleship.
Oh, that sounds stupid? Try it in EFT. It's at least 200K ehp. This Rokh below checks out at 225k ehp.


Armor's better cause you'll forget to turn on the active hardeners the one gate you get a gank attempt. Also, you need a mid for your MWD.

230k EHP plain, 560k with a legion, Slaves, and Navy Enams.

[Abaddon, HS Hauling]

Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I

100MN MicroWarpdrive II
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]
[Empty Med slot]

Improved Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]
[Empty High slot]

Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I
Large Trimark Armor Pump I

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon
Mike Whiite
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#57 - 2012-05-30 14:10:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Mike Whiite
Covert-ops blockade runner with below 4 sec align time, should save you from almost anything.

leaves you only vunrable when undocking.

which is best solved with.

1) dock up again if you think you're threatned (first 30 seconds you're invunrable if you do nothing after undocking after 10 seconds you can dock again)

2) make safe point in a straight line from undocking, undock use you 30 seconds to let the ship reach max speed and warp to safe point.
Katja Faith
Doomheim
#58 - 2012-05-30 18:41:33 UTC
Tobiaz wrote:
Dodona wrote:
Kolya Medz wrote:
How low volume? If your moving stuff that hardly takes space, like implants and BPs, use a ceptor. You'll warp before they can even scan you. If you moving a larger amount of stuff then ya, get an orca, the unscannable bay is great.


Never fly valuables in anything that will die to smartbombs.


High-sec suicide gankers generally don't use smartbombs.Roll


Thanks for saving me the time.
nahjustwarpin
SUPER DUPER SPACE TRUCKS
#59 - 2012-05-30 19:10:15 UTC
Mike Whiite wrote:
Covert-ops blockade runner with below 4 sec align time, should save you from almost anything.

leaves you only vunrable when undocking.

which is best solved with.

1) dock up again if you think you're threatned (first 30 seconds you're invunrable if you do nothing after undocking after 10 seconds you can dock again)

2) make safe point in a straight line from undocking, undock use you 30 seconds to let the ship reach max speed and warp to safe point.


ship undocks with max speed, no need to wait for anything.
Tarn Kugisa
Kugisa Dynamics
#60 - 2012-05-31 04:40:30 UTC
Trick is to avoid being ganked in the first place. Just like diseases/injury/poison.


Other than a Blockade Runner, I'd use a Interdiction-Nulliffied Cloaky T3, if you plan on going to bubbleland(Null)
Fit the [Racial] Propulsion - Interdiction Nullififer and [Racial] Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration. Lets you fit covops cloak and lets you zoom through bubbles.

Don't forget Warp Core Stabs as well

Be polite. Be efficient. Have a plan to troll everyone you meet - KuroVolt