EVE General Discussion

I'd say his ego handled the situation incredibly well. He managed to turn it all for good, despite the fact that he had in certain way "betrayed" those who voted for him in CSM elections. Besides, there is nothing wrong in using what the sandbox has to offer: all the people who complain about goons could do something to it, instead of whine and ask the game to change, ban the goons or whatever comes to your mind. You could actually arrange and make something happen in the game! It may not be easy and might take some time, but everything is possible.

Logically this article was aimed towards people who think they live in a baby cradle and think nothing can harm them. There are miners and industrialists and PvE-players, who know that this game is harsh and they act that way: they take precautions and if they get blown up, they come back even stronger than before. Instead of, uh, hop into forums and write something like: "boohooo, CCP do something to it, or I'll unsub!".

He doesn't log on as "The Mittani" very often. Pay attention, exact wording is important!

Also: He's paid to write those 10 Ton Hammer columns, I think. So yeah. He's literally paid to be the leader of Goonswarm. He's entitled to a little ~smug~ in his life.

Personally I agree (gasp) with the Titanni on his point of pvp being non-optional. The option to do or be anything is the core of Eve Online, even to be a goon if you choose.

However I also believe that all hi-sec so-called pvp is as a rule pathetic, as are the sub-life forms that engage in it, with the suicide gankers being the lowest class of said sub-life form.

The sad thing is, if the highsec miners hadn't killed nullsec mining with their incessant bitching at CCP, illegal botting, and general "Screw EVE, wallet flashes make me hard" mentality, then these suicide gankers would be off in Nullsec, hunting nullsec miners.

Except there aren't any, because ~~bot bot bot~~.

None my friend


Nope, as I said, the core of Eve is to be whatever you want to be, even a goon.


That is entirely incorrect. Ratting in supers in the drone regions is what killed all forms of mining, both hi-sec and nul-sec. But that has now been fixed, to the contentment of a hive of busy miners that I personally know in both areas.

Suicide ganking is pathetic, and no justification will make it any less so.

Only if you do ones that simply require you to shoot everything, and if you only do them for the LP, and if you don't cash in that LP, and if you do them in a newbie ship with newbie weapons…

…anything more than that, and you've engaged in plenty competitive activities. Sure, the actual “accept mission” and “complete mission” buttons can't really be out-competed — you're all alone with the game for those two button presses. Anything before, after, and in-between on the other hand…

…in competition with other miners who are after the same ore.

May I second myself to strike off your head?

Good read; good points...
it is vital to give 0.0 mining a perspective now that there is, next to other things, no drone poo anymore. I like the pragmatic approach here...actually there are quite some paralells to RL economic problems...

SO suicide ganking is indeed very important for the whole eve industry and economy.
Adidionally I agree that there never should be a place (except docked in high sec) where there is full security....that would ruin the very idea of EvE.

Great article. All these non trolls crying make me want to puke. If CCP caves to these mongs I.... I dunno what I'd do.