Player Features and Ideas Discussion

100% fully supported. Not even sarcasm. I'm a "vet" since 2006 and I seem to be the only person in this game who thinks the spaceflight and basic game mechanics need completely revamped. Nice to see I'm not alone.

I don't know if I agree with your exact method of changing the travel, but I think EVE needs a new propulsion system.

My thoughts were:

We still have some gates (in high sec, and "regional gates", that take you from one constellation to the next) but... warp drive is used to travel between closely related systems in the same constellation.

So there would, in theory lets say, one gate per constellation, connected to any given number of neighboring constellations (the main or "capital" system of each constellation is the one with the gate), and then our ships use warp to fly out of the main system to the peripherals.

I would like to see a system like that, implemented with varying degrees of gate density based on security status. The highly populated empire systems might still have almost as many gates as they do now, practically a gate in every system. But then as you go deeper into lower security space, gates get less common and manual flight between star systems becomes necessary.

This would make 0.0 SO much more "uncharted"... if we felt isolated, and it took anywhere from several minutes to an hour to warp to another solar system. There would be an extremely interesting dynamic of sending a fast warping, cov ops, cyno scout into enemy systems, taking only a couple minutes. Which could then deploy a cyno and bring in the titans, bridges, whatever...

I HATE the current system of warp to gate, jump, warp to gate jump, travel that we have now. It's utterly boring and pretty much defines the gameplay of EVE (therefore making EVE boring and ******).

Bringing it back... the best idea ever, that everyone hated (because EVE players are averse to any improvements)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=78946&p=6

everyone in EVE: "instead of trying to change this game go find another one"

^^^^^^^ worst attitude ever.

No. Just no.


Gates makes sense. Cyno makes sense. You don't make sense.

Why try to pitch an idea that you know will never be done? You sir, are an idiot.

LOL.. It might remove gate camps, but if that's your idea of PVP then you suck, quite frankly. If all you can do is hang around a gate and take a whack at people that come through you're really not trying.

And if you can't get through a gate camp maybe you should switch to another game.

So what's your idea of it then? Wandering deep into nullsec and ganking ratters? You'll be making it much harder to defend them after all...

Bad ideas are bad.

Lovely. I did not show up that soon, so I missed the first part you described.

And now for my point: I am right.

History aside, as how we got here has no impact on this discussion, the sandbox you mentioned has requirements.

For gameplay to be engaging, you need to be doing more than just hide and seek. You need to have conflict.
In the vastness of space, (realistically portrayed), you just need to avoid sensor range of any potentially hostile force in order to avoid risk.

That poses a serious obstacle to gameplay, where the desired goal is fighting with spaceships. If we wanted to be on never ending hunts, there are plenty of other games for that.

So we engineered bottlenecks. Predictable locations where people must pass, allowing ambushes to be set, and counter-ambushes to be planned in response. Things explode... joy!

See?

Cyno's can't be used in high-sec. They also are used to jump light years, not typically one system. Troll.

I think this is a pretty slick idea. I love the idea that camping becomes less predictable. We could start running into "gate camps" at celestial objects. I think on the warp into the system you would HAVE to come in on a celestial. Could be any celestial in the system, but it would have to be one. Coming in on random places in the system increases safety way to much I think in low/null sec areas.

A new item could be implemented for poses or outposts that could be used in null sec space to force ships to a warp in spot. Which means in sovereignty held space you could force ALL traffic to one camp rather than having 4 or 5 gates to cover in a system. The unit could require sovereignty, be used like a warp bubble that doesn't prevent warp, and can not be anchored anywhere near pos's or guns.

Probes would become more useful in a system where sov can not be held. Just a few ideas to add to this.

+1 I support this, but needs more work....

Learn to use them in conjunction with your dscanner and you can pin down targets unless they are absolutely spamming dscan. I've gotten on top of quiet a few ships that ask me later how I did it without my probes showing up. Learn to use the tools provided to you.



Local needs to go, that BS is long over due. We have pleanty of tools to find ships in a system. People seem to function fine in wormspace. And if you see my post I offer a solution to logistical issues for sovernty held space. I say tough crap otherwise. I think if more people felt safe (didn't have to go through gate camps) they might undock their orca's in war more often and that is fun.

I think for high/low sec where a unit can't be used to force warp in, we could put a restriction of you land on the same planet (or selected based on location where planet numbers between systems are different) in the target system which you left in the old system. If you warp away from planet IV being your closest planet then you land near planet four in the new system.

Using this, if you track down what planet they are warping from within a few jumps, you can get ahead of them with tackle. Just takes a bit more skill, something I don't think Eve players lack.. Of course I've been proven wrong before.


alter the warp distance so they can't lock onto a designated place after a certain range and thus come into a default spot in the system. Say if the warp is more than a half a light year between system (pick whatever range is fair) there is no control over where you land, but you instead land in a default location. Of course that default location would need to be discovered, not just handed out by ccp (more scout work).