Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Eve sub drop or even eve small number of subs in the first place is down to a lot of reasons ofc, one of the main reasons is the executions of their ideas. I'm not working for CCP so im not going to show you spreadsheets and market research on people reasons of not persisting of playing the game be it after a patch or the first month of playing.

If you did read what i put, these are also some of the reasons of it, patches over patches over patches after 8 years make for a crooked building, that shows signs of flaws and unbalances, but patches that change game mechanics in a 1 time mmo environment, it creates an unbalance for the old and for the new. The only way the one world thing would ever work for efficiency and for a game that is so competitive based on tiny changes to mechanics and fuelled by isk is for in a one server MMO format to perfect the mechanics first then to never change them in patches, which is what a new server could be subject to.

Tagline is redundant now with the way players use the test server and the Chinese server.

you mad?

Thanks for making yourself look stupid :).

I don't think OP reaizes they destroyed their own post, by admitting there are probably tons of other reasons why the subs dropped.

As for the persistent world being a selling point, it IS the main one, everyone i know who plays EVE will admit to joining for one of 2 reasons
1) the complexity
2) Single persistent world
and as far as i can tell, half the games complexity comes from the single server, since it FORCES players to be competitive or die.

as far as the test server / chinese server, china has their own dedicated server for alot fo agmes, some its because of their masssive population that the players may unify and dominate the agme, otgher times it is because their governemnt is a B****.
the test server is because it is a TEST server, so they can implement ideas into a controlled space without accidentaly effecting the rest of the game while they try to work out the bugs.

No,

Because my first idea is to sell my t2 bs cause I can only fly a frig again.

What have I been paying for a subcription till now for? - To keep skilling the character.

No. It's because the Chinese government...
- requires that all games played within its borders be laced with "spyware security" to monitor its citizens...
-- which is to keep track of how much time its citizens play games (seriously, the Chinese government says you can only play X amount of hours per day)...
-- so it can monitor all the chat channels for "subversive content" and/or "information"...
-- it knows who is playing, when they are playing, and where they are playing...
- doesn't like certain content and requires that things be made PC according to their values...
- doesn't want us westerners to mingle with its "loyal citizens" and "taint them with corrupt values"...
- has a myriad of laws and regulations that just make it a pain in the ass to connect the local populations with groups abroad.

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Almost forgot... "No" to the OP's idea. It just makes all the time and effort that people put into the game moot and breeds resentment among anyone who actually accomplishes anything tangible.
It's also creates a scenario where people will come to expect that a "new server" be created each time there is an "imbalance" (see: each time a group or two achieves "superiority" over everyone else).

I have an account on Serenity ( Chinese Server ) its great fun but fully language translated so helping me study Mandarin.
There are time limits on how much you can play for health reasons as too many young chinese boys were doing bad at school due to online games ( not EvE its tiny here ) so the government put a rule on all online games to 5 hours of play in every 24hr period so you can play for a solid 10 hours if you put midnight in the middle.
( Skills / POS times e,t,c still run as normal ... Time Dilation would be a disaster )

The rest of the stuff above about government censorship is not true.

Its fun to play on a different server and was fun making my first 5 Million ISK again.
I think the biggest difference is no T2 BPOs , that I can see , so that means a more level playing field nobody can create monopolies and all T2 must come from invention and creation of low run BPC. There is no T3 yet the server is very far behind in terms of versions and features ... its not even run by CCP a chinese company hosts and buys the patches / updates.

I agree or make all current T2 BPO into BPC with 999 runs and decent ME / TE then at least there is a light at the end of the tunnel and this problem will be resolved in about a year or so.

Huh? Some of the T2 BPO horders since 2006 are considered the richest in the game. Are you saying if your lucky enough to play the game since long enough ago and notice flaws in the game which will be taken away for future players in patches deserve it? ok :).

Not true ... its scale and all the background stuff that makes the advantage ... consider the idea that I want to make 10,000 Conflagration Large Advanced Pulse Laser Crystals

Without the BPO the Invention slots, time finding a station or even building a POS in safe / non-safe space e.t.c is so long winded and expensive I simply can not compete when they only sell for around 1.2 Million ISK each ... This is where the money is and where the 2006 players just rake it in .... low level T2 BPO's that just make small amount hundreds of times a day on products that expire such as ammo.

This is a little off topic now to a "fresh start" and I am not saying its a fix for everything but making changes to the game that remove monopolies but still give the people with the monopolies potentially years notice to adjust, has to be good for younger newer players going forward.... and this is coming from a 2006 player