EVE General Discussion

I wrote this up after reading this article
http://www.evenews24.com/2012/05/29/goonswarm-federation-sponsors-emergent-gameplay/

Emergent gameplay, at it's most basic form, is evolution driven by player interaction with the game world. Hulkageddon and it's extension are carried out under the banner of the concept of emergent gameplay; EVE evolves with the community. Trying to dig the deepest hole in the sandbox and seeing what happens is certainly nothing to sneer at, especially when the builders of the sandbox are standing by with explicit instructions to do whatever you want, within reason.

However, I would submit that the mantle of emergent gameplay is being taken up without really understanding what it means. Hulkageddon is a noteworthy delve into creating ripples in the pond but actions like extending it indefinitely are pushing things beyond the label of emergent gameplay. It starts creeping into the realm of forcibly changing the culture of a community; "play the game our way or we'll drive you out." This isn't helped with the event being sponsored by a monolithic player presence in the game where opting out of the experience is not a viable choice.

This risks pushing the EVE universe into a state where it is no longer EVE. Not dead but not entirely alive either. It risks creating a landscape in the game where events like Hulkageddon or Burn Jita can no longer happen because the player base is no longer able to support it, the player overlords find it deleterious to their economic interests, or the creators decide that too much sand has been spilled outside the sandbox.

I see the lock is already here.

Or the miners could adapt and start fitting a tank.

Yeah, that annoying non-consensual pvp. Ergh !

I like Goons Online.

It's not a sand box if CCP steps in and tells us how to play either. Buff hulks and /or turn concord into the United Nations instead of the League of Nations.

But keep it a sandbox please......

I support suicide ganking agaisnt players (in game of course.)

Ok, maybe OP went too far with the imagination thing, because obviously he can't see the whole picture. But he's right about one thing - it's not emergent gameplay. It's protecting the interests of Goonswarm Federation with heavy propaganda on the side in order to present it as "emergent gameplay".

Protecting your own interests is by all means OK in EVE. It's the "helping the community" and "emergent gameplay" propaganda that's too hard to swallow.

@OP: If a lot of players are playing the game without thinking or applying any type of strategy or protection for years, it does not mean that some evil evil man is going to ruin the game by making them think or use effort for a change.

I doubt you would. I doubt even Mittens himself would.

It's hard to rebel against The Man when you ARE The Man.

Exactly, im not a goon and i am 100% with them on this. Sandbox FTW.

Any large nullsec holders with a lot of miners (human or not) in safe systems are for it. It makes their minerals cost more.