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Jori McKie
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#61 - 2012-05-29 19:35:27 UTC
I can not understand why real people still mining in highsec, it's safer in 0.0 and much much more profitable. So if you really want to mine apply to any bigger 0.0 alliance tell them you are a dedicated miner and you will be in seconds.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#62 - 2012-05-29 19:35:52 UTC
Salo Aldeland wrote:
Are the indefinite bounties only for T2 Exhumers?


Correct, but it's only Mackinaws and Hulks.

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Richard Desturned
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#63 - 2012-05-29 19:36:23 UTC
Jori McKie wrote:
I can not understand why real people still mining in highsec, it's safer in 0.0 and much much more profitable. So if you really want to mine apply to any bigger 0.0 alliance tell them you are a dedicated miner and you will be in seconds.


problem is that being safe in 0.0 involves "not going AFK" which is surely a difficult proposition for your average hisec miner

npc alts have no opinions worth consideration
Zoe Athame
Don't Lose Your Way
#64 - 2012-05-29 19:37:53 UTC
Oh, EVE, how I love you so.
Jori McKie
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#65 - 2012-05-29 19:43:09 UTC
Richard Desturned wrote:
Jori McKie wrote:
I can not understand why real people still mining in highsec, it's safer in 0.0 and much much more profitable. So if you really want to mine apply to any bigger 0.0 alliance tell them you are a dedicated miner and you will be in seconds.


problem is that being safe in 0.0 involves "not going AFK" which is surely a difficult proposition for your average hisec miner


Maybe but even in 0.0 you can go semi afk, you will be in a fleet with a squad or wing commander, in case of emergency he will warp you to a POS. Sure the squad and wing commander has to pay attention to intel and neuts in system but how hard is that. As a side note you can easily make any system into a mining heaven just upgrade the indu level to 4 or 5 and hidden belts will pop out like nothing even more lucrative and even more safe.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar
MotherMoon
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2012-05-29 19:52:18 UTC
wait...so... you created you're own quest system ? that really gives out payments automatically?

wow, my hat off to you sir

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#67 - 2012-05-29 19:55:31 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
wait...so... you created you're own quest system ? that really gives out payments automatically?

wow, my hat off to you sir

Yes, it's a quest.

Gank: 10 Exhumer-class ships

Turn in: Automatic

Reward: 100 million ISK.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#68 - 2012-05-29 19:55:42 UTC
MotherMoon wrote:
wait...so... you created you're own quest system ? that really gives out payments automatically?

wow, my hat off to you sir
See? And then people try to claim it's not emergent. Big smile
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#69 - 2012-05-29 20:04:52 UTC
Scatim Helicon wrote:
Richard Desturned wrote:
we're providing game content to suicide gankers who won't have to grind up ISK to buy more destroyers, we're providing game content to the miners who get to play the game to replace their exhumers

everyone wins!

One could go so far as to say that Goons have, yet again, saved Eve.


Actually it's very, very pathetic that all the content that can be brought to this game is about ganking random miners.

I don't know how this is saving EvE. It's more like adding some fantastic tomato on a turd and then say you saved pizzas.

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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#70 - 2012-05-29 20:16:45 UTC
Jori McKie wrote:
I can not understand why real people still mining in highsec, it's safer in 0.0 and much much more profitable. So if you really want to mine apply to any bigger 0.0 alliance tell them you are a dedicated miner and you will be in seconds.


Yeah you will be slammed in a renter pet with no stations, 1 POS anchored to an atmospheric gases moon and demanded some billions a month just for being there.

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Malphilos
State War Academy
Caldari State
#71 - 2012-05-29 20:23:53 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Jori McKie wrote:
I can not understand why real people still mining in highsec, it's safer in 0.0 and much much more profitable. So if you really want to mine apply to any bigger 0.0 alliance tell them you are a dedicated miner and you will be in seconds.


Yeah you will be slammed in a renter pet with no stations, 1 POS anchored to an atmospheric gases moon and demanded some billions a month just for being there.


Possibly, perhaps even probably.

It's been explained that CCP's vision for null is as a place where some players can exercise power over others.

This is the game you pay for. No surprises here.
Jori McKie
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#72 - 2012-05-29 20:26:10 UTC
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
Jori McKie wrote:
I can not understand why real people still mining in highsec, it's safer in 0.0 and much much more profitable. So if you really want to mine apply to any bigger 0.0 alliance tell them you are a dedicated miner and you will be in seconds.


Yeah you will be slammed in a renter pet with no stations, 1 POS anchored to an atmospheric gases moon and demanded some billions a month just for being there.


That might be the case 6months ago, right now 0.0 miners are a precious good, you don't have to sell yourself short. I know several guys which rented a system (500m per month) that has no worth at all upgraded the indu level to 5 and just happily farming the hidden belts.
So your implication that 0.0 miners are better slaves is wrong.

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." - Abrazzar
Abora Braa
Doomheim
#73 - 2012-05-29 20:29:39 UTC
im sorry but i dont understand all the hysterical woot woots going on here, if you heroes could actually post your hulk kills on here i might be impressed, but lets be honest, 90% of you haven't killed anything, have you, little boys and girls ! get real, stop hanging on the coattails of others and play the game YOUR way .
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#74 - 2012-05-29 20:40:20 UTC
Dear CCP,

Please do not buff the Hulk. Rather, give us the natural response to such lawlessness, give us the technology of active defense. Not after-the-fact repair, not three command ships, maybe, in a mining fleet. Give players a way, if they band together, to prevent an alpha strike. Do not reduce the danger, but increase the opportunity for teamwork.

Give us a new ship and new modules for intercession. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610

Regards,

Valerie

Tactical destroyers... I'll take a dozen Gallente, please.
Riyal
invidious Squid
#75 - 2012-05-29 20:40:59 UTC
Nice move, so hulk removal is set to become a full time profession? Maybe pay for a splash banner advertising this turn of events?

Also I see the badly written impotent rage posts have already started.

In hindsight my post should have had more psssshhhh
EVE Roy Mustang
Doomheim
#76 - 2012-05-29 20:42:36 UTC
Its funny.... they want to hurt highsec miners, what theyre doing is helping those of us who know how to do it and NOT die
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#77 - 2012-05-29 20:43:50 UTC
Valerie Tessel wrote:
Dear CCP,

Please do not buff the Hulk. Rather, give us the natural response to such lawlessness, give us the technology of active defense. Not after-the-fact repair, not three command ships, maybe, in a mining fleet. Give players a way, if they band together, to prevent an alpha strike. Do not reduce the danger, but increase the opportunity for teamwork.

Give us a new ship and new modules for intercession. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610

Regards,

Valerie


Or you could just mine in a battleship.
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
#78 - 2012-05-29 20:48:36 UTC  |  Edited by: MeBiatch
Vicky Somers wrote:
Valerie Tessel wrote:
Dear CCP,

Please do not buff the Hulk. Rather, give us the natural response to such lawlessness, give us the technology of active defense. Not after-the-fact repair, not three command ships, maybe, in a mining fleet. Give players a way, if they band together, to prevent an alpha strike. Do not reduce the danger, but increase the opportunity for teamwork.

Give us a new ship and new modules for intercession. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610

Regards,

Valerie


Or you could just mine in a battleship.


indeed just like when there was the completely blanced AOE DD... you could just pvp in a maxed HP BS...

i mean it was fun for the titan pilot to kill 100+ ships in one go so why is it wrong for a desi to kill a hulk in one go?

There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:

Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad.
Vicky Somers
Rusty Anchor
#79 - 2012-05-29 20:50:11 UTC
MeBiatch wrote:
indeed just like when there was the completely blanced AOE DD... you could just pvp in a maxed HP BS...

i mean it was fun to the titan pilot to kill 100+ ships in one go so why is it wrong for a desi to kill a hulk in one go?

wat?
Valerie Tessel
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#80 - 2012-05-29 20:57:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Valerie Tessel
MeBiatch wrote:
Vicky Somers wrote:
Valerie Tessel wrote:
Dear CCP,

Please do not buff the Hulk. Rather, give us the natural response to such lawlessness, give us the technology of active defense. Not after-the-fact repair, not three command ships, maybe, in a mining fleet. Give players a way, if they band together, to prevent an alpha strike. Do not reduce the danger, but increase the opportunity for teamwork.

Give us a new ship and new modules for intercession. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=97610

Regards,

Valerie


Or you could just mine in a battleship.


indeed just like when there was the completely blanced AOE DD... you could just pvp in a maxed HP BS...

i mean it was fun for the titan pilot to kill 100+ ships in one go so why is it wrong for a desi to kill a hulk in one go?

The Hulk should be a specialized ship. It probably should be weak, vulnerable and tempting. But the miner would have three of his buddies in the field with him flying Aegis destroyers to actively defend from gankers. Buffs to solo mining are not the answer. Corpmates ought to be able to intercede if they choose to. Except nothing in the game functions in such a manner that allows you to get in the way of incoming fire for another. It's a gap in the game.

Have a handful of guys sitting in destroyers fend off the initial alpha. In fleets, they become the initial defensive shell that must be cracked with frigates. Bigger role for noobs, better reason for teamwork. Mining solo would be asking for it, at that point.

Tactical destroyers... I'll take a dozen Gallente, please.