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ISBoxer allowed or not

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Philip Canning
Doomheim
#1 - 2012-05-28 21:34:35 UTC
Hi guys just got a super nice pc and can run like 10 accounts pv eve on it at once so was thinking I'd get isboxer and help menmulti box what I'd like is a dev to post with ccps ya or na on it's use cheers dev peeps


Ps pls tell me yes or no before locking my post yet again cheers
Corina Jarr
en Welle Shipping Inc.
#2 - 2012-05-28 21:35:28 UTC
The answer is yes. As long as you do the controlling, its fine if commands are sent simultaneously to each client.
Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2012-05-28 21:49:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Vera Algaert
You have to understand that since Sreegs took over CCP has mostly refrained from white-listing tools.

Before, you had them posting blanket statements like "using a G15 won't get you banned", today they will tell you "read the EULA/ToS" and only comment on specific use cases like "I have programmed my G15 to press F1-F8 at once. Is that ok?" or "I have programmed my G15 to keep my strip miner cycling. Is that ok?"

You can use InnerSpace (which ISBoxer relies on) to do very naughty things and it does in fact form the foundation for a couple of bots.

Using ISBoxer for input replication only is probably fine (petition to make sure) but i wouldn't be too surprised if you do eventually get caught in the crossfire between CCP and the bot programmers.

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Xearal
Dead's Prostitutes
The Initiative.
#4 - 2012-05-28 21:52:21 UTC
As mentioned.. file a petition to be sure.. but afaik, using a tool like that, to control 10 accounts at the same time, with you 'behind the wheel' of every one of them, instead of them being totally automated, is ok.

There's some guy out there who runs a 10 tengu fleet to do incursions I believe like that.

Does railgun ammunition come in Hollow Point?

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#5 - 2012-05-28 21:52:37 UTC
Anyone tried isboxer for bombing?

I've been tempted for a while to train up bombers on a couple more accounts, so I can sit in a system and have fun with 5 manticores, but im not sure how well it all works. Is it just like controlling one screen, or is there more involved that makes it useless for any pvp-style play?

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2012-05-28 21:53:51 UTC
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Anyone tried isboxer for bombing?

I've been tempted for a while to train up bombers on a couple more accounts, so I can sit in a system and have fun with 5 manticores, but im not sure how well it all works. Is it just like controlling one screen, or is there more involved that makes it useless for any pvp-style play?

would be viable

see this video for what ISBoxer can do for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBfmk2yS2c

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Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#7 - 2012-05-28 22:26:06 UTC
if you are gaining an advantage by making using multiple accounts easier, then that is considered unfair.

If you want 10 accounts, you can work for it, the hard way, as we all would.

But seriously, are you that fail that you need 10 accounts? I WIN plenty with 1 account and 1 toon on it. Why can't you?

So Eve really is PAY to WIN.
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#8 - 2012-05-28 22:41:48 UTC
Vera Algaert wrote:
Simi Kusoni wrote:
Anyone tried isboxer for bombing?

I've been tempted for a while to train up bombers on a couple more accounts, so I can sit in a system and have fun with 5 manticores, but im not sure how well it all works. Is it just like controlling one screen, or is there more involved that makes it useless for any pvp-style play?

would be viable

see this video for what ISBoxer can do for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFBfmk2yS2c

Cheers, will have a look I get back home (on 3g atm), would be pretty awesome if this actually works :D

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Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2012-05-28 22:43:27 UTC
Sure isboxer in of it self is fine.

I use it all the time simply cause it handles even 2 clients better then running 2 native eve clients

10 clients good luck with that, I am not that committed to try and run that many clients at the same time.
Let alone have to pay for them.

Miilla
Hulkageddon Orphanage
#10 - 2012-05-28 22:50:57 UTC
So if we can make you rage quit we cost CCP 10 accounts, I'm game :)
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2012-05-28 22:52:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
I will say one thing though.

The only people I knew that ran 10 or more clients where 0.0 miners that could control that many things at once cause the roids where big enough to make it practical.

If someone was running 10 clients in high-sec at the same time.
That would definitely peak my interest as to what they are doing with them and I would definitely looking to see what else they are running besides ISboxer.

And if you tell me that you are going mission run with 10 clients then clearly mining is no longer the most boring thing to do in this game.
Philip Canning
Doomheim
#12 - 2012-05-29 13:13:03 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
well the tengu gang incurtion systle was the main reason, make some isk and buy all the shiny stuff eve has
Philip Canning
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-05-29 13:14:02 UTC
but the petition is oin just waiting for a reply
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#14 - 2012-05-29 13:20:18 UTC
Came here thinking this post was about men's underwear. I wear boxers.
Left dissapointed.
Lucy Ferrr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2012-05-29 14:01:51 UTC
I really hope something like this isnt allowed. You shouldn't be able to use macro programs to gain an advantage. . This is no better than botting.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#16 - 2012-05-29 14:05:59 UTC
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
I really hope something like this isnt allowed. You shouldn't be able to use macro programs to gain an advantage. . This is no better than botting.
In order: it is, you aren't, and it is.

The assumption here is that it's made for input duplication, not macroing or botting.
Owena Owoked
Dedicated Individuals Committed to Killing
#17 - 2012-05-30 08:36:58 UTC
I have never used this tool but I am interested in how it works. After reading some of the wikis on it and the information from the pages I think this would be awesome for me. Has anyone used this in PvP? Have you done multiple jobs in PVP while using it and how does it work out? Normaly I just have a few windows open at the same time and click back and forth from them but if I only needed one window to control them all I think it would be a great advancement to my playing.
Tobiaz
Spacerats
#18 - 2012-05-30 09:39:14 UTC
I'd wish CCP just made ISBoxer illegal. It might not be botting, but by transforming the client but it's almost as bad, allowing players to cheat on the consequences for choosing to multibox.

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saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-05-30 09:55:09 UTC
Yes ISboxer is allowed. I also was interested by this program and petitioned and got the responce that basicaly, as long as you are physicaly inputting the commands then its ok.

On another note, EvE isnt the ideal game to Isbox, its windows and mouse broadcasting/video fx take quite some configuring, Dont get me wrong, it is possible to get a working setup for what ever you need to do, just be aware its a pain to get going properly initialy. That said the Isboxer forums/community are very helpful!

But yeah, its 100% totally legal :)

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saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#20 - 2012-05-30 09:56:28 UTC  |  Edited by: saltrock0000
Lucy Ferrr wrote:
I really hope something like this isnt allowed. You shouldn't be able to use macro programs to gain an advantage. . This is no better than botting.



Isboxer is not a macro program. It offers the ability to make keybinds which is no different to the g18 keyboard. Feel free to go and investogate the program, even purchase and use it, you will find no macro system :)



OP i jsut saw your post about the tengu fleet and wanting to "!jew some isk" Yes you can do that. My main and only pointer would be to setup video FX so you can see each characters overview (or important section) and sort overview by name. as doing by distance causes each char to have a different overview and its a pain to co-ordinate fire that way.

Sort by name, remove players etc as that could be costly.

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