Jita Park Speakers Corner

And you'd still be just as wrong. vOv

Yes, I'm sure we got the name for "acting like spoiled brats" for telling people like you the cold, hard truth.

You've no idea how fresh that is, coming from you.

I have always seen Null sec space as very much like the frontier space of England, during the Roman conquests or the wild west of the USA or maybe more appropriately like the colonization of Tasmania. You got bounties for killing off the Locals.
Null sec should be similar to these historical times in set up.
In a recent post Vricrolatious wrote:

These changes would allow Alliances to better defend their space during times of invasion, would be costly to larger Alliances that over extend their borders and limit force projection for Capital and Super Capital Ships.”[/quote]

I personally like this system as it would give small alliances a foot in the door in Null sec space. To follow the historical theme any nations capital was always the strongest most secure area part of this being the dispersal of troops, the other being the psychological component.

The only alteration I believe is to the manner in which systems are upgraded, I believe systems should be upgrade by continual use and downgraded by neglect, much like a slider bar. This will prevent areas becoming stagnant while still being held as sov space. If an area in a frontier area was ignored it would go back to lawlessness I think the same should hold for Null sec. I must admit I particularly like the fortress system idea.

The last point I would like to make is on the removal from local within Null sec. Local is a crutch, it is free intel. Its removal would give covert ships their abilities to be covert and would provide black ops ships with the ability to jump ships and themselves into space and immediately be visible.
Local is a service provided in empire by empires consisting of trillions of systems in Sov null there are only Alliances and there numbers while large as a player group are insignificant compared to an empire. Lets face reality 9000 characters would not fill a small country town while the total population of EvE with it’s 300,000+ accounts would be close to 900,000 the size of a small city. In NPC null the NPC corps would have little intrest in local so it should be removed.
I believe that full local should be available to Sov space in their capitals and fort systems(see above) but nowhere else. Null is unsafe space so if you want to do peaceful occupations like mining or missions having someone nearby with a gun is a must.
The current form of gate camping in null is little more than looking at local and seeing if it increases looking for a gate flash. Wait till they uncloak bubble and kill. This part would not change with the removal of local but the fact of when a larger force enters from another gate the gankers would not get the advanced warning to run. Null sec would again become lawless
Personally I would like to see the Dscan improved so you don’t have to spam the button to death, having it auto run and update every 5-10 seconds would be nice.

The argument has been used by some people that null without local would be the same as Wormhole space, it wouldn’t as confirmed by another Null sec resident from pandemic legion when asked about moving the Tech moons to wormhole space.

I believe the sarcasm was included for free.

The pure basis of the Sec security ratings are
Hi-sec 1.0-0.5 = Safest
Lo-Sec 0.4-0.1 = Dangerous pirates and the like abound.
Null sec NPC (0.0 - -0.5) = Very Dangerous with only NPC stations provided.
Null sec Sov space (-0.5 - -1.0) = Very dangerous BYO stations
Wormholes = Insanely Dangerous for use by only people best described as “Complete Nutters” with logistics abilities.

Any changes made should be done to these key values.

Null sec has long been altered to the whim of a few blocs this needs to change. More players need the ability to get fun and excitement out of Null sec and the ability to own space without fear of being destroyed before they even start or paying someone else for the right to live.
Are these ideas the right ones for Null sec. Frankly buggered if I know but they are better than letting it stagnate and better than the other ideas I have heard. The most common one from one of the blocs is that they pay for sov space, so the only changes they want are ones that will allow them an easier carebear life at the expense of the game.

The point is these are ideas, not just a denial of the need for any changes or any changes that might make Null harder for some while easier for others.

And as usual, you're completely ignoring the effect on the amount of effort this would entail for anyone trying to move a non-combat ship around, or to simply trying to rat or mine.

And there's also this covering the removal of local,

Unless there's a counter, then cloaked ships just became even more overpowered against ratters and miners.


The only thing that's removed from the equation is the fact that people see them, what it's been replaced with is the need to assume that there's always 1 or more cloaked ship in a system or on the way, and as such you've got to have 1 alt (or 1 person) sitting cloaked on grid with each gate and wormhole in system, with the sole purpose of staring at that gate to see who comes and who goes. And they still have to assume that at any point in time someone can log on from, say, the day before. And since they're cloaked, they can pick and choose the time of the engagement, and all it takes is for one guy to be inattentive or be left alone for a few seconds, and pop he goes.

This all works in wormholes because there are limits to how many entries there are to a system, and the rewards are massively higher than in nullsec, so for those who decide to go to wormholes, they've weighed the risk vs reward and gone "yes, I think I want me some of that". People in null, low and hisec haven't had to add this variable to the equation, and if they have to, a lot of them will move, which'll render a lot of what "remove local" people wants moot, because there'll be even fewer people to actually hunt.

"Remove local" proponents such as Caliph keeps claiming that my point about people leaving f.ex nullsec is false has himself stated, on the record, that he has weighed up the work he has to put in to stay in wormholes, and decided that it wasn't for him, and it wasn't even the huge amount of work his "final solution to the local problem" would entail; no, it was just the fact he would have to roll a market alt to buy/sell stuff, or the few hours every now and again he'd have to spend to keep a POS fuelled, bring in a bit of ammo etc etc etc.


What mechanics does this target have at his disposal to mitigate the risk?

Lets get rid of local and make everyone activly d-scan. Its not like we arn't all d-scanning already. right?

edit: in the intrests of clarity, yes i do quite often live in a WH.

Which rewards would a wartarget have to mitigate the added risk in hisec? And are you saying lowsec and nullsec should get a severe boost in rewards?

Citation needed.