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Have you forgotten what Eve online is about?
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Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Operations
#41 - 2012-05-27 19:50:32 UTC
pussnheels wrote:


But then somehow this idea came along that EVE is for PVP only and that anything that doesn't involes the risk of losing your ship doesn't belong here and people started to advocate the purging of all miners , all under the bannier of fighting bots
and so this continues till today , just blatant griefing for the lulz without any thoughts on the long term consequince this will have to CCP s income and further development of the game . Just have a look at the graphics on players online between now and last year


And both CCP and SONY both praised the Goons for all this. "They sure know how to bring the content". It's right there on tape.

After many months of hesitation, that was the singular thing that pushed me to unsub. And I never even lost a ship during 3 H'geddons.

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MaCoola
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2012-05-27 21:49:25 UTC
CCP should demonstrate some Roden-sized bawls (read "Templar One" for an idea of how huge Roden's cajones are) here they would make resources, missions, roids, moons, gas, etc, limited and this game would become everything that everybody who ever padded their KB with a rookie ship says it should be.

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Best idea ever. I had only thought of just making moons depletable but bro, you took it to the best level. I would sub 4 accounts and really play some eve!
Psychotic Monk
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2012-05-27 23:52:52 UTC
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:


After many months of hesitation, that was the singular thing that pushed me to unsub. And I never even lost a ship during 3 H'geddons.


We're still waiting for that to happen, by the way. Any day now.

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#44 - 2012-05-28 00:02:31 UTC
Psychotic Monk wrote:
Quartzlight Evenstar Icefluxor wrote:
After many months of hesitation, that was the singular thing that pushed me to unsub. And I never even lost a ship during 3 H'geddons.

We're still waiting for that to happen, by the way. Any day now.

The forums PvP scene is so engaging.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#45 - 2012-05-28 00:13:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
He who controls the spice controls the universe.

Kind of funny actually.
Not enough T2 PvP fighting (t2 ships destroyed) anymore to support the cost of upkeep of the null alliances that depended on Tech moons for there income.

So kill off as many Exhumers as possible to make up the difference.

So is the problem the big alliances that over extended themselves too far and now can't afford the bills.
Or is it that PvP'r refuse to fight.

Makes me wonder what will happen when CCP changes the moon mining mechanics.
Bankruptcy, and if so maybe CCP is holding off on changing the moon mining mechanics knowing that if they did it could collapse several 0.0 Alliances.

Makes you wonder a bit doesn't it.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#46 - 2012-05-28 00:16:25 UTC
Avid Bumhumper wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Its a shame most rescources aren't that limited... *cough* tech moons *cough*


So go fight over them and make them limited :)



Just out of curiousity, how would you go about doing that?

The Techholders have banded together half of nullsec to protect their moons.
They play risk free PVP due to the fact that no matter what they lose, it can be replaced instantly. They can put every capable pilot in a cap or supercap without even cutting into their isk flow.

So, how would you combat that...sell tons of plex and use real money? Mine? Rat? Do nerfed Incursions?

With your infinite wisdom, I'm sure you'll come up with something.....Roll

Oh, and Tech brings in so much ISK, that it's unlimited....so how does that work into your theory of "Limited resources"?


How did the current mob get their hands on all that space?
Price Check Aisle3
#47 - 2012-05-28 00:19:50 UTC
Simetraz wrote:
Makes me wonder what will happen when CCP changes the moon mining mechanics.
Bankruptcy, and if so maybe CCP is holding off on changing the moon mining mechanics knowing that if they did it could collapse several 0.0 Alliances.

Why would CCP care about whether an alliance went bankrupt? Conflict over resources drives the game forward and the loss of a few large entities only makes space for new ones.
  • Karl Hobb IATS
Baldrik DeLeNoir
Beltane Legion
#48 - 2012-05-28 00:31:56 UTC
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:
Eve has a story line?



It used to
Simetraz
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2012-05-28 00:40:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Simetraz
Price Check Aisle3 wrote:
Simetraz wrote:
Makes me wonder what will happen when CCP changes the moon mining mechanics.
Bankruptcy, and if so maybe CCP is holding off on changing the moon mining mechanics knowing that if they did it could collapse several 0.0 Alliances.

Why would CCP care about whether an alliance went bankrupt? Conflict over resources drives the game forward and the loss of a few large entities only makes space for new ones.



They shouldn't but what if they do in the name of keeping the economy stable ?
Like a bank in the RL does CCP consider certain Alliances to important (because they control to much of the economy) to allow them to fail.
And if so, is that a flaw in the design of EVE ?

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Price Check Aisle3
#50 - 2012-05-28 00:51:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Price Check Aisle3
Simetraz wrote:
They shouldn't but what if they do in the name of keeping the economy stable ?
Like a bank in the RL does CCP consider certain Alliances to important (because they control to much of the economy) to allow them to fail.
And if so, is that a flaw in the design of EVE ?

tbh I'm having a hard time figuring out why large alliances going bankrupt would ruin the EVE economy, or how economic haywire is in any way a flaw in EVE. The biggest threat to the economy is mudflation. Everything else is "player driven".
  • Karl Hobb IATS
Kiandoshia
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2012-05-28 01:07:32 UTC
Avid Bumhumper wrote:
Miilla wrote:
Darth Kilth wrote:
Its a shame most rescources aren't that limited... *cough* tech moons *cough*


So go fight over them and make them limited :)



Just out of curiousity, how would you go about doing that?

The Techholders have banded together half of nullsec to protect their moons.
They play risk free PVP due to the fact that no matter what they lose, it can be replaced instantly. They can put every capable pilot in a cap or supercap without even cutting into their isk flow.

So, how would you combat that...sell tons of plex and use real money? Mine? Rat? Do nerfed Incursions?

With your infinite wisdom, I'm sure you'll come up with something.....Roll

Oh, and Tech brings in so much ISK, that it's unlimited....so how does that work into your theory of "Limited resources"?


Correct me if I am wrong (I honestly have no idea and care little =p ) but doesn't the stuff from tech moons have to be bought to generate ISK?

Rally everyone else and boycott it =p
FeralShadow
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2012-05-28 01:32:29 UTC
Please for the love of god. I want depletable resources. It gives me a mammoth sized stiffy just thinking about the implications.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Snow Burst
Caldari State
#53 - 2012-05-28 02:26:00 UTC
Miilla wrote:
Quote:
Set more than 21,000 years in the future, the background story of Eve Online explains that humanity, having used up most of Earth's resources through centuries of explosive population growth, began colonizing the rest of the Milky Way. In turn, this expansion also led to competition and fighting over available resources as it did on Earth, but everything changed with the discovery of a natural wormhole leading to an unexplored galaxy named "New Eden". Dozens of colonies were founded, and a structure was built to stabilize the wormhole that bridged the intergalactic colonies with the rest of human civilization, a giant gateway bearing the name "EVE". However, when the natural wormhole unexpectedly collapsed, it destroyed the gate. Cut off from the rest of humanity and supplies from Earth, the colonies of New Eden were left starved and disconnected from one another; some died out entirely. Over the eons the descendants of the colonists managed to survive and rebuild their own societies, but the memories and knowledge of humanity's origins as well as their own from Earth and the Milky Way became lost. Five major distinct societies rose to prominence from the colonies, each growing into interstellar spaceflight-capable civilizations. The states based around these colonies make up the five major factions in Eve Online: the Amarr Empire, the Caldari State, the Gallente Federation, the Minmatar Republic and the Jove Directorate.


So... given the back story for Eve online, why are people crying about "FIGHTING OVER AVAILABLE SCARCE AND LIMITED RESOURCES"?

I don't get it... isn't this what Eve is about? Why on earth would you whine and cry about people fighting over scarce resources (ORE for example) by killing those mining it (just one example). This is what the game you purchased is about, did you not read the product description?

dude tht was ******* thousands of years ago u dnt just built a ******* empire in a couple of hundred years that backstory has nothing to do with new eden today

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