EVE New Citizens Q&A

As a new player, barely into my first months paying account I must say I am quite disappointed so far.. There is no organization to this game at all. Were started off in a corp which does no good because they never invite you on missions that you can actually join.

I've lost two catalysts so far in the last week. The first time was because I was fighting Serpentis while on an agents mission. Then I target one and shot at him. The warning box poped up so I closed it, unlocked from my target and then relocked since the serpentis was still shooting at me. Well I fired on him and BANG Concorde shows up and destroys me. I did NOT target a concorde. I made sure of it. Nevertheless, I lost my ship over that.

Secondly, a friend of mine went down to low sec with me in destroyers. Again we were only shooting serpentis. Then a pirate shows up and blasts us with weapons we have never seen or heard of. SO I lost my last catalyst and all my guns just because he wanted someone to shoot at instead of joining the factional warfare part of the game.

I am tired of working to make money to get a ship to fly when others with more money simply exchange plex and get another ship. I should paid more attention to the "Pay to win" ideology around this game before starting it.

I feel like I'm out 40 dollars for two accounts because it's been made quite clear if you go into low sec there are pirates everywhere looking to kill any new player he can find.

I had hoped this game was going to be clear cut, , race vs. race, military power vs. military power. Instead everyone is killing everyone and stealing from their mother on the side. It doesn't make any sense from a new guys perspective.

Therefore I'll likely return to the last war game I played where it is understood who the enemy is and theres a larger group more willing to work with players no matter what skillpoints they might have.

Hi there,
It's easy to get frustrated. What you have to understand is that EVE is what you make of it. As a brand new player you really don't belong in low sec. Mostly because you havn't developed the skills to survive there.

As for a corp, the NPC corps are useless except as a safe haven from getting war decced. Find a good PVE or PVP corp that likes to run missions and have them invite you along. Most corporations will take you on the high level missions and just assign you to salvaging loot and whatnot. I promise you will make far more than you will lose in those circumstances.

Nobody can make you resub. I've subsubbed and resubbed several times. There are lot of things about EVE that are very harsh but at the end of the day it is what you make of it and you won't find anything else out there quite like it.

Find yourself a good corporation and some decent friends and you will find it to be much more worth the money.

Also, don't go to low sec without buddies and some practice at the game.

As for the concord thing, yes you did shoot at the wrong thing. There is no other explanation.

I tend to agree with you for the most part. There is no downside to being a pirate, so anytime someone wants to drive new people out the game by messing with them, it is easy to do. Not sure why CCP likes catering to gankers and having new (and long time) players get mad and quit, but for some reason they do.

Everyone vs. Everyone -- EvE

Get it? ;)



It does make a lot of sense to a new guy who intends to kill everyone and steal from their mothers.

what is wrong with EVE ?
Edit ----------- . CCP keeps changing OUR game so you peeps can
understand sand box game play
I live in low ,not a pirate run my P.O.S .do my PI
Make good money ,became a fat carebear
Eve is about consequences.
Edit ----------
Slow down ! run some security 1/2 level mission , skill up , make some money !!
running level 4 is good easy money and Edit ----------- .
or unsub
I wanted to see what FW was about So I joined Thursday. been learning a lot
Have lost 7 ships and 1 pod . total loss 130 mill i have a budget of 500 mill set aside for loss.
Im new to PVP so it cost to learn those real skills .
EVE is for players with a plan you need to get one

Edited for inappropriate language.
ISD Tyrozan CCL

The game is getting easier and easier by the expansion. Lowsec has existed since day one. Hell, there weren't even gate guns in lowsec (or CONCORD in highsec) back at the beginning.

Not sure what you're doing as a new player telling people like gfl who has been playing 7 years what it has "evolved" into.

I go away for a year and when I come back people are still complaining about the same thing. People play EVE for exactly the reasons the OP complains about. There are no rules. That's the attraction for most of the players here. It is also the reason why the game sees so many subscribers return time and time again to it. There is no other game like it out there. If you want to play an entirely scripted linear game then go play SWTOR. This is the way EVE is. If you don't like it then no-one is forcing you to subscribe. There is no law that says the game must satisfy the criteria of each and every player on the server. THere is no shame in trying it and finding its not your thing. I suggest you unsub and try something else.

On the other hand you could try playing with a slightly different mindset. Don't fly anything you can't afford to replace at least five time over. That way it won't be such a burn when (and it is a question of when.....for everyone) you lose a ship. In time you will realise that losing a ship isn't that big a deal compared to being podded. When that happens you will come to appreciate clones. CCP has tried to desensitize new players to being "killed" by incorporating it into the tutorials (you HAVE played through those right?) but there still seems to be the fear of losing a ship.

If the OP wants to tough it out a little longer I suggest he reads up on the aggro mechanics, joins an experienced corp, maybe check out EVE University and above all take things a little less seriously. It's a game. Make of it what you will.

You shot at another player I'm guessing. If it pops up a warning, you should have rethought it and made sure you were targeting what you thought you were targeting.







That's low sec for you. Don't go there without expecting to lose everything.

Pretty sure the first part isn't true, at least not anymore - if it is, then the warning box literally says "CONCORD WILL DESTROY YOU - do you want to continue?" Also, the lowsec warning box states there's no CONCORD -- which is pretty clear.

His tutorials also explain what lowsec is.

Replace the word Pirate with carebear and that sentence starts to make sense. Being a pirate is costly and lots of consequences. The thing is, the consequences for pirates should be player driven not game mechanics driven. If you want pirates to have a harder life, go out and kill some pirates. The problem with carebears is they don't have consequences, so when something bad happens, they don't know how to deal with it other than throwing a fit of some sort. Which is why so many players just roll their eyes when they see carebear tears.

EVE is the game for self-motivated players wanting consequences and meaningful interaction. Players that dislike consequences, and the learning experience that ensues get frustrated with EVE. Really, the biggest problem is the number of people that would rather complain than take minor actions to improve their gameplay.

And this isn't just EVE. Yesterday I was at a wi-fi hotspot. over 20 people had their laptops open on the tables. So I sat down and tried to log-in. But there was no internet. So I asked a bunch of the others if they had internet, no, not one of the over 20 people had internet. So I got up and went to the phone stand and asked them to get the internet working again.

Those 20 people had been sitting there bitching about the lack of internet for over 30 mins before I arrived, and it only took a couple minutes to walk over to the stand. This is TYPICAL of how sheeplike most people are. Go to any MMO, there will be hundreds of player standing around crying, "LFG" "LFG" out of the hundreds of players bitching there are no groups, no one will actually get off their ass and start their own group.

Anyway, the things the OP could do to improve his game experience are legion, but by his post, it's obvious he'd rather do nothing but complain. So I've no sympathy. Join a good player corp, read up on lowsec before going there, a cursory read should have made it clear a dessy is a bad choice for a initial ls venture, actually read that warning pop-up that informs you that you are leaving your comfort zone.

Grab a hot pot without a oven mitt and yes it burns. Use a mitt next time, don't react by fleeing from stoves.