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Francisco Bizzaro
#21 - 2012-04-26 12:25:17 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
No I was simply stating that to show I am not game rich. I work very hard for anything I have.

That's too bad.

I have to admit, I actually don't work very hard for my ISK at all - I'm playing the game to have fun, after all.
Vyl Vit
#22 - 2012-04-26 13:39:29 UTC
There's a strongly-worded memo in the works.

Paradise is like where you are right now, only much, much better.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#23 - 2012-04-26 13:49:35 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
Before this gets trolled to high heaven, I believe I have a valid point when I say why is it that when CCP know full well they have made a huge error of judgement they become quiet about it on the forums and don't respond to topics made about said problem.

I used to love incursions, I was by no means one of these guys that farm them on a daily basis from morning until night. I will however stand up for the incursion community and say that what has happened is stupid and believe CCP to have made a monumental error of judgement with the changes that took place.

Its as if CCP made these changes without first testing them themselves, to check for balance.

You seem to have achieved with incursions what you have done with PI. It used to a viable source of income but now the bat has been swung so hard that Incursions if left as is, will be another wasted feature. I was personally making billions of isk per week making robotics but with the changes thats no longer possible and not worth the extra time and effort.

CCP waved goodbye to 2 paid accounts because of the most dumbass changes ever in PI.

Why do you not respond CCP to this and to the petition made and signed by many. You know you have done wrong and you know you have got to re balance this properly as well as speak about this in the open as promised months ago.

CCP please respond.

Additional : This is a serious topic but I knoe alot of you are going to make immature stupid comments like a child would. So feel free and be that child.


Legion fleet crybaby spotted.

Do yourself a favor and learn the new fleet comps and strats before coming to the forums and claiming this is a "huge nerf"

Furthermore... harder content being more lucrative than ez mod nco blitzing = working as intended.
adopt
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2012-04-26 15:00:51 UTC
What I find absolutely hilarious about the incursion changes is that it barely even affected the HQ sites. Even the randomize spawn and no triggers didn't affect them as you had to kill all ships in the site anyway (except for the TCRC and no-one likes TCRCs).

Hint, stop whining and do some HQs.
Jessie-A Tassik
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2012-05-27 18:12:59 UTC
Azitek wrote:
Perhaps if you provided an actual argument instead of "this is wrong because I'm not making fist-fulls of money". Maybe then we could have an actual conversation.


You just claimed to want a conversation!

Ha ha ha ha ha.

You want to troll and lie and be a punk, you do not in any way want a reasonable conversation.
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
#26 - 2012-05-27 19:49:42 UTC
TriadSte wrote:

You seem to have achieved with incursions what you have done with PI. It used to a viable source of income but now the bat has been swung so hard that Incursions if left as is, will be another wasted feature. I was personally making billions of isk per week making robotics but with the changes thats no longer possible and not worth the extra time and effort.

CCP waved goodbye to 2 paid accounts because of the most dumbass changes ever in PI.


Maybe making billions per week with a zero risk, bottable activity was not balanced and in line with other income venues?

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#27 - 2012-05-27 20:04:03 UTC
TriadSte wrote:


No I was simply stating that to show I am not game rich. I work very hard for anything I have.


I'm willing to bet I put in far more time and effort into my growing ship production lines than you ever have into incursions.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#28 - 2012-05-27 20:04:41 UTC
adopt wrote:

Hint, stop whining and do some HQs.


QFT.

To the OP, people like you give incursion runners a bad name. Shut the **** up.

Katrina Oniseki
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2012-05-27 20:06:05 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
I'm going to stamp my feet, and hold my breath, till CCP puts incursions and PI back the whay they were, so I can make fistfulls of ISK like before.X

Post deciphered.

"I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
sweetrock
#30 - 2012-05-27 20:12:19 UTC
LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!
sweetrock
#31 - 2012-05-27 20:13:02 UTC
However, CCP did totaly over nurf incursions and yeah....... uncool
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#32 - 2012-05-27 20:23:23 UTC
sweetrock wrote:
However, CCP did totaly over nurf incursions and yeah....... uncool


They really didn't.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#33 - 2012-05-27 20:26:28 UTC
Mortimer Civeri wrote:
TriadSte wrote:
I'm going to stamp my feet, and hold my breath, till CCP puts incursions and PI back the whay they were, so I can make fistfulls of ISK like before.X

Post deciphered.

Good decoding of that post.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Amantus
Drexciyan Sea Unit
#34 - 2012-05-27 20:49:06 UTC
incursions arent v good anymore
sweetrock
#35 - 2012-05-27 20:50:34 UTC
Amantus wrote:
incursions arent v good anymore



CCP did go over the top nurfing them. Pitty
Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
#36 - 2012-05-27 20:57:10 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
Before this gets trolled to high heaven, I believe I have a valid point when I say why is it that when CCP know full well they have made a huge error of judgement they become quiet about it on the forums and don't respond to topics made about said problem.

I used to love incursions, I was by no means one of these guys that farm them on a daily basis from morning until night. I will however stand up for the incursion community and say that what has happened is stupid and believe CCP to have made a monumental error of judgement with the changes that took place.

Its as if CCP made these changes without first testing them themselves, to check for balance.

You seem to have achieved with incursions what you have done with PI. It used to a viable source of income but now the bat has been swung so hard that Incursions if left as is, will be another wasted feature. I was personally making billions of isk per week making robotics but with the changes thats no longer possible and not worth the extra time and effort.

CCP waved goodbye to 2 paid accounts because of the most dumbass changes ever in PI.

Why do you not respond CCP to this and to the petition made and signed by many. You know you have done wrong and you know you have got to re balance this properly as well as speak about this in the open as promised months ago.

CCP please respond.

Additional : This is a serious topic but I knoe alot of you are going to make immature stupid comments like a child would. So feel free and be that child.

Actually if you look at examples like incarna, and the recent UI changes, CCP are very well aware when they have messed up and they respond very rapidly.

The simple truth is that a lot of people are happy about the incursion changes, and the ones that aren't are a small minority. Also, why are you making a new thread for this? One already exists.

[center]"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings"  -MXZF[/center]
Lord Zim
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2012-05-27 21:06:14 UTC
TriadSte wrote:
You seem to have achieved with incursions what you have done with PI.

What's wrong with PI?

Cyno's lit, bridge is up, but one pilot won't be jumping home.

RIP Vile Rat
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#38 - 2012-05-27 21:23:04 UTC
Lord Zim wrote:
TriadSte wrote:
You seem to have achieved with incursions what you have done with PI.

What's wrong with PI?


There is now a bit of risk involved for the best isk return.Shocked
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#39 - 2012-05-27 21:36:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Lipbite
Aside OP's obvious love for easy money instead of incursions themselves - he is correct about incursions becoming obsolete: there was only single shield fleet active (40 people) today during peak time + minuscule Russian VG shield fleet and maybe ISN and couple TDF armor fleets - making it less than 100 people total. During peak hours in Sunday.

At present pace of degradation we have a good chance to see publicly available incursions communities disappear in a couple of weeks. Could be nice to hear anything concrete about plans to re-animate incursions asap - like re-creating OTA vanguards, replacing logic of fleet splitting, making influence bar moving faster.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#40 - 2012-05-27 21:41:25 UTC
Lipbite wrote:
Aside OP's obvious love for easy money instead of incursions themselves - he is correct about incursions becoming obsolete: there was only single shield fleet active (40 people) today during peak time + minuscule Russian VG shield fleet and maybe ISN and couple TDF armor fleets - making it less than 100 people total. During peak hours in Sunday.

At present pace of degradation we have a good chance to see publicly available incursions communities disappear in a couple of weeks. Could be nice to hear anything concrete about plans to re-animate incursions asap - like re-creating OTA vanguards, replacing logic of fleet splitting, making influence bar moving faster.


It goes to show just how much the money grabbers care about the community. It was always about the gravy train and when that train got derailed they abandoned ship faster than an Italian captain. There are still people doing these in prives corp and alliance groups which is probably where you should be looking.